It sounds like Ben is a real dick for potentially using his connections to get you banned. I guess I got irate about this discussion because so many people hate on the MH for moral reasons and they’ve never used it, nor do they know Bib or SWM personally.
And, unlike you, they’ve only used the Bib and never the MH. For me, the MH works just fine - grips heavy weights perfectly and is as comfortable as on should expect when clamping a vice on their manhood.
I guess I just don’t over analyze the potential drawbacks and benefits between the bib and various versions of the MH. If it works, it works - far better to spend time actually hanging than cutting back on meat rations to save up for a Bib.
A lot of men hold off, I’m sure, because they can’t design a good hanger, yet can’t afford the Bib, and won’t give the MH a try cause of all the hate it gets around here.
Hopeful I think you missed the point some of us are trying to make about Ben. And no I’m no bib fanboy, I hate his lack of pics, videos and the fact that he’s never proven his claims of 4 inches from hanging. However he made those claims before selling his hangers so who knows but him and his wife. The thing with Ben is what he did to get people to buy his products, and his connections to mos and what they do god forbid you don’t use his hanger. Just look at pe_pe, banned for what? Speaking his mind….not fucking cool. We’re all here for the same reason…we’ll most of us….there are a few trolls that like to stir the pot that don’t post routines, stats or really anything pe related, but I’ll leave that for another day. Anyway like I said in another post I was in sales and his tactics are what I don’t respect. Sorry I just can’t buy something based on my own feelings for how a person does business. If you lie a little you’ll lie a lot. I couldn’t care less if he ripped off bib, we need competition in this market. It’s the other stuff I can’t nor do I have to accept.