Hang Without Wrap?

I am using one of the device which only sucks my penis shaft (head) after that I hang 5lbs for 2 hours with out any sets. Is this ok? Or do I need to wrap it and hang weights?

Pictures of a BIB starter with padding removed.

Several people over the years have asked if it’s possible to make xeno’s mods using a BIB starter by removing the padding, including myself. Well I had an old starter circa 2013 lying around unused, and the gel padding gets slimey as the years go by, so I cut it all out.

As shown, there are some structural cavities and weaknesses in the BIB starter’s “gel skeleton” whereas the BIB HC is more solid. A couple points on the fingers might need to be sanded down as well. Overall though, I think it could be modified successfully to xeno’s recommendations.

No, they’re super far apart.. See photo. See the front bolt? It’s got a stop-nut interior to the BIB to keep the front portion of the BIB from closing when I torque down the top wingnut (and I torque it down HARD).it keeps the front of the BIB open and blood flowing well through the CS.that’s how the meditation and napping can happen. Rear bolt is gone, I just use a zip-tie and let the rear compression do whatever it wants to in response to tightening of the top wingnut. The ONLY point of compression is at the top wingnut bolt of the BIB, although there is some distributed compression that falls off in magnitude away from that point.
Xeno

Yes, that’s exactly what I did; frankly, I could almost do without any connection at the rear position at all.almost. The purpose of the zip-tie connection at the rear position is to provide a minimum of compression at that position so as to allow for maximum blood flow through the CC and the lower portions of the CSs. So, you’re right, it’s not able to fully grip.that’s the intent! Virtually ALL of the gripping takes place at the top bolt; it’s important that it’s understood that I’ve hung with over 100 lbs many times with this exact hanger configured exactly as shown in the photos below.. Hopefully they help. Point is, that top connection alone is perfectly capable of providing adequate closure of the BIB and a firm attachment to the penis; thereby freeing up the lower portion of the BIB to only loosely grip the penis, thus allowing for excellent blood flow in all three blood borne oxygen dependent chambers and therefore comfortable, long hanging sessions.

Sitting; BTC, SD and my personal favorite, “the swami”.BTC with legs crossed on the desk in front of me. Pressure is focused at 11 o’clock and 1 o’clock. No blood buildup in glans.. That happens as a result of compression of the CS.. As I’ve tried very hard to make clear, the configuration that I use (see underside of BIB photo) doesn’t compress the CS at all, it ONLY compresses the top of the CCs. I can hang indefinitely with this configuration.60 -90 minutes is typical. Like I said, I meditate while hanging, sometimes nap too.

Xeno

Fellas, there’s a physical reality that needs to be understood: blood is trapped in the glans when the cavernosum spongiosum (CS) is constricted because it is the CS that supplies delivery and removal, in other words, exchange, of blood to the glans. It is only when exchange of blood into and out of the glans is restricted that pain is experienced in the glans. With the BIB, the lower bolts serve to constrict the CS when their respective wingnuts are tightened; when tightened in accordance with common practice, restriction of blood exchange to the glans occurs, and therefore pain in the glans occurs.

The /\ configuration that I use and recommend imposes sufficiently little compression on the CS that no blood becomes trapped in the glans.. There is free exchange of blood into and out of the glans and comfortable hanging can literally be done indefinitely.

Squeezing the blood out of the glans prior to constricting the CS in accordance with common BIB application practice is a poor compromise to allowing free exchange of blood to the glans with /\ configuration that I’ve presented herein.

Regarding wrap: it’s totally unnecessary with the /\ configuration, totally irrespective of penis size, because all of the attachment occurs at only approximately 1 square inch of the dorsal portion of the penis (about 0.5” per side adjacent to the dorsal longitudinal axis of the penis). Everyone has 1 square inch of penile surface area.

This is clearly an(other) instance of leading horses to water..

Xeno

What you need to do, as described, perhaps inadequately, elsewhere in this thread, is file the top teeth of your BIB to allow tighter closure of the top bolt.. And this is key: with the BIB spread open at the bottom. Take another look at the two photos of my BIB closed around the toilet paper roll that I posted elsewhere in this thread, you’ll see the kind of closure that you want to modify your BIB to achieve. You’ll find that you need to reduce the length and angles of the sides of the back teetch much more than the front teeth to achieve the desired configuration. When you get it modified in that way, the BIB will close much tighter at the top than in stock form and will allow for sufficient compression over a very small area (~1 square inch) which, of course, any post-pubescent penis has to offer. I’ve hung >100lbs. With ONLY the top bolt tightened.. You really don’t need the bottom ones for anything other than keeping the BIB from flopping around while tightening the top bolt.

Xeno

By the way, I realized that I may not have mentioned that the front lower bolt on my modified BIB is used.. It keeps the front bottom spread open.so, it’s not used to tighten the BIB, it’s used to keep the front of it spread apart! The photos posted elsewhere in this thread show this well.

Anyhoo, didn’t want to continue to leave that little tidbit out of the discussion.

Xeno

Hi Mr. Schlong,

There’s a very good discussion of the modifications to the BIB (Starter or Hardcore) starting at the top of this page: Finding xeno: a penis tale (p. 22)

I think that I can identify one bit of misunderstanding.. At least I think so: the front bottom bolt should be backed out, making the opening at the distal (front) part of the BIB very wide at the bottom.. One needs to bend the lower bottom bolt, and may need to bend the top bolt or wallow out the receiving channel.. But these are well discussed.. I think.on the page that I linked to. Please don’t hesitate to ask further questions if that doesn’t clear it up, it’s worth the little bit of effort to make the BIB even better.

Xeno

I made Xeno’s mod today and it seems superior to the factory config, but I still can’t hang wrapless despite grinding down the spikes all the way even more than Xeno did.. So it leaves me thinking this is not for all sizes, or Xeno hung from the base of the shaft, and not from behind the head. All in all it was worth it, but I wish I could do wrapless

Anybody have success with this?

Huge gains right there manko, however I still use my bib starter with padding and ace bandage as wrap. I hang 1/2” to 1” below head.

The modified configuration is for hanging from the base, yes. I gained somewhere around 0.75 to 1.0” using this hanger setup and all of it was hanging as close to the base as possible. Xenolith also wrote that he did his hanging from the base also, except for his “bow and arrow stretch” which was a lighter weight fulcrum hang at a higher angle for a different purpose (BC and IC muscle exercises).

The modification uses a pinch grip rather than the more clamp oriented grip from traditional wrapped Bib hanging. The hanger is more or less resting on dorsal shaft, although it digs in a bit thanks to gravity. It requires that the gravity vector (net force vector more precisely) from the hanger’s grip point is going through the shaft - if the force is going along the axis of the shaft, the hanger will just slip off. And the pinch grip also requires the formation of “shoulders” meaning it needs some tissue to bunch up ahead of it for something to rest on. So between those two things, it’s very difficult to use this configuration to hang near the glans.

Vacuum hangers work better for hanging from the upper shaft, and for upward angles.