Okay, I’ve came to the realization that I can only use coban for tape. Unless it’s something else I don’t know about, (other than microfoam ) that I can use. I was trying to do everything to get a seal. It was ridiculous. I couldn’t even watch the ending of a game, at about 24 minutes left. Long story short, I was getting lucky using a non-stick cloth like bandage. Until now, I was putting this under the coban. I guess I’ll have to only use coban. I was just trying to eliminate that expense, w/ something washable. So much for that. Awww, there’s that great pull again. This thing is a beast!!!!!