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Likely site for length gains

If you’ve been following my Mystery Object thread, you may have seen this picture.

The top view in this picture shows something very interesting and possibly useful. It shows the corpora cavernosa inside the body, as they pass under the pubic symphysis and then further inside the body to their attachment points to bone. The view is essentially looking straight up from between the legs. The front of the body is to the right in this view.

What’s really striking about this picture is how much the corpora cavernosa narrow as they pass under and behind the pubic symphysis. It’s not just an artifact of the picture; I’ve confirmed this with other views. Essentially, it’s very clear that the CCs are just a whole lot skinnier at this point than anywhere else.

Now, if we apply the maxim, “it’s easier to stretch a thin rubber band than a fat one,” it is immediately evident that this narrow location may be a great potential site for length gains.

High angle hanging ought to hit it. Low angle hanging probably hits it as well, once the suspensory ligs are stretched enough to allow stress to reach this point.


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Last edited by ModestoMan : 07-26-2005 at .

Hmmm. I see this has stimulated a great discussion. Is it that it’s:

1) Old news

2) Impossible to see what I’m talking about, or

3) Related to PE, which isn’t as interesting as tits.


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Interesting point, Modesto!

On the other hand: making a thin piece of tissue even thinner by overstretching it,
may cause it to break/rip just because it is thinner.

Just a thought.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Hmmm. I see this has stimulated a great discussion. Is it that it’s:
3) Related to PE, which isn’t as interesting as tits.


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Sorry… I’ve got something on my mind!

You have an advantage that you can see all different views and understand how you got the pictures you post. For me, even though the pictures are excellent, it is a little hard to distinguish exactly what the pictures show.

Instead of pre-PE and post-PE pictures, we shuold all have pre-PE & post-PE scans instead!


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Flip: I think the narrow part is a pretty tough piece of tissue. I wouldn’t worry about snapping it without a lot of painful warning.

GRX: I agree. Tits are good!

If it helps to visualize the spot I’m looking at, pretend you’re a bicycle seat looking up at the rider’s crotch. That’s the view. The “slice” is actually a little farther inside the body, just above the corpus spongiosum, which is why that structure can’t be seen.


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ModestoMan, interesting observation. I’m unclear on how far in this thinning is — if it’s close to the penis base, it could explain the baseball bat, which I’m seeing somewhat at a EL gain of 1”.


Start: 6.3 x 5.2 (Feb '05)

Now: 7.9 x 5.65 (gain 1.6 x 0.45) - SFL 8.6"

Goal: 8.5 x 6.0 - Currently trying: jelqing, fulcrum hanging/bending. My data - Progress log

Just trying to make sure I understand, you can feel this area when you do BTB jelqing, right?


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ModestoMan,
In my experience, when unable to gather a erection level to jelq due to work I resorted to the area(s) you mention. I have a large fat pad and sought out areas of interest with my hand. To pull on the ligs more directly I dug in and placed a uli grip as far into the base as it would go and pulled with the ligaments under my grip. This method works well as long as the balls are in a hanging mode and not clinging to the shaft, this usually was done late in the day.

Another method that Eroset spoke of that I think is very highly underrated is BTB jelqing. It seemed like common sense for me to stimulate and tax this area, after all it was penis and never seemed like a waste of time. I was also able to carefully pull on this area but I couldn’t get the force I was getting with the “uli-pulling”. Although, I hung many hours; any angle other than SD and sporadic BTC would murder my soul, so I can’t comment on that.

When doing these uli-pulls I sometimes wondered why I didn’t read about guys here doing them. The force I could create with a proper grip and erection level was immense. It is very common for me to have an erection and pull it down and receive many lig pops, I can repeat this any time I get an erection.

Sorry for rambling. If I can clear you up on anything let me know.

Originally Posted by larslaukanen

ModestoMan, interesting observation. I’m unclear on how far in this thinning is — if it’s close to the penis base, it could explain the baseball bat, which I’m seeing somewhat at a EL gain of 1”.

Hey, Lars:

In the lower view of the picture I linked to above, you can see the underside of the pubic symphysis. It’s pretty clear to me that the narrowing of the CCs occurs toward the very rear of the pubic symphysis and mostly behind it. I’d estimate this as about mid-way between the balls and the anus. This is way too far inside to explain baseball bat effect, which is entirely external.

Baseball bat is more commonly caused by jelqing at a low erection levels or jelqing more intensely near the glans than the base.


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Originally Posted by Eroset

Just trying to make sure I understand, you can feel this area when you do BTB jelqing, right?

Yes, exactly.


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Originally Posted by Mr. Nine
ModestoMan,
In my experience, when unable to gather a erection level to jelq due to work I resorted to the area(s) you mention. I have a large fat pad and sought out areas of interest with my hand. To pull on the ligs more directly I dug in and placed a uli grip as far into the base as it would go and pulled with the ligaments under my grip. This method works well as long as the balls are in a hanging mode and not clinging to the shaft, this usually was done late in the day.

Another method that Eroset spoke of that I think is very highly underrated is BTB jelqing. It seemed like common sense for me to stimulate and tax this area, after all it was penis and never seemed like a waste of time. I was also able to carefully pull on this area but I couldn’t get the force I was getting with the “uli-pulling”. Although, I hung many hours; any angle other than SD and sporadic BTC would murder my soul, so I can’t comment on that.

When doing these uli-pulls I sometimes wondered why I didn’t read about guys here doing them. The force I could create with a proper grip and erection level was immense. It is very common for me to have an erection and pull it down and receive many lig pops, I can repeat this any time I get an erection.

Sorry for rambling. If I can clear you up on anything let me know.

ULI pulls seem to be a great exercise. I think DLD was working on a device for doing exactly this. I know this because he described it in a thread that also discussed the “Testing LOT Theory” post I had worked up for this forum (He or somebody else on his forum had copied and pasted my entire post, but that’s a different story).

For somebody like you who has really stretched the shit out of your ligs, you can probably hit this BTB area using just about any angle. For most guys, I suspect the suspensory ligament (esp. the little discussed subpubic arcuate ligament at the very base of the pubic symphysis) will shield the BTB area from stress except when hanging at high angles.

I’ve been thinking a great deal about why SD and BTC hanging give a lot of guys great erect gains (but not me, sadly :( ). Simply releasing the suspensory ligs won’t create new meat; it’ll just cause what you already have to hang lower. But this narrow BTB area might be where the real gains occur.

Of course, you’ll need to stretch the hell out of your ligs to create enough slack to stretch this area more than 1 cm or so. And that’s exactly why I think low angle hanging is so productive for many guys.

EDIT: SD and BTC stretching probably won’t hit this area very effectively, contrary to what I suggested above, even for guys with long ligs. SO or slightly up is probably best, assuming the ligs aren’t in the way.


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Last edited by ModestoMan : 07-27-2005 at .

I suspect it may be something mentioned in Gray’s anatomy

“Just before it meets its fellow it presents a slight enlargement, named by Kobelt the bulb of the corpus cavernosum penis. Beyond this point the crus undergoes a constriction and merges into the corpus cavernosum proper, which retains a uniform diameter to its anterior end.”


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Help my poor knowledge of anatomy here, please. I’m looking at the illustrations, and I’m unclear. This area your talking about, where the CCs narrow, and are “accessible” from a BTB Jelq standpoint, is it covered with the tunica as well? Does the tunica go that far back?


"It's ALL in your head. You just have no idea how big your head is." - Lon Milo DuQuette "The mind's role in P.E. is more important than the hand that touches the penis." - Mr. Nine Just ignore the crazy old man in his tinfoil-lined pyramid hat, smelling of EVO and muttering Ohhmmm my penis growwwws. He's not always to be taken literally.

Interesting post, Modesto:

My BTB area certainly seems lesser in diameter than the extant base. If it does taper inside the BTB confinement, then it should be EASY to pull out, since one cannot grip a tapering shape and hold onto it—neither should the body be able to hold onto it. I agree that OTS hanging should be effective. What is nuts in my case is that my penis tapers toward the head. If I do pull out smaller diameter inner penis, I’ll have a canoe taper—widest in the middle.

Originally Posted by Eroset
Help my poor knowledge of anatomy here, please. I’m looking at the illustrations, and I’m unclear. This area your talking about, where the CCs narrow, and are “accessible” from a BTB Jelq standpoint, is it covered with the tunica as well? Does the tunica go that far back?

Eros,

I think the answer is “sort of.” The CCs split into two crura inside the body just under the back edge of the pubic symphysis. The tunica, which prior to the split includes an inner layer around each corpora cavernosum separately and an outer layer around both corpus cavernosa together, after the split includes both inner and outer layers around each crus (singular or crura) separately.

Once the CC separates into crura, each crus individually has an inner circumferential layer and an outer longitudinal layer of collagen fibers.

At least I think so. I’ve never seen this spelled out explicitly, but I think it’s intuitively likely, given the structure, the split, and the fact that each crus needs to resist both circumferential stress and longitudinal stress. As to the density of fibers or their uniformity around the circumference, one can only guess. My guess is that there are probably few longitudinal layers on the inner surfaces of the crura (facing each other) and lower surface (facing down), which reflects the fact that the CCs have virtually no longitudinal fibers at the septum and at the junction between the CCs and the corpus spongiosum.


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