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Hanging & clamping

Originally Posted by train spot
Great post LG…This thread should have more active talkative users writing, aren’t people hanging anymore?
Some should really adress hanging and clamping as a routine, saiyan22 was getting great results this way.

There are a variety of ways to produce PE gains….
I’ve advocated a three pronged approach with hand stretching being the foundation. As you progress you can add weight hanging and pumping. Effective PE training that produces a multi-inch gain is not isolated to one exercise. Advanced PE trainers can add clamping to their routines. Done correctly it will produce significant girth and vascular development.

We will soon be adding a Clamp Kit to our accessory lineup. It will consist of three Girth Bands and two clamps. As soon as we can make time to create a “how to” video they will be available…. stay tuned!

Originally Posted by train spot

c3ifador, I read your thread, congrats on your gains those ligaments look crazy, I want to ask you and Nixxx as you both have knowleadge of PE, what is your opinion on the TGC theory?

I don’t know what it is, but now that you said you made me curious and I will read about, thanks for it.

Originally Posted by train spot

Could we be able to reach our bpfsl with bpel just from girth routines and manual stretching without any serious hanging/stretching?

From my understanding BPFSL>BPEL is an indicator of future length gains. I don’t believe that girth routines may give you a satisfactory length gains because it is fundamentally targeting the horizontal part of the tunica. There are many men here that did clamp focusing on girth and got good size in it, but also got some millimeters in length.

Fulcrum stretches like A and V stretches target the tunica in it vertical part, thus giving length gains, I believe that is the way for you to go. If you feel that normal stretches did no good to you, maybe now is the time for some tunica stretch. That is what I am doing, in 3 weeks I have measured a increase of 0,20~0,25 mm in BPEL. Sometimes things that not work now may on the future give you a positive response.


started April 2017 BPEL 16,7cm x 13,3cm EG Last measurement BPEL 20 cm x 14,8 cm EG

My progress, thoughts and pictures

Rotated Penis? Unbalanced Ligaments? Lack of Gains through Manual Routine?

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WHAT TO DO RIGHT NOW: Find Your Limit!
1) Measure your BPFSL and your BPEL. Find out how much greater your BPFSL is than your BPEL. If it’s around .5” or more, it indicates that the smooth muscle is your limit. If it’s around .25” or less, it indicates that your tunica is probably your limit.

It’s a disproven theory, i wouldn’t bother with flawed theories, but focus on controlled microdamage and consistence.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I’ll just say some gained 2 inches here with A stretches ALONE. I assume constant heat and significant force was used.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

It was Bib’s theory (or people on his forum) that 6 LOT people can’t gain hanging. This is of course not true but this post brings to question if we with 6 LOT should hang SO rather than SD. saiyan22 - 6:00 LOT no gains in hanging?


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I seem to still be gaining from SD and BTC, as Bib stated that a low LOT like 6-9 o’clock should also start with these angles. Sayian22 is an inspiration to me, I can’t wait to start out with the outer/upper angles…I’m sure I’ll gain like crazy too as I’ve given it a try and I felt it going pretty well, but I only wanted to concentrate on SD/BTC to see what I can gain from the ligs…

Bundled hanging seemed to really help sayian22 with his girth work too, he was gaining almost symetrically on a length/girth ratio from what I could see in his thread with pictures.

I was talking this with MulejuiceMcQuaid from Pegym, he has a 6 LOT as well, been hanging for 2 years SD only and maybe 20-30 degrees higher than SD as he stated, gained 1,5” in bpel and 0,5” in girth with no specific girth work except jelqing ocassionaly.


Last edited by train spot : 11-13-2018 at .

I didn’t say i believe that, it was just an interesting point. It didn’t affect my plan to hang SD for at least 6 months before moving to upper angles. Most guys have LOT around 6 and most gain from hanging SD. I am at 3kg right now and my glans can stand around 2h of vacuum, after that it starts to hurt quite bad no matter how good the wrapping so i incorporated manual stretches after hanging, namely A stretches and SO with heating before each little session.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I just started hanging, i used a little less vacuum today to see if i can go beyond 2h session, i did 3+ h sessions before with 3+ kg with no pain, i strongly suspect i been using too much vacuum, but you gotta develop a feeling for it, 5-10% less vacuum than needed and it’s gona slip, 5-10% more and it will cause discomfort/pain sooner than needed. I’m hanging between SD and BTC btw, you could call it birthpose. :)


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

vacuum pressure

Originally Posted by Nixxx
I just started hanging, i used a little less vacuum today to see if i can go beyond 2h session, i did 3+ h sessions before with 3+ kg with no pain, i strongly suspect i been using too much vacuum, but you gotta develop a feeling for it, 5-10% less vacuum than needed and it’s gona slip, 5-10% more and it will cause discomfort/pain sooner than needed. I’m hanging between SD and BTC btw, you could call it birthpose. :)

Ideally you shouldn’t ever need more than 12 Hg’s of vacuum pressure for any amount of weight you decide to use with our system / chamber. I can’t speak for other vacuum based systems. Maintaining integrity of the vacuum seal is predicated on the quality of the silicon sleeve and how it seals with your penis skin. If you have an inferior silicon sleeve you will experience vacuum leaks. I’ve seen some very poor quality sleeves coming from China. They have tiny air bubbles in them and once a pin hole is exposed the vacuum will leak out. Most guys try to compensate by using more vacuum pressure.
If you’re using 3 Kg’s (6.6 lbs.) you shouldn’t need more than 5 - 8 Hg’s of vacuum pressure.

Extended hang times beyond 1 hour with that much weight is fine, provided you have properly conditioned yourself. However if you can do two hours with 3 Kg you should consider going up to the 4 - 5 Kg level and reducing the time down to a hour. You should be incrementally adding weight to your hang. Always reduce hang time when going up in weight and then gradually increasing the time until you reach a full hour. Two one hour sessions per day is optimal.

Originally Posted by LGHanger
Ideally you shouldn’t ever need more than 12 Hg’s of vacuum pressure for any amount of weight you decide to use with our system / chamber. I can’t speak for other vacuum based systems. Maintaining integrity of the vacuum seal is predicated on the quality of the silicon sleeve and how it seals with your penis skin. If you have an inferior silicon sleeve you will experience vacuum leaks. I’ve seen some very poor quality sleeves coming from China. They have tiny air bubbles in them and once a pin hole is exposed the vacuum will leak out. Most guys try to compensate by using more vacuum pressure.
If you’re using 3 Kg’s (6.6 lbs.) you shouldn’t need more than 5 - 8 Hg’s of vacuum pressure.

Extended hang times beyond 1 hour with that much weight is fine, provided you have properly conditioned yourself. However if you can do two hours with 3 Kg you should consider going up to the 4 - 5 Kg level and reducing the time down to a hour. You should be incrementally adding weight to your hang. Always reduce hang time when going up in weight and then gradually increasing the time until you reach a full hour. Two one hour sessions per day is optimal.

Tnx for advice. Silicon sleeve is fine. Another guy here using same 20$ chinese hanger did 10kg with it, more than i ever wanna use. I’ll try to have 2 1h sets with bigger weight and stretches / ADS inbetween.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

I’m back at 3,5kg and surprisingly it feels more comfy than 3kg, eh.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Of course 3.5kg was comfy for a short 10-15min only. I did few hours of stretches SO now back to hanging lower weight.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Hey Nixxx, don’t you consider still doing manual stretches SO/Upwards counterproductive for a hanging SD/BTC routine? Sort of like a shotgun aprroach?

Also, since you are hanging for a longer time than I am and still hang at a max 3-3,5kg, how often should weight like 0,5kg be added? I read every 1/2 weeks add this amount, but I don’t do that. When did you add weights?

I am still hanging 4kg for a month maybe, thinking of adding another 0,5kg

Originally Posted by train spot
Hey Nixxx, don’t you consider still doing manual stretches SO/Upwards counterproductive for a hanging SD/BTC routine? Sort of like a shotgun aprroach?

Not the least. I believe in attack from various angles. I like SO or “tension stretch” but looking through my screenshot folder yesterday i seen this post Tidio - Are there any proofs that rest days are good for PEing? again and decided i will do A stretch only.

Originally Posted by train spot
Also, since you are hanging for a longer time than I am and still hang at a max 3-3,5kg, how often should weight like 0,5kg be added? I read every 1/2 weeks add this amount, but I don’t do that. When did you add weights?
I am still hanging 4kg for a month maybe, thinking of adding another 0,5kg

Since your unit is big already, MAYBE you need bigger weights to induce enough microdamage. I would try going 0.5 a week until you reach fatigue, that is, it becomes uncomfortable/painful. Then lower and ride in that area.


3/18 NBPEL 6 EG 4.25

Current NBPEL 6 EG 5.1

Adding weight

Originally Posted by Nixxx
Tnx for advice. Silicon sleeve is fine. Another guy here using same 20$ chinese hanger did 10kg with it, more than i ever wanna use. I’ll try to have 2 1h sets with bigger weight and stretches / ADS inbetween.

At some point you’ll have to go heavier. Lighter weights with longer hang times will provide some gains …. but you will plateau.
We are preparing to do a comparison video review of several different vacuum hangers (most from China). It will be illuminating! Similar to comparing a $150 pair of Nike running shoes to the Walmart $12 dollar pair. The quality, performance, price and customer service will all be part of the comparison equation.

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