This is exactly what I said, I wasn’t hating on Ben I was hating on his slime ball way of doing business, along with MOS’s. So not really sure who your speaking of when you call some of us bib users haters. Matter of fact I said in this and other post where I knock bib for not having video or even pictures detailing how to use his hanger. I, like many others learn hands on and visually not by reading a “how to” and I’ve also said bib will even give instructions on how to build one. And in many post I tell future hangers to build one before buying to make sure you can endure the dedication to hanging. No hate here for guys trying to turn a buck I just don’t like the way some guys go about it.
Fact is, there are a lot of definite haters saying they won’t buy because Ben is a copycat and a slime ball. I get that he’s made a bunch of feeble attempts at blackhat tactics, and he’s aligned with the product pushers on MOS.
My thing is that a lot of the things we buy are created and marketed by underhanded and corrupt suck heads. Most who knew Steve Jobs respected the hell out of him but secretly hated and even feared him for the things he’d done.
I guess it’s like capernicus1 said, we all have our reasons. I want the best quality I can get, at the best price possible. If I want trustworthy, non sales oriented advice, I already know where to come. :-)