No offense, but you really need to know how much weight you are hanging. Using weight plates is the smartest thing to do. Also, I have to tell you that if you don’t get a Bib hanger while they are available (Bib said that his boys will stop making them after this summer), you will probably regret it if you continue on with PE. When I started, the Bib was not being produced. I made and used the AFBII while constantly wanting a Bib. Since I now have a Bib and have hung with both hangers, the difference is huge. The Bib is far more comfortable and is very sturdy and well-made. The $120 was a good investment.
Jelktoid :trash: More meat for the money!