No gain 1st mn with Bib hanger . .

soon,

>the fact that gains may come easier after initial limiting factors are broken has been previously proven through the actual practice of PE and what other men have reported<

The reverse is also correct, as when the first limiting fibrils are lengthened they bring others into play. I think you are right, not everyone can look like Arnie, but that would be equivelant to like, 11 or 12”, 8” is equivelant to the guy that stands out and looks great at the beach (English beaches at least), which nearly all people could get to if they went for it.

Also, don’t forget about those hydroxyproline molecules, as they are used to make collagen from vit C. Or something. I have no idea what I’m on about but I’ve been waiting for a chance to slip that in somewhere.

:)
SS4

>>The reverse is also correct, as when the first limiting fibrils are lengthened they bring others into play. I think you are right, not everyone can look like Arnie, but that would be equivelant to like, 11 or 12”, 8” is equivelant to the guy that stands out and looks great at the beach (English beaches at least), which nearly all people could get to if they went for it. <<

Yeah, that much is true without a doubt. It could work either way. I was just making a point that it’s very possible that someone who had to wait quite some time to get their initial gains may not have to work nearly as hard for the gains that come afterwards. I think that sometimes collagen fibrils are broken instead of just stretched which would distribute the same force between fewer fibrils. It’s when they aren’t broken that the reverse happens, and gains become harder as more and more fibrils are taking the load. (IMO anyways … all theory, but it’s what seems logical to me)

>>Also, don’t forget about those hydroxyproline molecules, as they are used to make collagen from vit C. Or something. I have no idea what I’m on about but I’ve been waiting for a chance to slip that in somewhere. <<

:)

soon,

>I think that sometimes collagen fibrils are broken instead of just stretched which would distribute the same force between fewer fibrils. It’s when they aren’t broken that the reverse happens, and gains become harder as more and more fibrils are taking the load.<

Do you mean broken as in, severed, snapped? I don’t know much about that, but the outcome is the same whether that happens or not. Like, if the micro tears appear, that part of the fibril will take the stress right, like a small tear in an elastic band will make it snap at that point when stretched. So there will be a smaller area of fibrils taking the stress, hence fatigue and not being able to hang as much weight. If they did snap, the same thing would happen.

This is why I preach ADS and traction wraps, because if the tissues are allowed to retract (which they will within minutes of finishing your session), they will heal easier than if they were held apart, and you would have to break that limiting factor again next time.

Good stuff lad.
SS4

Excuse me for chiming in here;

To SS4Jelq:

You mean I should apply whatever passive PE I plan to use
ADS or traction wrap, right after I am done? What do you
recomend?

koooky

koo,

>You mean I should apply whatever passive PE I plan to use
ADS or traction wrap, right after I am done? What do you
recomend? <

Yeah, ASAP, whatever method you use, get it on quickly. If you use the theraband stretcher (a good one), you will have to unwrap, jelq for a minute or two and then re-wrap, this is no problem.

SS4