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Deglitching the BIB Starter, a Personal Discovery

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Deglitching the BIB Starter, a Personal Discovery

Deglitching the BIB Starter, a Personal Discovery

I finally gained traction (pun intended) with the BIB starter. Like ModestoMan, I have taken the BIB off the shelf more time than I can remember only to induce modest nerve numbness each time, which fortunately recovered. These injures are partly my own physiology and suboptimal technique, not the BIB hanger fault. The start-stop pattern never enabled traction through long term use necessary for gains. I therefore used other methodologies over time.

(Since my last thread, I am up to 8” EBP, having low body fat the BPE is w/in ¼” of E.L. At 5’5” 138 lbs I am pleased. ) I started the BIB starter hanger about four months ago, with no injuries.

After reading the thread on the Big Gainer Interview by wadzilla (the interviewee gained from5 to 9 inches by jelquing and stretching obsessively. Also, the Eroset Oil thread was very helpful and allowed enhanced stimulation with some healing effect for more effective jelquing. So I formulated a general model based on jelquing and stretching which was the beginning of my recent progress before initiating this process I had stabilized at around 7.25” BPE give or take, +/- a plateau for several years. The Erosed oil-jelq-stretch routine was gradually yielding results, the manual stretch I found to personally be a “drag” and postulated that the BIB Starter should once more be attempted.

I dusted it off and started reviewing what may have gone wrong in the past. I found the following:

- remove the inner gel from the BIB, it tends to have negative implications at least for me, per circulation.
- cut a strip of medium theraband 2” X 16” (instead of 1.25” X 16” I previously used- not wide enough), additionally use 2” adhesive ace wrap cutting it into a strip of 2” X 6-7” resulting in double wrap. Increasing the width of the theraband and double wrapping with ace I reasoned created a more stable “platform” to attach the BIB reducing the probability of crimping induced negative circulatory/nerve implications.
- - use heat lamp, which has more of a hot tub effect in that the qualitative effects of the heat at least to me seemed far superior that fooling with a heating pad, rice sock, etc which is a hassle. The heat lamp warmth is much more dispersed – again the entire groin area is gently warmed up analogous to sitting in a hot tub- v. optimal! This is hands free heating, just turn the lamp on, position it a safe distance, and you warmed up in 5 minutes and ready to go. I keep it on the entire time, this can be a personal choice.
- Prevent twisting in a SD or BTC position by use of a bunjee cord appropriately positioned on the hanger and left leg ( a photo of this would be helpful).
- I take many nutritional supplements including, Miraforte (Life Extension Foundation product), niacin, Argentine, Glutamine, Vitamin C. ARG, GLU,and Niacin stimulate secretion of GH, as does aerobic exercise. Also vasodilatation is produced by niacin and ARG.
- For older students of PE, a chemical component can be considered (see “Patent Pending Chemical PE” thread of induction of PE by chemical means per erection enhances such as Viagra, etc.) which should be done under the counsel of your physician and used in smallest effective dose.

I have not had any injuries in four months with the BIB starter, have definitely gained momentum and size (¾” up to 8”). Continued gains appear promising/open ended at this point. I have said (using a baseball analogy) that I am not restricted to nine inning games, but play until success is achieved. Don’t give up!

Merlin

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Originally Posted by Merlin
I have taken the BIB off the shelf more time than I can remember only to induce modest nerve numbness

Still pretty scary. There are some penile types for whom the BIB is just unusable without injury, IMO. Tried a vac hanger?

Merlin try the bib starter it’s great I haven’t had and bruising with it at all. I’m glad you have been making gains do you really feel the oil is helping?


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Dino look at the title of the thread; the starter is what he’s using.

Originally Posted by Merlin
ARG, GLU,and Niacin stimulate secretion of GH

So does 500 mg of PABA and 50mg of Vit. B6 taken before bedtime.
Combined with 500 mg of Pantothenic Acid in the morning you prevent and even reverse graying.

Wow, Merlin. Those are truly incredible gains for someone as far along in his PE career as you. Congratulations.

Exactly how much weight were you hanging? Also, how do you think the hanger contributed to your ability to gain? Do you think you could have done just as well with a different hanger?


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Hey Merlin, do you feel that erosets vein oil helped you regain sensitivity?

Originally Posted by Klayton
Dino look at the title of the thread; the starter is what he’s using.

The new one not his old one it’s been redesigned I should have added that:)


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Klayton
Still pretty scary. There are some penile types for whom the BIB is just unusable without injury, IMO. Tried a vac hanger?


Klayton,

As far asI know there is almost nothing that I havent tried (or some form therof). I have tried vac hanger called , I believe, trac-man. Came with a spring scaled tripod and form fitting cylinder. I found that above lets say 7 lbs, there was a substantial possibility of blistering of the glans. I did give this device a good going over, but after the aggrivation of a number of blisters that ususally took a week plus to heal, I put it aside, and felt the BIB starter was a better device (thought at that time I had not worked out the glitches) and had the potential for far greater weight (open ended possibilities). Intuitively I felt the BIB was a masterful invention with great potential. I did use the tripod with spring scaled component with the BIB at times.

Merlin

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Wow, Merlin. Those are truly incredible gains for someone as far along in his PE career as you. Congratulations.

Exactly how much weight were you hanging? Also, how do you think the hanger contributed to your ability to gain? Do you think you could have done just as well with a different hanger?

ModestoMan,

Yes, you are right about the gains, I surprised myself! I started at 7.5 lbs, and after 4-5 months have worked up to 18.75 lbs, my current range would be 13.75 to 18.75 depending of the fatigue/soreness factor. The de-gelled BIB starter so far is fine, I do have the regular BIB. What other hangers did you have in mind? The BIB is the primary factor in the gains, my angles are BTC, SD, SO to the right and to the left- these seem to hit the ligs and the musculature, etc. coprehensively (divide and conquer).

Merlin

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
The new one not his old one it’s been redesigned I should have added that:)

Is there a big difference? Just looks like the padding has gone.

Anyone used both, if so what are the improvements in the new one?

Originally Posted by tacojoe
Hey Merlin, do you feel that erosets vein oil helped you regain sensitivity?


tacojoe,

I would say yes to your question, additionally the EROSET Oil/ jelque combination will “anabolically” effect all aspects of the penis: i.e. improve circulation, neurology, and stamina, it may have even helped prepair my unit for the rigors of the BIB hanger.

Merlin

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
The new one not his old one it’s been redesigned I should have added that:)


Dino9X7,

Have you tried the new one, if so do you have a preference?

Merlin

Originally Posted by Klayton
Is there a big difference? Just looks like the padding has gone.

Anyone used both, if so what are the improvements in the new one?

I didn’t use the old started I used a full sized bib but the new one has a few changes like the teeth and the well where you penis rest. It doest put as much pressure on your dick and what pressure it does put it seems to spread out better. I had a bruising problem with the bib and this new design has seemed to fix it. I had removed the padding from my old bib and while I did like it better without the jell I still bruised.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I didn’t use the old started I used a full sized bib but the new one has a few changes like the teeth and the well where you penis rest. It doest put as much pressure on your dick and what pressure it does put it seems to spread out better. I had a bruising problem with the bib and this new design has seemed to fix it. I had removed the padding from my old bib and while I did like it better without the jell I still bruised.


Dino9X7,

Thanks for you thoughts on this.

Merlin

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