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bbs,

>ok for example, this morning, in my very first set of BTC 5 lbs. I was still pretty sore…

1.)Is this total fatigue? Howcan that be if I haven’t even had to lower the weight yet?<

No, if you can still comfortably hang five lbs., no clock watching, keep going BTC.

BIB

I’m kinda bouncing back in forth between these two threads.

My balls are now the limiting factor in the BTC position. Either bisected or when I put them to the side they get mashed into my perineum or ass crack by the weight of the hanger and weight and become sore, tender.

Once they are long enough to go past my ass completely, I see this as a non-issue. Basically my dick is outgrowing my balls or at least out-stretching it.

I tried your suggestion from the ball wrapping thread, but they still get discomfort.

BTW, thera only is perfect.


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BIB u still out there?

OK BIB, I got some more feedback (data) for you and some more questions…I’m trying to be as thorough as possible…..

On Sunday I hung 9 sets in the morning, and 5 at night. (5lbs BTC.)During the sets I was still trying yo troubleshoot and get the optimal fit. I was getting quite discouraged. I was even contemplating quitting. It seems as if I could not get the thing to work for me.

Only on the evening sets did I start to feel it in the ligs again, whereas before I only felt it in the skin and shaft. What I figured out was I need to place the hanger as close to the head as possible, without touching it. I know you’ve said, and others have said it, but until you figure it out for yourself, it really doesn’t sink in.

Today, I hung 12 sets BTC with 5 lbs again. I got very good lig pull in the beginning, then in the middle sets I could feel the lig taut, but not really like it was working, no fatigue feeling

1.)Is this common for it to go and come back (the feeling) assuming I’m placing it right?

1a.) How long do you think it takes to reach total fatigue, how long did it take you? Should a person worry about reaching the full BTC position 1st or reach total fatigue and having to drop the weight 1st? Which one do you think will occur 1st?

1b.) How do you know when skin is the limiting factor?

How do you know when ligs are the limiting factor?

You said you alternated between hanging for both, what type of regimen did you use? Equal time for both?

1c.) Assuming you have attached correctly, are there any “rules” like if you’re not working the ligs, you’re working skin?
Then the last sets were both burning the ligs and shaft like crazy. Some of them I stopped early due to this and swollen head.

2.)Oddly, some of my best sets were when I had a swollen head. Is this common? I even tightened the bottom gap. I also find that toward the end of a set or the end of a day, the head becomes inflated quicker, loses temp. etc. It always goes away the second I detach but it is noticeable. (Side note, my head always seems a little cooler than my shaft) No more slipping, but still head swells, and .I assume its almost impossible to have a soft head the entire time?

Oh yea, I’m getting a hellacious stretch. MY penis goes between my balls ( no more ball problems really, did some manual stretching) and then some of the shaft lies between my crack, and the hanger rests on the edge of my but. It takes a few sets to reach this level of stretch, but since the (basically, the hanger moves around alot in my ass crack, since it is not a flat surface )hanger has not completely left the butt yet, it twists alot. I have to adjust multiple times during the day and sets.

3.) I assume it will be like this until my shaft is completely BTC with the hanger free hanging on the bottom?

I am getting tons of stretch marks on my base, my flaccids are getting thicker and “flopping around” more so I assume I am doing something. Even though I am “black”, I’m very light-skinned. My pubic area has always been the darkest part on my body. However, the base is like a reddish pink, and it slowly gets slightly darker toward the head in like 3 stages. There is a definite “ring ” around the base shaft that’s becoming more noticeable.

Like I said before some sets I feel nothing , than some I feel crazy skin burn and lig pull.

4.) DO I want to feel it all in the ligs or both, because sometimes I feel both? I know you said you should be relaxed but sometimes I get sweaty and flustered as the pull/skin stretch increase, the last few sets feels like my unit is about to rip in half due to the stretch/pull ( I felt both ligs and skin), but then a few hours later tonight, not really that sore, I think I was approaching total fatigue…..What do you think? BTW, should total fatigue only be felt in ligs, or all over?

I tried to give you as much info as possible, let me know if you need more. I see this thread is rated high, so I’m glad others are getting something from this as well..

Now I have some general questions that I haven’t seen addressed elsewhere…..

5.) Is their a correlation between the max weights one uses in their “career” to the amount of length gained?

6.) I know you talked about the migrating ball sack before, but did you ever have a problem with migrating shaft hair?

7.) Did you stretch skin in each position as well, or did you just focus on ligs in various positions?

8.) When switching to a brand new position, what poundage should you start at?

9.)How much of a role and what is that role that the position of the blue straps play in making adjustments?

BIB, as always I thank you for your patience and help. As you can see, the hanger is getting lots of use.


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

bbs,

Wow, it has been a while since a post gave me a headache. That’s ok, I like a challenge.

First, settle down and quit stressing over this. You must understand, the only consistancy in PE is the inconsistancy. Things change, month to month, week to week, day to day, and even during the day. You have to learn to adapt and learn what your body is telling you. It is a process. You are doing fine.

>On Sunday I hung 9 sets in the morning, and 5 at night. (5lbs BTC.)During the sets I was still trying yo troubleshoot and get the optimal fit. I was getting quite discouraged. I was even contemplating quitting. It seems as if I could not get the thing to work for me.<

You hung fourteen sets and it seemed you could not get the thing to work? Come on, everything is fine.

>Only on the evening sets did I start to feel it in the ligs again, whereas before I only felt it in the skin and shaft.<

Not unusual.

> What I figured out was I need to place the hanger as close to the head as possible, without touching it. I know you’ve said, and others have said it, but until you figure it out for yourself, it really doesn’t sink in.<

Right

>Today, I hung 12 sets BTC with 5 lbs again. I got very good lig pull in the beginning, then in the middle sets I could feel the lig taut, but not really like it was working, no fatigue feeling

1.)Is this common for it to go and come back (the feeling) assuming I’m placing it right?<

Yes, this is not unusual. Just check what you are doing, what structures you are stressing, and go with it. Other than skin, it is tough to know exactly what limiting factors you are stressing at any particular time, and what amount of stress is needed to overcome that limiting factor. If there is no give, no breaking of bonds, you might not feel sore at that time.

>1a.) How long do you think it takes to reach total fatigue, how long did it take you?<

For me, this varied completely. There were many days that I did not reach fatigue. Then some days, I could not hang my previous max weight. Go slow and never try to force the fatigued feeling. Relax and let it happen if it is going to happen.

>Should a person worry about reaching the full BTC position 1st or reach total fatigue and having to drop the weight 1st? Which one do you think will occur 1st?<

This is really two seperate questions, and I cannot see how they are related. Usually, reaching the full BTC position is a matter of skin stretch. Reaching total fatigue and having to drop the weight is a matter of the ligs and tunica suffereing microtears.

Getting the skin stretched to eventually allow for full stress on the ligs would be the normal route. But depending on the angle of BTC, you might not need as much skin to still see significant stress on the ligs.

>1b.) How do you know when skin is the limiting factor?<

When it is taking a majority or significant portion of the stress. When it is very tight while hanging at a particular angle.

>How do you know when ligs are the limiting factor? <

This would be when hanging at a lower angle, the skin is loose, and you can feel the ligs at the base, under the skin are tight.

>You said you alternated between hanging for both, what type of regimen did you use? Equal time for both?<

No. The longest I hung to stretch skin was probably two weeks. This was in the beginning, and a couple of times after large erect gains. The skin is much easier to work than the tougher connective tissues. The vast majority of time was spent on ligs and tunica.

However, the skin is usually the first limiting factor because of the bunching of the internal structures before they take the stress. This sliding down of the wrapped bundle and hanger naturally stretches the skin first.

Let me say this. You can stress both at the same time, and many guys do especially in the beginning. Later, when gains are tougher, it is more efficient and seems to be more productive to divide and conquer, stressing one element at a time.

>1c.) Assuming you have attached correctly, are there any “rules” like if you’re not working the ligs, you’re working skin?<

Yes, there are rules, but I really need a diagram to show you. Hairy Guy had talked about this also. It truly is a simple physics example, but you need to be able to see it. I will try to draw something to illustrate the forces.

>Then the last sets were both burning the ligs and shaft like crazy. Some of them I stopped early due to this and swollen head.<

This was probably total fatigue. In fact, you reached fatigue earlier, and could have gone down in weight to make things more comfortable. I get the feeling you are not relaxing but rather watching the clock during these sets. Don’t fight it.

>2.)Oddly, some of my best sets were when I had a swollen head. Is this common?<

It is not uncommon. The swollen head is really a concern at higher weights. But that is starting with too much blood in the head. It seems you are accumulating blood during the set. This is possible at lower weights.

>I even tightened the bottom gap. I also find that toward the end of a set or the end of a day, the head becomes inflated quicker, loses temp. etc. It always goes away the second I detach but it is noticeable. (Side note, my head always seems a little cooler than my shaft) No more slipping, but still head swells, and .I assume its almost impossible to have a soft head the entire time?<

No, not impossible. See the answer above. Usually, the swelling is a product of the wrap being too tight.

>Oh yea, I’m getting a hellacious stretch. MY penis goes between my balls ( no more ball problems really, did some manual stretching) and then some of the shaft lies between my crack, and the hanger rests on the edge of my but. It takes a few sets to reach this level of stretch, but since the (basically, the hanger moves around alot in my ass crack, since it is not a flat surface )hanger has not completely left the butt yet, it twists alot. I have to adjust multiple times during the day and sets. <

This is not unusual.

>3.) I assume it will be like this until my shaft is completely BTC with the hanger free hanging on the bottom?<

Try to utilize the skids on the bottom of the hanger. If you can get even the front edge of the skids to ride on the edge of your chair, it will stabilize the hanger.

>Like I said before some sets I feel nothing , than some I feel crazy skin burn and lig pull. <

Totally normal.

>4.) DO I want to feel it all in the ligs or both, because sometimes I feel both? <

You do not understand yet.

First, it is not unusual to feel the stress in ligs, tunica, and skin. It depends on the angle(s) of hang, what stage of PE you are in, what other exercises you are doing, and a million other factors.

> I know you said you should be relaxed but sometimes I get sweaty and flustered as the pull/skin stretch increase, the last few sets feels like my unit is about to rip in half due to the stretch/pull ( I felt both ligs and skin),<

Hello? This is fatigue. This is the time to lower the weight. If lowering the weight does not bring relief, then it is total fatigue and you need to switch to another angle, or stop. DO NOT GO THROUGH TORTURE. The only thing that will happen if you force it is that you will eventually NOT want to hang anymore. Try to make it enjoyable.

>but then a few hours later tonight, not really that sore, I think I was approaching total fatigue…..What do you think? <

This is not unusual. Many times I would wear it out during the day, and then be able to hang a couple sets at night with no problems. It depends on the individual and his recovery time.

>BTW, should total fatigue only be felt in ligs, or all over?<

It depends. See above and I will try to get a diagram.

>5.) Is their a correlation between the max weights one uses in their “career” to the amount of length gained?<

I do not think so. Once again, it is totally individual.

>6.) I know you talked about the migrating ball sack before, but did you ever have a problem with migrating shaft hair?<

Yes, about three or four inches.

>7.) Did you stretch skin in each position as well, or did you just focus on ligs in various positions?<

No, skin was no problem for me OTL and OTS. Unless of course I wrapped my scrotum in the OTS position. Then I was trying to stretch the scrotum.

>8.) When switching to a brand new position, what poundage should you start at?<

Very low, maybe 2.5 lbs. Once again, move up slowly.

>9.)How much of a role and what is that role that the position of the blue straps play in making adjustments?<

Almost none. They are in the middle of the hanger. The important thing is the position of the shaft in the shaft well. If it is low enough, the position of the blue straps will be fine.

Of course, they can pivot to accomodate the various angles.

Good post. I liked it even though I emptied a bottle of Advil. If you do not understand or need clarification, ask away. This in depth stuff is what is needed.

Thanks,

Bigger

BIB/Yoda

I’m glad I can give you a headache…..That’s good you like to answer questions, because I like to ask them.

OK, 1st today’s update. I’m a slacker today, Hung only 4.5 hrs.

I must say every time you say something can be done, I continue to prove it slowly. Today every single set was hung with out blood in the head and no swelling! Pretty good huh? I consider it a win in my book. One step closer to mastering this thing (if that’s possible). I learned that that hanger must be cranked shut. just like you said…..why don’t people listen? I know it must drive you crazy, the same questions over and over….you’re a better man than me…

Oh yea and I like the sarcasm, keep it up.

follow up questions

>For me, this varied completely. There were many days that I did not reach fatigue. Then some days, I could not hang my previous max weight. Go slow and never try to force the fatigued feeling. Relax and let it happen if it is going to happen.<

1.) So you mean not everyone will ever reach fatigue in their “careers” or just that workday? This is kinda weird, if you mean the former……I mean sooner or later wouldn’t everyone fatigue?

2.)Today, an amazing thing happened, at the conclusion of my sets, I was jacking…..er, jelqing and on my first outward stroke I could feel some type of fibers ( I assume tunica/ligs) releasing and even making noises like it was stretching out like an accordion/slinky. It didn’t hurt, felt good and I think it was a good thing, some indication of progress. Ever experience this?

3.) At the end of my work days my flaccid is so springy and stretchy its ridiculous, but when I wake up the next day, it is back to the taut wire due to the ligs, or at least tighter than before the sets. I believe the reason why most people fail to make gains is because they hang a) for not enough time to get to this level of elastin breakdown and b) they don’t hang frequent enough which allows the ligs and other structures to heal completely, making them stronger. We don’t won’t the ligs to become stronger, just longer, right?

I believe where as in bodybuilding rest is the pillar of success, In hanging rest is the anti-christ considering you are not totally destroying your dick. I mean it requires enough weight, for enough time, and enough times a week for the ligs to “understand” hey i will lengthen whether I like it or not.

Is this about right? If you agree, considering I work my way up, why shouldn’t I just hang as frequently as possible, considering practicality and safety issues of course? You yourself said you had problems with rest days on the weekends sometimes? 2in2002 also had problems with prolonged periods of rest. I truly believe and I think you said this before, the main factor is time, not weight. Meaning you must hang as frequently as possible and as long as possible (consecutive sets) I am really seeing this because sometimes during a workday, my I can literally “see” my penis sliding and stretching further and further as the day goes on. I believe the more you hang the faster it will come (assuming safety issues of course). Tell me what you think.

4.)

>When it is taking a majority or significant portion of the stress. When it is very tight while hanging at a particular angle. [Skin]<

How loose should the skin be? sometimes I can pinch alot, sometimes a little but usually I can always pinch something, unlike when I first started.

5.)

>However, the skin is usually the first limiting factor because of the bunching of the internal structures before they take the stress. This sliding down of the wrapped bundle and hanger naturally stretches the skin first<

Explain what you mean by the “bunching”. The ligs bunch, you mean in the flaccid state, or what?

6.)

>This was probably total fatigue. In fact, you reached fatigue earlier, and could have gone down in weight to make things more comfortable. I get the feeling you are not relaxing but rather watching the clock during these sets. Don’t fight it.<

You are quite an intuitive one Yoda. So, let me hear it one more time, I should never ever have a desire to watch the clock? I mean surely even you felt some discomfort from time time (assuming besides skin stretch obviously). You make it seem like hanging is a day at the massage parlor, or lying on the beach on a warm spring day with not a care in the world, like no one would ever want to detach the hanger from themselves. Is it TRULY a passive event? If you agree, I will heed this, and reduce my over—enthusiastic ways. I mean it just seems too easy to hang some weight with no “strain” and so many months later I have a larger dick. But, as I’m learning in life, maybe it just is that easy, if I put in my time……………

7.) I have mastered the wrap, mastered hanger placement, mastered the “bloody head syndrome”…..the last one I see is the slight temp. drop in the head…What should I do, or is this one just bound to happen due to decreased blood flow?

8.)

>Hello? This is fatigue. This is the time to lower the weight. If lowering the weight does not bring relief, then it is total fatigue and you need to switch to another angle, or stop. DO NOT GO THROUGH TORTURE. The only thing that will happen if you force it is that you will eventually NOT want to hang anymore. Try to make it enjoyable.<

This made me laugh, and spoke volumes at the same time.

9.)

>Yes, about three or four inches. [migrating hair shaft]<

RUN! It’s BIB-Foot! Sas-Crotch! What did you do about this? I can see where I’m already going, I want gains, but I don’t want to go there that way. Did you do electrolysis, laser, or some type of hair removal? I’ve never seen you talk about this before! Tell me me you don’t have hair running half way down your dick?

10.)

Looking at the “Big picture” hanging is just part of my PE career. I plan to hang for length, then I guess Uli for girth, some type of foreskin restoration, and somehow correct a slight leftward curve in my shaft.

I know you said that you gained some foreskin from hanging? How much coverage do you have now? Did you restore or just what you got from hanging? Any experience with curving? I don’t want this to increase as I get longer…

Well let me get back to getting the hang of this hanging thing. Hang in there wise one.

As always, thanks.


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

bbs,

Great post. I will get to it when I have a minute.

Thanks,

Bigger

bbs,

Well, let’s see if I can tackle this, have the server crash, and really get my blood pressure up.

>1.) So you mean not everyone will ever reach fatigue in their “careers” or just that workday? This is kinda weird, if you mean the former……I mean sooner or later wouldn’t everyone fatigue?<

workday.

>2.)Today, an amazing thing happened, at the conclusion of my sets, I was jacking…..er, jelqing and on my first outward stroke I could feel some type of fibers ( I assume tunica/ligs) releasing and even making noises like it was stretching out like an accordion/slinky. It didn’t hurt, felt good and I think it was a good thing, some indication of progress. Ever experience this?<

Well, I experienced a hell of a lot of stuff, but what you describe does not really ring a bell.

>3.) At the end of my work days my flaccid is so springy and stretchy its ridiculous, but when I wake up the next day, it is back to the taut wire due to the ligs, or at least tighter than before the sets. I believe the reason why most people fail to make gains is because they hang a) for not enough time to get to this level of elastin breakdown and b) they don’t hang frequent enough which allows the ligs and other structures to heal completely, making them stronger. <

Some guys are able to hang for very little time and weight, and still make good gains. Others take a hell of a lot of each. Some of the guys who have not made gains have hung a long time and with a lot of weight. But then others who are hard gainers hit the magic number and start to gain. There simply is no rhyme or reason.

>We don’t won’t the ligs to become stronger, just longer, right?<

Right, but in general, they will become stronger as they become longer. This is because the fibers become more equal in length and resist in concert. My opinion.

>I believe where as in bodybuilding rest is the pillar of success, In hanging rest is the anti-christ considering you are not totally destroying your dick. I mean it requires enough weight, for enough time, and enough times a week for the ligs to “understand” hey i will lengthen whether I like it or not. <

It is pretty much like any other tension regimen for lengthening body parts.

>Is this about right? If you agree, considering I work my way up, why shouldn’t I just hang as frequently as possible, considering practicality and safety issues of course? You yourself said you had problems with rest days on the weekends sometimes? <

I think, within reason, that the longer you hang, the faster gains will come, and possibly the total gains will be greater. That is considering working up to the longer levels and being careful to listen to your body. For many guys, anything over ten hours per week will be wasted. For others, forty hours will still be beneficial.

Then, there are simply many guys who gain with only five or six hours per week. But if you have the time, have other things you can get done while hanging, the longer times will, in general, be profitable.

I see no reason to try to hang past total fatigue, or to hang so much that you suffer from ED. You have to place time and amount of weight within your own context.

>I truly believe and I think you said this before, the main factor is time, not weight. Meaning you must hang as frequently as possible and as long as possible (consecutive sets) I am really seeing this because sometimes during a workday, my I can literally “see” my penis sliding and stretching further and further as the day goes on. I believe the more you hang the faster it will come (assuming safety issues of course). Tell me what you think.<

No, you cannot take the amount of weight out of the formulae with time. Some guys do wonders with high weights and a little time. Others do great with low weights and a lot of time. Then there is every conceivable point in between. You have to find what works for you. Take the routines and results of others with a grain of salt. Learn about your own body and how it reacts to various stresses.

>How loose should the skin be? sometimes I can pinch alot, sometimes a little but usually I can always pinch something, unlike when I first started.<

If you can pinch a little, then most of the stress is probably on the ligs. Also, if you feel no skin burn, most of the stress is on the ligs.

>Explain what you mean by the “bunching”. The ligs bunch, you mean in the flaccid state, or what?<

No, the hanger grasps the CC, CS, and tunica, as a wrapped bundle. The CC and CS structures give more than the tunica and are what generally ‘bunch’. Usually, the hanger is not positioned on or behind the lig attachment points on the tunica.

>So, let me hear it one more time, I should never ever have a desire to watch the clock?<

That is correct.

> I mean surely even you felt some discomfort from time time (assuming besides skin stretch obviously).<

If so, I did something about it. That is the single biggest reason the hanger became so comfortable. Aversion to pain.

>You make it seem like hanging is a day at the massage parlor, or lying on the beach on a warm spring day with not a care in the world, like no one would ever want to detach the hanger from themselves. Is it TRULY a passive event?<

Well, I don’t know about all that reverend, but it is passive. Now, I did things like the ab crunches, and even just pelvic raises with the hanger on the edge of the chair. The friction of the skids on the chair or extension would give an increase in stress. But it was always comfortable. Anyway, these things were not exactly passive.

>If you agree, I will heed this, and reduce my over—enthusiastic ways. I mean it just seems too easy to hang some weight with no “strain” and so many months later I have a larger dick. But, as I’m learning in life, maybe it just is that easy, if I put in my time……………<

You may need pain to gain, but I did not. I hope most others do not. I think hanging daily in pain would lessen the chances that a guy would continue over the long run. I do not know of any other static tension regimens for body part growth that involves pain. Maybe someone else does.

>7.) I have mastered the wrap, mastered hanger placement, mastered the “bloody head syndrome”…..the last one I see is the slight temp. drop in the head…What should I do, or is this one just bound to happen due to decreased blood flow?<

It will happen somewhat, but just make sure the wrap is not too tight causing a lot of cooling. Also, you will find your “mastery” of the above techniques not quite so masterful as things change within your penis. You must learn to “master” the art of adaptation.

>>Yes, about three or four inches. [migrating hair shaft]<

RUN! It’s BIB-Foot! Sas-Crotch!<

hehe. No, it’s mean enough without the shag.

>What did you do about this? I can see where I’m already going, I want gains, but I don’t want to go there that way. Did you do electrolysis, laser, or some type of hair removal? I’ve never seen you talk about this before! Tell me me you don’t have hair running half way down your dick?<

No, it’s called a Conair beard trimmer. Maybe fifteen bucks. Funny, I also have a beard. How convenient. I don’t think the hair down the shaft would look bad, but the one-eighth to one-quarter inch stubble does wonders during sex. It seems to hit right at the exact spot needed. Added friction. French tickler. Whatever.

>Looking at the “Big picture” hanging is just part of my PE career. I plan to hang for length, then I guess Uli for girth, some type of foreskin restoration, and somehow correct a slight leftward curve in my shaft. <

The whole makeover.

>I know you said that you gained some foreskin from hanging? How much coverage do you have now? Did you restore or just what you got from hanging?<

When flaccid, I pretty much look uncut. This raises the sensitivity of the head over time. Good and bad. While actually hanging, it was sometimes even more.

> Any experience with curving? I don’t want this to increase as I get longer…<

No, no curves, sliders or changeups. Many have reported straightening from hanging as well as other PE techniques, but I have no experience.

Good post.

Bigger

BIB

>It is pretty much like any other tension regimen for lengthening body parts.

I think, within reason, that the longer you hang, the faster gains will come, and possibly the total gains will be greater. That is considering working up to the longer levels and being careful to listen to your body. For many guys, anything over ten hours per week will be wasted. For others, forty hours will still be beneficial.

Then, there are simply many guys who gain with only five or six hours per week. But if you have the time, have other things you can get done while hanging, the longer times will, in general, be profitable.

I see no reason to try to hang past total fatigue, or to hang so much that you suffer from ED. You have to place time and amount of weight within your own context.

No, you cannot take the amount of weight out of the formulae with time. Some guys do wonders with high weights and a little time. Others do great with low weights and a lot of time. Then there is every conceivable point in between. You have to find what works for you. Take the routines and results of others with a grain of salt. Learn about your own body and how it reacts to various stresses.<

Ok, is there any way one can figure out their individual rate of optimal work and recovery??

2.) MY balls sac is now creeping onto the shaft. The darker thicker ball skin is rising. I checked today when erect and I have a pretty large acute triangle of connecting skin like you talked about. What else can I do besides the ball wrapping?? The right ball always wants to slip out of the wrap, or they become uncomfortable during the hanging session.

3. With all your measurements, do you BP everything, like when you say 4.5 inches gained that is BP right? And all your flaccid stretched, those are BP too right?

4.

>No, no curves, sliders or changeups.<

Good one. I like that…

5.) Oh yea, you said you gained 1.5 inches of base girth right? I was kind of curious to your rate of gain per month of this base girth? Like I remember you said you gained about 1/4 per month in length, what was the girth rate?


"The world is a one way mirror. What they see, is what you see. What do you want people to see?" Women. If you're going to swing...swing for the fucking fences. "The reasonable man insists on adapting to the world. The unreasonable man persists on having the world adapt to him. Therefore, all progress in the world is made by the unreasonable man." "Success is not a surprise."

BIB

did you miss these??

Also did you see the thread I put up?…..

When I jelq it seems as if something is loose inside my penis frim like the middle of shaft into the head, it doesn’t hurt, it just feels weird….ever experience this? I took yesterday off…..maybe it’s becasue things are getting stretched out


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bbs,

>did you miss these??<

Yes, yes I did miss these. Can’t seem to keep up.

>When I jelq it seems as if something is loose inside my penis frim like the middle of shaft into the head, it doesn’t hurt, it just feels weird….ever experience this? I took yesterday off…..maybe it’s becasue things are getting stretched out <

I answered this somewhere else. I never experienced anything like this. Don’t know what it could be, but I felt many weird things over the course of my PE career.

>Ok, is there any way one can figure out their individual rate of optimal work and recovery??<

Yes, practice, practice, practice. Experience. Not being afraid to adapt and change with the changing dynamics.

>2.) MY balls sac is now creeping onto the shaft. The darker thicker ball skin is rising. I checked today when erect and I have a pretty large acute triangle of connecting skin like you talked about. What else can I do besides the ball wrapping?? The right ball always wants to slip out of the wrap, or they become uncomfortable during the hanging session.<

That ball slipping thing is a hell of a feeling, huh? You might have to do more manual stretching before the wrap works well for you. Believe me, it does get better. I don’t know how detailed that post is, but the manual stretching really works well for before you wrap. Really should be little problem.

That is: Grasp with an ok grip around the sac just above the balls. Then grasp the shaft with your other hand and pull in opposite directions. Up down, and side to side. This will really stretch the skin to give you plenty for wrapping. Then, when you wrap, it will take some time to understand the amount of tension needed to keep the balls in, and still allow circulation.

Do not try to hang with too much weight. This is really almost 100% skin stretch on the bottom of the shaft and it is intense.

>3. With all your measurements, do you BP everything, like when you say 4.5 inches gained that is BP right? And all your flaccid stretched, those are BP too right? <

Yes.

>5.) Oh yea, you said you gained 1.5 inches of base girth right? I was kind of curious to your rate of gain per month of this base girth? Like I remember you said you gained about 1/4 per month in length, what was the girth rate? <

I did not take the measures of shaft girth each month. I had a lot of increase at the base within the first six-eight months. After that, it was slower but still steady.

Sorry about missing your post.

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