More Hanging Sets or Adding Extender
OK, first things first, this is probably the wrong section of the forum for this question but it is the only one I can post in being that I am a new member (in posts, not duration), but if a mod moves it into the proper section for me that would be cool as I would probably get more replies and perhaps more useful/well-informed replies (not that the members looking at this part of the forum are not well-informed or useful!).
So my question first, and then I will include some pertinent information about myself that should probably factor into responses, for those of you who want to read it, that is.
I am currently hanging and recently purchased Monkeybar’s VacExtender 4 mainly to use as an ADS, but I splurged and got the extender too, just in case. My PE tool chest is getting very complete these days (just need a Bathmate, but I have a badass homemade water pump in the works), but I digress. I want to know if the members here believe I should add more hanging sets to my routine to fill my extra time at night, or fill the time wearing the VacExtender. I would, of course, add in hanging sets or extender time slowly and incrementally but which approach do you readers think would yield better results?
It seems to me more hanging would always produce better results per unit time, but maybe there is something I’m missing or forgetting to factor in.
OK, so about me:
I have posted here once before like a few years ago, but I failed to really get rolling on the PE thing at that time, and since then I have done a week of it here and there, but never really got consistent. All manual stuff I might add, jelqing and stretching mainly. I was bodybuilding then powerlifting competitively at the time and just didn’t have a lot of time. But all that changed about two or three months ago when I realized I have a lot more free time now and I got this overwhelming desire to start the PE again and take it seriously. And I bought a pump. Investing the money really played a big part I think. Now buying and building new and better equipment is on my mind a lot.
Starting stats: I was not born small, and I have read posts on here where cats criticized guys for doing PE when they already had a bigger than average cock, but I want to do it so go ahead and call me greedy, insecure, impractical, or self-obsessed - you might just be right, but I’m doing it anyhow! :) So to begin with I was: 7.75 BPEL, 4.875 MSEG, 5.25 BEG, those numbers are in inches, and for those of you who like fractions that is 7 3/4 BPEL, 4 7/8 MSEG, and 5 1/4 BEG. Kinda skinny for my length, but decent size I suppose. If I quoted different sizes in my original post those years ago I was wrong, the numbers here are the result of multiple measurements all done according to the specifications I have seen on this forum.
My journey so far: I started out pumping for about a month with an air pump with a gauge and pistol-grip hand-pump along with stretches, V-stretches, A-stretches and jelqs all done before pumping with some (inconsistent) JAI piss-pulls throughout the day at work. I wanted to gain length before I worked on girth and for some reason I thought a pump combined with a good manual routine was the way to go. When I measured after one month I was very, very wrong. After one month of pumping at lowish pressure (-4 to -6 bars Hg) and slowly building up session length to two sessions of 15 minutes, along with the manual exercises I listed earlier and some pump stretches (pulling on the tube, stretching it to the sides and up and down, etc.), I measured in at 5.25 (5 1/4)” MSEG and 5.75 (5 3/4)” BEG with no gain in length (maybe 1/16” but I don’t think so). I think my base grew a bit more because it got WAY MORE expansion in the tube since I didn’t use one of those pump sleeves or a condom. I was getting thicker and I had always heard the (very unscientific) argument that it is easier to stretch a thinner noodle/rubber band. I bought a bib hanger immediately after reading more about what is best for length gains. One off-topic note on pumping: the girth gains I got have been MOSTLY permanent - there was a little shrinkage, but I am measuring at nearly the same girth. I guess what I’m saying is, in the big debate between the hardcore/experienced pumpers and the “fluid-retention” community, I now believe (based on admittedly very little experience) that pumping can yield permanent results - I was far too inconsistent on my jelqing for the first couple weeks for the growth to have come from anything else. When I achieve my desired length and start working on girth I will definitely continue pumping - hopefully with the water pump I am acquiring the parts for currently - along with some clamping.
So anyhow, I started hanging and have really got the hang (no pun intended) of wrapping, minimizing twisting, using the BTC angle, managing/”riding” fatigue, hanger tightness and placement (that was HUGELY important), and my skin has stretched enough that the stress is now firmly on the internal structures of the penis and the ligs. It feels very productive and I have gained between 1/4” to 3/8” in length in the two-ish (maybe a week less) months I’ve been going at it so far. In short, loving it! I hang between 6 and 9 20-min. Sets a day always with one of those sets right after waking and one right before bed, the rest are right after work in the afternoon. Split sets make sense to me. And Bib said they work and that should be reason enough! :) I also do between 160-200 50-60% erection-level jelqs right after my long afternoon hanging session and will be slowly and incrementally increasing that number over time in the future. VERY slowly, in fact, because I think the jelqs are mainly for circulation and EQ in this routine - not a primary driving force behind growth.
I just bought the VacExtender/ADS as I explained earlier, and will be wearing it as an ADS during work on weekdays and anytime I am not hanging/extending on weekends. Except while sleeping. I looked at ANS, but I kept running into the word “tissue necrosis,” what an awful sounding phrase! I will mainly be using the ADS to “heal extended,” minimize connective tissue toughening, and all that jazz and perhaps get a little more in the length gains department (though I’m not counting on this) while I’m working and otherwise wasting time that could be better spent finding ever-more-inventive ways to pull on my cock. So now I have this extender too and about two or three hours on weekdays and a bunch of time most weekends that is free and private - except for my girlfriend, but she knows and, aside from a few disturbed looks (I mean can you blame her? Hanging weights from your dick is weird), doesn’t care. So the question again: more hanging sets or throw on the VacExtender (or regular extender) during my free time? Or more ADS is an option too, but that just seems less productive.
Thanks for any replies I get, and sorry I wrote a book for this one! Figured I needed to include that information for informed responses.