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LOT for BTC Stretch?

I have a medium LOT (8) and I was wondering would doing a fair bit of BTC stretching be ok for me? Thanks Thuder’s.

Bib’s LOT theory was for hangers, men who hang weights from their penises. It attempted to predict which direction of hanging would be more beneficial based on an erroneous assumption about penile anatomy. It was tested extensively and shown not to be predictive of anything. Besides, it was for hangers.

The LOT theory can safely be ignored by all new members. It won’t help you get gains with jelqing or stretching or even with hanging. Doing your stretches in all directions would seem to be a better option rather than limiting yourself to one.

Hanging is just a more scientific way of pulling on your penis instead of using your hand where you don’t know how hard you are pulling. Every time is the same and can be repeated. The BTC stretch I think works best for most that’s just my 2 cents.


Current stats march 2008= Nbel 6.75 Bpel 7.5 Eg 5.5

Goal by the end of next year Nbel 8.5 Eg 6.5

Bib still preaches that theory.. and I think it makes sense personally.

Look.. when you’re trying to deform penile tissues you should seperate them and deform them individually or else waste a lot of time and use too much force stretching in a manner where they’ll all be stretched at once.

Let’s see how I can translate.. OK here: Yanking on a ponytail, you’d probably need a lot more force to pull the whole thing out than you’d need to pull hairs one by one.

When trying to deform the tunica, the inner penis, which is where a lot of real gains come from, it would help if the ligaments were out of the way. This would be like.. grabbing half the ponytail. It’d be easier to pull out, right? Half the ponytail is now not resisting your pull.

It’s recommended to stretch ligs first at an angle that will place most of the stress on them (BTC, SD, UTL) because you can loosen them fairly easily, and then once you go to do tunica work (SO, OTS, RSDT), they won’t help resist the force (weight) you use (hang).

It’s the same thing when hanging at the side angles. If you put all the stress on one side, it’ll deform faster and easier than doing 3 sets at the straight angle to feel the same fatigue.

In the end you’re going to have to deform all of it. It’s just a matter of how effective the work you do is. We’re pulling the whole ponytail off here. But if we pull it off in little pieces, we’ll get a bald head in no time!

P.S. I also have an 8 LOT and am BTC hanging at the moment. I think it’s recommended that we use BTC until our LOT actually changes to 7/6. That will mean that the ligs are nice and loose and long, and that when we hang OTS we’ll feel the burn baby.

~L


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Very good, informative post lost. :)

Bib knows hanging, there’s no doubt about that, and what you say makes sense.

What didn’t make sense is the “loss of tugback” business in the LOT theory and how contracting the BC muscle (doing a kegel) supposedly determines where your ligaments “attach.” If you have any knowledge of penile anatomy you’ll understand why there couldn’t be any correlation. The clock angle thing with kegels tells you nothing about the ligaments and that’s why doing those “measurements” for your LOT number won’t predict anything about your success at hanging.

Originally Posted by westla90069

Bib knows hanging, there’s no doubt about that, and what you say makes sense.

What didn’t make sense is the “loss of tugback” business in the LOT theory and how contracting the BC muscle (doing a kegel) supposedly determines where your ligaments “attach.” If you have any knowledge of penile anatomy you’ll understand why there couldn’t be any correlation. The clock angle thing with kegels tells you nothing about the ligaments and that’s why doing those “measurements” for your LOT number won’t predict anything about your success at hanging.

I understand what you’re saying, lot is controversial. However, I don’t think it determines where your ligaments ‘attach’. I always thought it determined how tightly they held you penis up against the pubic bone and whether one should hang at the lower angles first in order to eliminate them from the equation as Lostracco had stated.


Then (4.5 nbpel x 4.75 mseg)

Now (5.625 nbpel, x 5.25 mseg)

Hey guys. If you have any inkling of Thunders history, the guys who are against LOT are so staunchly, that they have rebuttles for each sub-point.

It’s not even a real discussion.

I personally believe in LOT or something close to it. As far as how much, theoretically or in reality can be “pulled out” from it, it depends.

staunchly?

Originally Posted by marinera
Maybe you would like to read these:

LOT Simulator

Testing LOT Theory


Instead of referring to threads that ‘discuss’ LOT theory (as you have suggested and I’ve read a long time ago) I instead went to the source and re-read Bib’s post. He used the terms “shorter, tighter, higher and longer, looser, lower” in reference to the ligaments.

Originally Posted by optimalss
Hey guys. If you have any inkling of Thunders history, the guys who are against LOT are so staunchly, that they have rebuttles for each sub-point.

It’s not even a real discussion.

I personally believe in LOT or something close to it. As far as how much, theoretically or in reality can be “pulled out” from it, it depends.


I agree. Just because some have beat it to death in multiple threads and posted computer models doesn’t mean it should be discarded.


Then (4.5 nbpel x 4.75 mseg)

Now (5.625 nbpel, x 5.25 mseg)

Dick Builder,

I wasn’t referring to you about reading, but to countdwon 2 - if he has an analytic mind, he’ll like those threads.

Originally Posted by marinera
Dick Builder,

I wasn’t referring to you about reading, but to countdwon 2 - if he has an analytic mind, he’ll like those threads.


Good point. They are a good read.


Then (4.5 nbpel x 4.75 mseg)

Now (5.625 nbpel, x 5.25 mseg)

Rather than repeat myself I’ll refer you to this thread where I explain my opposition to the LOT theory (with pictures :) ).

Originally Posted by westla90069
What didn’t make sense is the “loss of tugback” business in the LOT theory and how contracting the BC muscle (doing a kegel) supposedly determines where your ligaments “attach.” If you have any knowledge of penile anatomy you’ll understand why there couldn’t be any correlation. The clock angle thing with kegels tells you nothing about the

Bib never uses the LOT test alone anymore. He uses the mirror test and palpitation test to see if they all correlate or not.

Do you guys disagree with mirror test & palpitation test?—or using all three together? (To determine the best angles to hang)
(I know you old-school guys are very informed, so I value your opinion on this)

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