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Bib starter vs regular Bib

I’ve searched the message boards and know this has been addressed before, but am wondering if in my particular situation, the answer might be different.

I’ve been using an extender and doing the newbie routine for the last 5 months with great recent gains. 3/4EL 6.7 to 7.5 BP and 1/4 EG 5.75 to 6.0. I recently started hanging using a bowflex machine that I already owned. I bought monkeybars Vac hanger, which is very comfortable, but has been causing fluid buildup and does have some sort of weight limit. ? 20lbs.

I realize that the BIB starter will initially fit better and be more versatile than the BIB. I realize that the BIB is huge and hard to position on a flaccid 4.5 to 5inch dick. I have searched and read the prior posts comparing this. My thought is that if I already have a light weight hanger ( the vac-hanger), do I really need the BIB starter?. How much weight can you hang with the starter?. How much can you realistically hang with the VacHanger?How long a flaccid do you have to have to fit into the regular Bib?.

I’m just afraid of spending money for the starter and then outgrowing it?. Does this realistically happen, or do hangers find that the Starter remains a viable option compared to the regular BIB?. Thanks for your support and replies.

P.s. Don’t need to hear about moving too fast etc.. I’m a 45 y.o. Physician, am VERY VERY careful, have spent 100’s of hours reading these posts and will not do anything stupid, or move up too quickly. Just want your expert advice. Thanks again.

If you have a 4.5 or 5 inch flaccid, then you would be fine with the regular bib. Some people actually prefer the starter bib though.

How much weight are you hanging with the vac hanger? If you have trouble with fluid build up then try putting a piece or two of medical tape over the tip of your dick before putting your vac hanger on. I like the vac hanger better than I liked my bib, but then again I never quite figured out the bib :) . When I was hanging I did lower weights with more time and I liked that a lot more.

I say try the vac with the tape and the protective head piece thingy (forget what it’s called) and see if that works alright. If you ever get past the weight your vac can hold, then look into one of those two bib models.

Congrats on your gains by the way, good luck with hanging.

Originally Posted by toobsnake

Just want your expert advice. Thanks again.

Take a long (8 [min] to 12 + week) deconditioning break and begin again using the vac, with a much lighter weight, and build up again.


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Originally Posted by toobsnake
My thought is that if I already have a light weight hanger ( the vac-hanger), do I really need the BIB starter?. How much weight can you hang with the starter?. How much can you realistically hang with the VacHanger?How long a flaccid do you have to have to fit into the regular Bib?.

With Bib you won’t have problem with fluid buildup and blisters. If you are not short in money get bib too. Bib can hold a lot of weight, Bib himself hung 45 lbs with starter without problems. I don’t know about how much vachanger could hold. I suggest going to Bib’s forum and asking himself questions about his hangers, tell him your measurements and see what he says. You may like starter more than regular, easier to hang with.

Hmm…medical tape huh? I might have to give that a try. I actually got my first blister, that later turned into a nice little scab right on the tip of my dick. I love the comfort of my vac, but the blisters and water build up are holding me back. I am currently using a home made bib type of hanger.

Hey toobsnake, I have hung with all of them, a vet with the Bib stuff. To me, his best product is the hardcore, which has allowed me to hang 35lbs comfortably…worked up over 2-3 years. You have to learn to wrap perfectly, which will take some time. I had to stop using a vac hanger when I got higher than 15 lbs.

Thanks for your help guys!. I’m currently hanging 10lbs occasionally 15 lbs with the bowflex. Although that sounds like a lot, it really isn’t as it’s a completely different pull and doesn’t feel half as hard as a 10 pound weight. The nice thing is you can easily change angles as it’s a pulley system. My main exercise is still the 3 or 4 hours with the extender, just trying to loosen the ligs up a little more with the hanging.

When I exhaust my current gains with the extender, I’ll probably shift into heavier hanging. Once again, I like the comfort of the vachanger, I’m just thinking I’m limited because of the fluid buildup.

Originally Posted by bubba77

Hey toobsnake, I have hung with all of them, a vet with the Bib stuff. To me, his best product is the hardcore, which has allowed me to hang 35lbs comfortably.worked up over 2-3 years. You have to learn to wrap perfectly, which will take some time. I had to stop using a vac hanger when I got higher than 15 lbs.

He is exactly right. Bibs product are the best. I love the hardcore. I had a regular bib but the hardcore grabs the internal alot better.

Ok, I have the same question that toobsnake has with a little bit of a twist. I’m thinking about getting a bib, but don’t know which one I should buy. I am currently using a homemade bib type hanger. The problem that I have with it, is I’m pretty thick in girth at 6 inches, and when I clamp down my dick overflows, or squishes out the top part of the hanger. I have made two homemade bibs, first one was too small. So I made another larger one, and I think this one is too small too, as I have the same problem. Will I experience this with the bib? Specifically the starter? This causes major skin irritation.

Also, do the starter and the original bib have the same adjustment mechanisms? I noticed on bibs site that he has two pics of the bibs. They look like they have different hinges. I was wondering if that is the difference (other than size), between the starter and the original?

Anyone on my above question? Pretty please with sugar on top?! Lol!

Go ask Bib on his forum.

Originally Posted by dlm4
Will I experience this with the bib? Specifically the starter? This causes major skin irritation.

Also, do the starter and the original bib have the same adjustment mechanisms? I noticed on bibs site that he has two pics of the bibs. They look like they have different hinges. I was wondering if that is the difference (other than size), between the starter and the original?


You will experience it to some degree, yes. If you wrap properly you can eliminate a lot of that though. The teeth will grab at the wrap instead of your penis.

Yes, same mechanisms. My advice is to get the Bib starter or the hardcore. The original Bib was a marvel in its time but I think it’s generally agreed upon that the newer models are an improvement. I like the look of the hardcore but my starter works so well I really can’t justify shelling out the cash to buy another hanger.

Great, thank you for the input! Now my problem is I cant decide which one to get. The hardcore starter, or the original starter…Damn it! Anyone that has tried both, which do you prefer?

Tried both, love hardcore.


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I have the hardcore and it works pretty well. Because of my girth, I do get some “squishing” on top and bottom that pinches a little. I can hang up to thirty pounds for a whole session. I have been at it a long time and nothing seems to beat the “hardcore” for hardcore hanging.


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