Bib just wanted you to know. It has been this way for at least since 10 AM Eastern time.I was trying to decide between the starter and regular and wanted to go to your site. No problem. I appreciate the quick feedback. Good luck! TT
I tell you, this hanger thing is a giant pain it the ass. If it wasn’t for needing to get the instructions back up for guys that already have them, this would be an good time to end it.
If it wasn’t for wx and Thunder, I probably would anyway. These guys are really good.
You ain’t getting away that easy. I haven’t even started to hang yet and I need you around for when I do. :D:D So do a lot of others !!!! Check your PM’s please.
I look at it like this. I know it is a hassle and a super bitch. I appreciate all your efforts! When I say this I speak for everyone. You are an inspiration to us all. So, do what you can, if it is too much I still will be thankful! TT
Bib’s site should be back online at a new address shortly. One of us will post, and I’ll change the links on both forums, when it is ready. Give wx a little time to upload the material.
Sure no problem. I am glad it could be saved! I know for all of us future hangers this is a blessing! Thanks Bib, and Thunder. Of course anyone else who helps with the bib page too! TT
Well, the old site is back up for the time being.
I guess I have not lost my touch in nasty letter writing. They did apologize for any inconvenience. But never explained why they took it down.
But it was loading slow for me. Hopefully, wx can have the files up on the Thunder deal before long.
Have I said what a great guy Thunder is? Generosity knows no bounds with this guy.
It is hard to explain how important your posts have been in my PE. I would NEVER had considered hanging without them. I have your starter model and am very pleased with the engineering you put into this thing. Your constant comments on helping others SAFELY pursue a lifelong dream cannot be underestimated.
As far as being a PITA… I am sure it is. Before you ditch the whole thing let me suggest mearly increasing the price to whatever your time is worth to YOU. If people do not want to pay it… so be it. Those of us lucky enough to have benefited from your unique experience will count our blessings.
Take Thunder up on his offer. Screw anyone that cannot differentiate from hawking and missionary work (ha,ha).
BTW, I too tried to go up quickly in weight. I guess its the old gym mentality. I am now using between 7.5 and 10lbs with an occasional 12.5 straight out. I am still working on comfort but have made improvements.
<It is hard to explain how important your posts have been in my PE. I would NEVER had considered hanging without them. I have your starter model and am very pleased with the engineering you put into this thing. Your constant comments on helping others SAFELY pursue a lifelong dream cannot be underestimated. <
I appreciate that.
>As far as being a PITA… I am sure it is. Before you ditch the whole thing let me suggest mearly increasing the price to whatever your time is worth to YOU. If people do not want to pay it… so be it. Those of us lucky enough to have benefited from your unique experience will count our blessings.<
Well, there’s the rub. The engineering and production problems were fun. I know, I bitched about that also, all the time. But it was interesting and challenging. There are still a lot of guys that need help, and I want to help them. But I guess the problem is, when is it going to end?
This is naive, but in the beginning, I was going to make hangers for the guys on the forum. Just a couple hundred. By the time it was finished, and I could multiple produce them, many of those guys were gone, but a lot of other guys wanted them. Then new guys come on all the time.
The price of the hangers is what I think is fair. I could not charge anymore, and that is not the problem.
>Take Thunder up on his offer. Screw anyone that cannot differentiate from hawking and missionary work (ha,ha). <
Hell, Thunder went out and got the space for me, signed me up and got a domain name. He did it in about 20 minutes. Before I could make my first arguement, he had it done.
>BTW, I too tried to go up quickly in weight. I guess its the old gym mentality. I am now using between 7.5 and 10lbs with an occasional 12.5 straight out. I am still working on comfort but have made improvements. <
If you need any tips, just ask.
Thanks for your words. Tell me when you gain.
That little invention should win you the Nobel peace prize. Yes, I had my problems in the begining getting use to hanging with the new hanger. But that was me. I started off too aggressive and this led to swelling problems that took quite a while to resolve. But I persevered and after a few months of on again/off again I finally got it together. It was mostly simple hanger and weight adjustments.
It works. Period. That’s what counts. I know now because since December I have been getting results, small, but results and most of my problems have gone away. As I am getting more use to the hanger and can read my body better I can get even more hang time. I know for sure that when I measure at the end of February I will see my biggest gain yet. It may only be 3/16 of an inch but that is 3/16 of an inch more than I had 1 month ago or about 1 inch more than I had a year ago. For the price I paid it is one hell of a deal.
If Thunder is willing to host you Bib, go for it. If there is something I can do to help you from here, let me know. If you just need moral support, I can give you that too. But what ever happens, I agree with the rest, there are a lot of PE’ers (that don’t even know about the program yet) that are out there that will want to obtain that “perfect” penis. Your little invention is their best bet on getting length.
I know because it took me a long time before I found the old EZ board (over 2 years). I was not going to go to a pay site, because I felt they were probably a scam. Since belonging to the EZ board and reading and participating and getting results I knew that PE does work. After many comments, I came to the realization that not all pay sites are scams. You are living proof that it works. But if I had found your site in a search engine, I likely would not have ordered your product. That would have been my loss, but because you were associated with a site that was free and open to anyone, and following your comments and those of others, it became evident that you were developing a product specifically for us. I bought it, and I’m glad I did.
I support this and the other PE site because I want to make sure that other lurkers will have the same chance as I did. (Thanks Thunder for getting these sites up for us).
Yes one day you will want to retire from this “business”, and I from mine too. All I want to know is that in my life I have done something that has made a difference to others, whether it be in business or personal, that’s what really matters in the end.
We all appreciate you. Regards Canuck
I really appreciate the kind words. The gains and thoughts of you guys do make it worthwhile. I just wished I could forsee how this thing could have gotten out of hand and planned a little better.
Thunder got me all set up and wx transferred the files. Everything should be fine now. And I have to cook plastic tomorrow.
Once again, thanks much,
“And I have to cook plastic tomorrow.”
Have you ever heard of labor ready? You know the guys that provide tempory help for all those jobs that you don’t have time for or how about the local community college job board?
6-8 bucks an hour?
If it’s that tight raise the price.
WE DON’T CARE IT’S WORTH IT!
AND EVERYONE HERE BELIEVES IT.
heck I’ll even start the first Bib scholarship for the guys that can’t afford a hanger.
listen I already know I’m a frickin capitalist and you see things differently however…
You are the visionary, the leader, the planner not the plastics cooker. You earned it .
Come on now.
Excuse me I gotta go grind some ashalt tommorow.
>Have you ever heard of labor ready? You know the guys that provide tempory help for all those jobs that you don’t have time for or how about the local community college job board? <
The plastic cooking is not the problem at this time. I do not want any temp help in my wife’s kitchen cooking plastic for dick hangers. And I surely do not want to build facilities to make hangers. That would increase the price considerably.
>If it’s that tight raise the price. WE DON’T CARE IT’S WORTH IT!<
Well, some guys care. I think the price is fair. The goal is to help people. If you limit the amount of guys that can afford it, then the goal is defeated.
>heck I’ll even start the first Bib scholarship for the guys that can’t afford a hanger. <
>listen I already know I’m a frickin capitalist and you see things differently however… You are the visionary, the leader, the planner not the plastics cooker. You earned it . <
Well, I am a capitalist also concerning most things. Just not this. Maybe one day I will be motivated to go ‘big time’. But not right now. When and if I do decide to expand the hanger operation, you will be the first to know. I will demand that you help me. heh.
I got a little bent I had this vision of you cooking plastic in some sweaty rat infested desert factory outside of town.
Damn, I need to lay off the nightquil.
My opinion is if Bib “hires out” some of the work to help free up some time, he may end up with quality control issues. I doubt college punks would give a shit about the qaulity of thier workmanship, all they are interested in is quick beer money. I can’t really see many people taking a job of building “dick stretchers” to seriously, and consequently thier workmanship will probably show it. Maybe I’m wrong on this.
Eventhough it may be a PITA for Bib to do it all himself, I think it has it’s advantages. For starters quality control is kept in check since the very inventor does the whole process from start to finish and since Bib’s business and reputation are on the line I’m sure he pays close attention to details and monitors for any defects in each hanger he builds. It’s rather nice to see this “ma & pop” type buisness in a day and age where everything is mass produced on assembly lines and sold from coast to coast in chain “super centers” and service or quality are a thing unheard of.