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I’m new here and PE and not looking to start a big argument but how does anyone have slippage with the male hanger2? Unless you are really thin it should not be an issue. Even then I imagine you can bring in the nuts on the bottom and make it super tight. I do his recommend wrap amount of 9” of sweat shirt and 9” of ace sport wrap. I’m 5” thick and I can’t tighten it completely. I also get zero slippage. Even if I walk around no slip. I’m sure the BIB is a great product but to say male hanger is vastly inferior because it doesn’t have gel pads doesn’t make sense. It’s the same otherwise.

Originally Posted by Jeffafa

I’m new here and PE and not looking to start a big argument but how does anyone have slippage with the male hanger2? Unless you are really thin it should not be an issue. Even then I imagine you can bring in the nuts on the bottom and make it super tight. I do his recommend wrap amount of 9” of sweat shirt and 9” of ace sport wrap. I’m 5” thick and I can’t tighten it completely. I also get zero slippage. Even if I walk around no slip. I’m sure the BIB is a great product but to say male hanger is vastly inferior because it doesn’t have gel pads doesn’t make sense. It’s the same otherwise.

He’s basing it on his own opinion of both hangers. Have you used a bib?

I got the bib starter after wearing it for a few sessions i sold my male hanger because the bib was way more comfortable and never slips off, with the male hanger i didn’t had any grip so it always slips off when it got more then 15 pounds


Start: BPEL 7.0 - EG 5.1 (20Feb16)

Now: BPEL 7.8 - EG 5.4 (20Jun17)

Goal: BPEL 8.0 - EG 5.7 (20Feb18)

Originally Posted by cockaloca

I got the bib starter after wearing it for a few sessions i sold my male hanger because the bib was way more comfortable and never slips off, with the male hanger i didn’t had any grip so it always slips off when it got more then 15 pounds

I wondered if that would happen after looking at it. Thanks for this review

I wasn’t talking about the starter. The hardcore and MH1 have channels that supposedly help blood flow through and help form “shoulders”. The starter has them too and then has a gel overlay. In fact the hardcore came about when members were purposefully taking off the gel. I don’t know about blood flow or “shoulders” (though I can see that point) but it doesn’t slip. The platform on the first generation male hanger caused me to twist no matter settings or wrap. Again I’ve owned all 4, the hardcore wins hands down for me with the starter in 2nd, then mh1 and lastly and vastly inferior mh2.

I’m currently 5.75 MSEG and 2.25 wide.


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG

04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... Restart PE in late 10/2013... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG

Originally Posted by longerstretch
I wasn’t talking about the starter. The hardcore and MH1 have channels that supposedly help blood flow through and help form “shoulders”. The starter has them too and then has a gel overlay. In fact the hardcore came about when members were purposefully taking off the gel. I don’t know about blood flow or “shoulders” (though I can see that point) but it doesn’t slip. The platform on the first generation male hanger caused me to twist no matter settings or wrap. Again I’ve owned all 4, the hardcore wins hands down for me with the starter in 2nd, then mh1 and lastly and vastly inferior mh2.

I’m currently 5.75 MSEG and 2.25 wide.


Actually, the HC was the original design but the testers here asked Bib for some kind of padding because it was too intense, so he added the gel. Later on, he sold the HC with a strong word of caution to be experienced and conditioned before using the HC. I don’t see the issue personally because I started with my own DIY hanger and then went to the HC and never had an issue with the intensity.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

I think we are both right as this was just before my time. After his popular pvc build he was talked into creating the ones used for his company. The initial testers wanted more padding and the original was born and sold. Later some users here took off the padding and preferred it that way so bib released the HC


My MaxVac Setup Longerstretch's Golf Weight and HTW setup My Log

Starting Size: circa 2003: 5 BPEL x 5.0 MSEG August 2007: 6 2/3 BPEL x 5.5 MSEG

04/22/08: 7.5 BPEL x 5.6 MSEG... On and Off again for a while... Restart PE in late 10/2013... 11/25/13: 7.75 BPEL x 5.75 MSEG

Originally Posted by longerstretch
I think we are both right as this was just before my time. After his popular pvc build he was talked into creating the ones used for his company. The initial testers wanted more padding and the original was born and sold. Later some users here took off the padding and preferred it that way so bib released the HC


Yeah it was way before my time here when this went down, I just know the story from Bigger relaying it to me.

Apparently the padded Bib is configured differently from the HC to compensate for the padding.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

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