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More proof that long periods of hanging may be beneficial?

Originally Posted by marinera
I’m not the kind of guy who believes to the Bible. Maybe here lies the difference.

Maybe it’s time you do. Since you come across as an intelligent person, it won’t be hard for you to figure out how much truth there is in it.
And it is not just some book, but a very powerful one with plenty of messages for us to save our souls.

Originally Posted by marinera
My bad: Dustpan is a member of this forum also; his gains, as reported here, are 2.5” EL starting from 2005-07-16 to 2007-05-16

Dustpan gains (little bit more updated) as reported from PEgym are:

Starting stats 7/15/05 -FL 3.750”x FG 2.125”, (BPEL 5.250” x EG 3.750”)

Current Stats: 1/02/09-FL 7.062” x FG 5.875”, ( BPEL 8.187” x EG 6.000”)

Dustpans rendition of his routine doesn’t make sense to me.
First of all your speculating about it being his regime.
But in this he says that he leaves the hanger on while he goes through his stretches.
I don’t see where he has the hanger on prior to his stretches, and then after he has the hanger on he doesn’t do any stretches,so I’m confused.
I’d like to know how he does stretches with a hanger on anyway.:confused:

He does the same as I do using an anchor and SO hanging to get angles. I don’t change weights for multiple sessions but that’s probably a small issue. He does very short hanging intervals (10 min) I do 20min sets.

He did get about the same results as myself though.

I’d be curious about his days off and if he needed to take extra measures to overcome the strengthening from the healing process the body goes through.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

I’m speculating? I quoted the post where he speaks of his own routine. The post is dated 17-05-2007, day after he updated his stats here:

/pedata/data.php?username=Dustpan

at 7.75” BPEL.

If after that he changed his routine I don’t know, actually; but if what Zabora is saying is true, he has gained very little in last 2-3 years, just 1/4”.

Originally Posted by Monty:

I’d be curious about his days off and if he needed to take extra measures to overcome the strengthening from the healing process the body goes through.

Monty, this is what I found in one of his post at PEgym.

Originally Posted by Dustpan;423
remek,

With your stretrching exercise and a new one that I am doing along with it. I have gained 1/8” in flaccid length and 1/4” erect length. To my surprise it is working for me.
I do your internal stretching for 5 minutes then go into my hanging stretch for 5 minutes. This I do three times durring the day time, then go into my regular exercises in the evening.

Still waiting for Monty’s PE weights.



Originally Posted by Dustpan;1447
Remek,

Stretch segment,

1) 10 minutes of the simple manual stretches ( straight out, straight down, right and left stretches

2) 5 minutes of BTC

3) 5 minutes of aided inverted V stretch

4) 5 minutes of aided V stretch

5) 5 minutes of aided inverted V A-stretch

After the 30 minutes of stretches, I put on 8 Golf weights to keep a nice flaccid hang. Sometimes the ADS stays on up to 2-3 hours, the total weight is 4 lbs.

I think you should add a link to the PE pages where you got those posts, Zabora. Remek is a friend, but better respect rules. :)

Originally Posted by marinera
My bad: Dustpan is a member of this forum also; his gains, as reported here, are 2.5” EL starting from 2005-07-16 to 2007-05-16; I suppose this is the regimen he used to have his gains:

My Quest for big

There is also a thread with his pics, I gave it a brief look it seems beginning pics are lacking. Anyway, as a note, he was using the same device Horsedick and Dashdeming have spoken about, and also the same high-weigths approach.


Your the one who said “I suppose” That statement makes your sentence a speculation.

And if he only gained 1/4” in a long period of time, he was probably just maintaining. This guy knew how to gain so probably after he hit his goals he just slowed down.

Originally Posted by marinera
Remek is a friend, but better respect rules.


I’m sorry, what does that mean?


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by marinera

I think you should add a link to the PE pages where you got those posts, Zabora. Remek is a friend, but better respect rules. :)

For those who have difficulties to understand it, this means that when you are citing posts or articles from a site you have to add a link to the page. It is not a new rule.

Originally Posted by Monty:
Your the one who said “I suppose” That statement makes your sentence a speculation.

A speculation that is turning right, since there is nothing showing the adverse. So this guy, who’s gains you do believe, gained 2.5” EL in relatively short time doing a 5 on/2 off routine. How does it accord with the ‘never let it heal or it will be shorter’ theory? How gains of non-hangers do accords with this theory? How gains of bennett8, probably the biggest gains with photographic proofs, do accords with this theory?

People, you don’t need to do hanging all day, 365/365, living like a recluse and ruining your social life to elongate your penises.

I never lived like a recluse. Where do these concepts come from?
I’ve never said a guy gets shorter. That’s silly.

<How gains of non-hangers do accords with this theory? How gains of bennett8, probably the biggest gains with photographic proofs, do accords with this theory?>

Does anyone understand what the above says.

One thing is for sure if you want to pick out an extreme or unusual case, one can always be found. The majority I think will find logic pretty much prevails. This isn’t rocket science. It’s just common sense.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

You are taking things personally, Monty, I haven’t said that you lived like a recluse etc. etc..

What I’m saying is that the logic consequence of the ‘keep pulling or this will heal in a shortened state’ (Bib’ theory I think, if I’m wrong than that’s good) is that you have to do hanging/stretching the whole time, multiple hours daily, 7/7. That’s what Bib said he did and is always cited as a demonstration of the validity of that theory (a bit circular reasoning, I’d say).

I agree that you can find arbitrary cases that can support near any kind of assumption; I’d say Bib is one of this extreme cases. Most of people do have gains with the newbie routine : they are not unusual cases. This alone is an index that the ‘keep pulling or it will not elongate’ theory is wrong.

Argh! I give up. I disagree. My personal experience tells me what works. Argue all you want. That’s what you do best.

I’m not going to call what you think is ‘bull shit’ like you did me although it appears that way.

Frankly I’m surprised that Thunder allows that kind of language from a Moderator. So now I suppose you’ll want to hide behind other peoples posts and you’ll continue to con-volute facts with irrelevant disassociated material.

I think you just want me to get in the same position as Bib when he left here being chastised by Thunder for defending himself.

Frankly I don’t think your growing.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Marinera,

By the look of things, it suggests you are seriously confused about what Monty’s (mainly) and I been trying put across. For example you are saying one needs to hang all day, 365 days a year to follow the approach of staying ahead of the healing cycle to prevent plateau, by which is completely false.

You are also coming up with new theories, when attempting to refer to the approach being discussed here. First you refer to it as: ‘never let it heal or it will be shorter’ theory and Secondly as ‘keep pulling or it will not elongate’

I think it would be wise of you, to take time and understand what has actually been previously posted here about “staying ahead of the healing cycle to prevent plateau”. Before trying to refute it vigorously.

Originally Posted by Monty:
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I’m not going to call what you think is ‘bull shit’ like you did me although it appears that way.
……

I’m calling bullshit a theory. That’s the same than saying that the theory is not coherent, as it is my understanding.

Originally Posted by Monty:

I think you just want me to get in the same position as Bib when he left here being chastised by Thunder for defending himself.

I don’t know what you are speaking of here. I even wasn’t here when Bib was an active member. Maybe you do want to post a link to the posts you are referring to, assuming those things are pertinent with what we are saying?

Originally Posted by Monty:
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Frankly I don’t think your growing.

What do you mean? Growing what?

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