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If you don't already hang as close to the base as possible, START

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If you don't already hang as close to the base as possible, START

***** This is for people mainly targeting the Ligs *****
Don’t know if it’s been covered before but I did my own research on this and I hanged two sets today.
In the first, the hanger was close to the glans and the second, as close to the base as possible.
The first set, all I got was mostly a tunica type stretch but I couldn’t really feel it in the ligs.
The second, however, I could feel the ligs getting sore, 5 minutes in. By the end of it I was sore as hell.

Observations
Less distance between hanger and ligs means more stretch.
Don’t need to constantly readjust due to slight pain from pressure from blood accumulation at the glans.

Try it, especially with SD hanging (which I swear by) mainly because the hanger would rest between your butt cheeks in
BTC and reduce the stress.


(dd/mm/yyyy) 10/05/2013 BPEL 15cm (5.9 inches) ...22/11/2013 BPEL 19.5cm (7.68 inches)... 29/11/2014 BPEL 20.6cm (8.11 inches)

Short Term: 8 BPEL Long term: 8 NBPEL Long Long Term: 9 NBPEL

Hanging progress.......... Difficult takes a day, impossible takes a week.

Are you sure you are not just pinching something being closer to the base and that is the difference you are feeling?

Whether you think you are specifically targeting the ligs or not, if your ligs are attached to your shaft then I can’t see how it matters where along the shaft you are attached, the force at the base should be the same. Maybe I am looking at it wrong, but to me, that is like saying using a shorter rope will pull harder than the same amount of weight attached to a longer rope.

I personally think that penis growth happens along the shaft and not by stretching out ligs, so reducing the amount of stress along the entire shaft by only pulling the lower portion of it will reduce the potential gain… in my opinion. ;)


Keep an open mind and a closed wallet... unless it\'s open to making a donation!

If I were to attach a hanger close to the base, I would not be able to stretch anything but skin.

Originally Posted by cantlook
Are you sure you are not just pinching something being closer to the base and that is the difference you are feeling?

hmm could be. Although for me personally whenever I get whatever feeling it is. I see gains a few days after. Minimal I’ll admit but as time goes by, they do add up. Just my experience though.


(dd/mm/yyyy) 10/05/2013 BPEL 15cm (5.9 inches) ...22/11/2013 BPEL 19.5cm (7.68 inches)... 29/11/2014 BPEL 20.6cm (8.11 inches)

Short Term: 8 BPEL Long term: 8 NBPEL Long Long Term: 9 NBPEL

Hanging progress.......... Difficult takes a day, impossible takes a week.

Sounds to me like the best way to develop a hairy shaft, which I take it is not real popular.

When hanging for the purpose of gaining length, I position the hanger as close to my body as possible with the intent being to stretch ligs; which it does very well. I don’t target tunica encased CC growth or CS growth with hanging; these are targeted with jelqs, stretches and a homemade stretcher.

When hanging both for the purpose of gaining length and for the purpose of strengthening the Pubococcygeus muscle…done in order to gain further adeptness in Seminal Kung Fu…I hang SD and BTC, as well as well as in the “swami” position. It should be noted that it appears quite unambiguously to me that pursuit of the latter has an impeding effect on the former (nothing lost, but also nothing gained). As I’m far more interested in SKF skill than further length, my efforts with respect to length gains, when I do turn to that again…I’m focused on girth gains at present…will be focused exclusively on the CC and CS. Maybe my girth efforts (with Nice Vice) will present a length gain too…we’ll see.

Anyhoo, I did want to contribute that my experience, as well as I’m able to discern what it has demonstrated, has indicated that there is value in the pursuit of basal hanger attachment for length gains as aggolb has posited. As always, doesn’t mean that it will for you.

But if it does, yes, you’ll have to include some new terrain to the tweezing regimen :)

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith

When hanging for the purpose of gaining length

Is there another purpose for hanging? Are you saying there’s some way to hang for girth, but not length?

Originally Posted by Tom Hubbard

Is there another purpose for hanging? Are you saying there’s some way to hang for girth, but not length?

Originally Posted by xenolith

When hanging…for the purpose of strengthening the Pubococcygeus muscle…done in order to gain further adeptness in Seminal Kung Fu…

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I haven’t tried hanging with Bib, but hanging as close s possible to the body with an AFB hanger, no wrapping and serious weights will likely cause girth increase (not just athe base).

Hanging to stretch the ligs to achieve longer EL isn’t going to work, the penis is tied to your body from the inside, ligs are not what keeps your penis attached to your body, they serve only to preserve a useful erection angle.

Originally Posted by marinera
I haven’t tried hanging with Bib, but hanging as close s possible to the body with an AFB hanger, no wrapping and serious weights will likely cause girth increase (not just athe base).

Hanging to stretch the ligs to achieve longer EL isn’t going to work, the penis is tied to your body from the inside, ligs are not what keeps your penis attached to your body, they serve only to preserve a useful erection angle.


I think that you would serve the membership better to refer to what your experience indicates rather than make statements of absolutes. As is well understood by most here, experiences vary; to wit, as I’ve indicated above, my experience indicates that stretching ligs does result in longer EL…as I also indicated, because it worked for me doesn’t mean it will work for others. I should have added however, that my experience also indicates that anatomical geometrical constraints coupled with force application constraints effectively limit the degree to which lig stretching EL gains are possible. Again, just referring to my experience, what your penis does, I cannot say.

It’s not possible for me to decouple the lig work from the CC/CS as they were done contemporaneously, however, I would estimate that lig stretching accounts for 0.5”, maybe 0.75” of my 2” of EL gains…again, not saying that this will happen for anyone else.

BTW, my erection angle is unchanged…one last time, not saying that this will be the case for anyone else.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Nahhh, I’ll let my statement remain absolute. The penis is tied to your body and stretching ligs serves pretty much nothing for EL, don’t be fooled guys.

While I’ll agree that stretching the ligs does not contribute to EL gains, We do know that the lengthening procedure which is done surgically cuts the suspensory ligaments allowing more of the penis to come forward out the body. While you are not increasing your actual EL, you are allowing more of what you already have to be utilized outside the body. So by stretching the ligs an actual increase in EL would not occur, but by allowing more of the “inner penis” to come out would be seen as EL gains in the eye of the beholder.

Therefore I’ll give it a go.


Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.

New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal

Originally Posted by marinera
…don’t be fooled guys.


Precisely…particularly by people telling you that you can’t do something…you very well may.

Originally Posted by Tom Hubbard
I realized I could accomplish the impossible!


Precisely.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by jb560
While I’ll agree that stretching the ligs does not contribute to EL gains, We do know that the lengthening procedure which is done surgically cuts the suspensory ligaments allowing more of the penis to come forward out the body. While you are not increasing your actual EL, you are allowing more of what you already have to be utilized outside the body. So by stretching the ligs an actual increase in EL would not occur, but by allowing more of the “inner penis” to come out would be seen as EL gains in the eye of the beholder.

Therefore I’ll give it a go.

I’m not sure I have understood what you are saying bro, anyway, if this EL gain is ‘apparent’, it is reached through a change in erection angle, the sole thing cutting ligs can achieve; there isn’t any objective large report of the outcomes of this kind of technique, according to the few indipendent doctors who have looked at the data it can give no more than 1/4” in EL on average; it will give gains in flaccid length because the penis hangs lower - curiously, it seems this is what many patients are mostly interested in.

Penis lengthening surgery is considered experimental at the best, if not openly considered pretty much a fraud, by all the vaguely serious medical associations that have publicly spoken about.

This piece is just an example:

Penile Enlargement surgery - fact or fiction?
Yoram Vardi* and Lior Lowenstein

…….Another technique involves release
of the suspensory ligament, a very controversial
procedure in which the suspensory ligament of
the penis is detached from the symphisis pubis
and both corpora are advanced by traction of
the penis using various methodologies, such as
vacuum devices, weights, or specialized trac-
tion devices. It is important to emphasize that
the release of the suspensory ligament does
not itself cause length gain.

……
Unfortunately no reliable data are available
regarding the criteria for success or complica-
tion rates of these techniques. A few reports indi-
cate that release of the suspensory ligament can
decrease the angle of elevation of the erect penis.7

A few reports indicate that release of the suspensory ligament can
decrease the angle of elevation of the erect penis.
Paradoxical penile shortening can also occur, as
a result of spontaneous reattachment of the liga-
ment to the pubis bone.
[size =-1]

Y Vardi is Director
and L Lowenstein a
Fellow at the Neuro-
Urology and Male
Sexual Dysfunction
Unit at Rambam
Medical Center.
The authors are also
based at the Technion
Faculty of Medicine
in Haifa, Israel.[/size]”

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1038/ncpuro0120

I will get the opportunity to add here some anatomy infos :
crus of penis

Type: Term
Definitions:
1. the posterior, tapering portion of the corpus cavernosum penis that diverges from its contralateral partner to be attached to the ischiopubic ramus.”

http://www.medilexicon.com/medicald…ary.php?t=21596

See also the pics.

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Last edited by marinera : 12-06-2013 at .

Originally Posted by marinera
I’m not sure I have understood what you are saying bro

No worries, hopefully something works.


Then 01/15/08 EBPL: 6.25 EG 5.10 Now 10/05/09 EBPL 7.75 EG 5.25 Girth work for 103 days.

New Short Term Goal: EBPL 8.0 EG 5.5 Lifetime goal 9x6.5 PE log and journal

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