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Very helpful and informative posts, I’m sure they’ll help other people as much as they’re going to help me. :) Thanks again.

Isn’t LOT theory dismissed around here? I see you’re one of Bib’s followers (I don’t mean that in a negative way) so I guess you’re sticking with it.

I plan to hang about 1.5 hours a day, maybe 2, that’s 10.5-14 hours a week if I don’t take rest days. I suppose that should be enough. It’s good that hanging allows multitasking so I can study while I do it, without wasting time.

As for ADS, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to wear it very much. I mean, I’ll try, but I’m not sure 5 or even 8 hours a day is going to be possible. Is that a big problem?

Maybe if I get my hands on some molding silicone and make my own ADS sleeves.


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Originally Posted by UpTo7

Good to hear, that will spare me some time. Is there an explanation for “the longer the better” approach (I mean with sets; I know why is longer total time better)?

Hanging is based on creeping of fibers. The longer the load is applied without rest, the easier the creep is produced. Intuitively, when you rest your penis tends to return to its original lenght.

Originally Posted by UpTo7
Isn’t LOT theory dismissed around here?

LOT Theory: I Only Used the Terminology to Describe Some Angles
Insomuch as LOT theory attempts to predict ligament gains yes, it is very controversial, and was not proven with a second attempt (it worked for the original data-set, that’s how the theory was born). But I'm not using LOT theory in that context, I’m just using it as an easy reference to describe the angle from which your penis exits your pelvis. LOT theory is irrelevant here, except that I’m using it to explain the potential current state of your ligaments. It’s common knowledge that some guys have a penis that naturally points straight down & some guys have a penis that points straight out.

Ligaments First, Tunica Second?
Theoretically, it should be easier to maximize suspensory ligament deformation gains vs Tunica gains. If that was in dispute, I was unaware. In fact, I believe the exact opposite is true. It appears there’s a consensus that Tunica deformation gains are more difficult to create than ligament deformation gains. Now as far as maximizing suspensory ligament gains, I did provide a link explaining why it is important to do this before you proceed to Tunica work.

Originally Posted by UpTo7

As for ADS, I’m not sure I’m going to be able to wear it very much. I mean, I’ll try, but I’m not sure 5 or even 8 hours a day is going to be possible. Is that a big problem?

Split Sets Ideal
An ADS may help a bit, but at least one split set, 12 hours from your other sets might help more (Bib is convinced of this). I think the reason is that an ADS might not be as effective in pulling the crimps out of your ligaments and stretching them back out (so you can heal some more in an elongated state again).

Originally Posted by marinera
Hanging is based on creeping of fibers. The longer the load is applied without rest, the easier the creep is produced. Intuitively, when you rest your penis tends to return to its original length.

Time vs Weight
I agree with Marinera and I always liked his theory Loading, lengthening, healing. (That statement is at least along the same line of thought). The theory explains to some extent why hangers may experience ‘sudden gains’ as well as the importance of cementing gains. It provides a good contrast to time vs weight (e.g. extenders vs hanging devices).

As an extreme example, very high weight for a very short time will not produce gains, and very light weight (or almost no weight at all) will not produce gains even over long periods of time.

In my opinion it supports the idea that you’ll need to hang for a decent amount of time (e.g. 10 hours per week) to optimize your gains, otherwise you’ll just be letting yourself continually heal shorter.

The issue with an extender is that at some point, it may fail to produce fatigue (due to the limited force it can produce); in contrast, hanging can always produce fatigue (since there’s no limit on the weight that can be used). I could say more on this, but I think I’m going off-topic ;)

It makes sense that ligaments should be targeted first and tunica second, but both BTC and SD target the ligaments, don’t they? SO and SU target the tunica more. I’m curious what makes BTC so much better than SD for beginners?

Are you saying that doing one hanging set about 12 hours after a hanging routine is better than using lightweight ADS for several hours a day? Because that’s certainly a lot more practical solution than having something attached to penis during most of the day. I go to college and have to sit during classes and it would be quite awkward if people asked me what’s that weird looking bulge in my pants.

Thanks for the link to that marinera’s thread, I’ll give it a read now. :)


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You’re right, they are very similar.

Any downward angle will target the suspensory ligaments. BTC or SD is fine (they both target very similar tissues & they are both downward angles), but the BTC angle might be a bit more effective for targeting ligaments.

Originally Posted by UpTo7
Are you saying that doing one hanging set about 12 hours after a hanging routine is better than using lightweight ADS for several hours a day?

According to Bib yes. I have not tested this on myself (I have done split sets, but not much ADS work). And I haven’t done either for enough months or years to give an accurate assessment.

It does make sense though that hanging some weight will help you keep building on the controlled damage you did earlier in the day & get your tissues back into a more deformed state. Then 12 hours from that time, you’ll be hanging a number of sets again, rinse, repeat…

(most ADS devices might end up being too light to have the same effect, especially once you move into the higher weights)

Split sets are quite hard for me to do consistently. However, I try to do them because according to Bib they are very effective. At least so far, Bib’s advice is working well for me. I’ll know better once I have a year of continuous hanging (it’s only been a few months so far since I came back to PE).

Then I’m definitely going to do a set about 12 hours after a session whenever I have an opportunity to do it.

Once again, thanks for all the advice, they will definitely help me in my hanging endeavours. :)


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Goal • 7.00''x5.75''

Good luck :)

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