I sent off stuff to two guys who responded. I found more than I knew I had. I have enough to give away a vacuum hanger with two hour glass sleeves to four guys. My only request is that they go to guys who do not have a vacuum hanger already. New hour glass sleeves can be purchased from www.thegrip.com. after these wear out. Just to show that I am not trying to sell anything, I am giving it all away free, and I don’t want even postage. Have a good time but don’t go over 1500 hrs of hanging time at any wt. I will send these by mail to the first 4 guys who respond and say that they do not already have a vacuum hanger.