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Are my ligs just to strong???

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Are my ligs just to strong???

I’ve been hanging for about 5 hours a week for a month and haven’t seen any gains. I know that’s a short amount of time, but it seems like enough given other gains. I have a Bib and I’m going BTC, 3 sets of 20 minutes. I generally start with 17lbs and work down to 8lbs. on the last set. On top of this I’m doing manual stretches whenever I hit the restroom.

Do I need more weight, more time? Okay, the simple answer is both, but I’m looking for a little wisdom.

Golarge

What is your LOT?


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Sorry, forgot that part. My LOT varies around about 8:30 to 9:30.

Ok, doesn’t sounds like you should be rushing to do hanging in the tunica specific angles yet. Trying wouldn’t hurt though. If you get a good stretch while hanging with upper angles, why not go that way? After all, no matter how strong belief I have in the LOT theory, it’s just a theory. What feels good, usually is.

You see, I’m really still a newbie in hanger business and mainly try to solve these kind of issues with common sense, common knowledge of PE and the knowledge provided by this forum. Bib would know better, this is just me giving you first aid. ;)

Do you feel the stretch in ligs or tunica? Get sore?

What I would say now is: Patience. Some people don’t seem to get any gains until some really heavy poundage. The most important thing is to patiently build the load, not to rush things and injure yourself. When you feel ready, add weight.
And you’re right, one month isn’t that long.

What kind of PE history do you have?


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

When I hang BTC I feel the pull right at the pubic bone. When I’ve tried hanging straight out the pull seems come more from an inch or two out from the base, mainly on the sides of the lig.

My history is pretty varied. I started PE in Feb of 2001. Since then I’ve pulled, pumped, jelqed, sqeezed, PowerJelq’d, hung and most recently used an ADS device. I think there’s merit to the ADS if you can do it for 9+ hours a day, which I can’t. Of the other methods I’ve done them off and on over the past 2.5 years, giving each about 3-4 months before losing interest for lack of gains. My total gains in this time period have been aroung 1/8 to 1/4 in length.

Right now I’m only hanging and stretching as I want length.

G

Sounds right! As long as you feel the pull where you are supposed to feel it, you are directing the stretch right. The gains WILL follow. Hang in there! As Bib said: Everybody has a breaking point. Increasing the weight, when needed, you will find yours. You’ve found the way to attack your ligs, now stick to it.

By your history, I would dare to say, that you have some trouble keeping motivated? This forum is perfect for it. Talk about stuff that trouble you, listen to other people, study and teach.

You remember to warm-up before hanging, right?


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Base,

You’re right on all accounts. Procrastination is a constant battle for me in all parts of my life. But this forum definitely does keep me motivated when I see so many others who are positve. And, yes…HEAT! I just discovered the difference that heat makes in manual stretching. I’ve read for years about the warm up, but it never really set in until I read a string on heat here just a few weeks ago.

Thanks!

G

No problem. Hope I was of some help. Again, if you want a more scientific approach, contact Bib or any of the veteran hangers. PMs serve their purpose. :up:


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

Golarge,

Are you decreasing the weights because you are experiencing/developing actual fatigue? The reason I ask is that, in my own experience, and from what I read from most others, three sets seem like a short period of time to go from 17 to 8 pounds due to actually fatigue. Of course there will be exceptions. Just curious.

MX


Started: 2/03, Finished: 5/06, Total Gains: 1.375” BPEL 1.5” EG, Details: Progress after a year or longer off?

Only those who attempt the absurd will achieve the impossible—M. C. Escher


Last edited by MX : 08-09-2003 at .

golarge,

Five hours per week for what, 4.3 weeks? Maybe 22 hours? PE does not work that way. In order to permanently change the tissues, it takes time. The fewer hours per week, the more weeks it will take. You have to develope a lot of patience, and resolve.

Bigger

MX,

I’m dropping weight because of fatigue and/or pain around the head. Sometimes this is from just a bad wrap job.

Regarding time, I’m trying to work in as much hang time as possible, but supplementing with manual stretching whenever possible. I’d say I do about 3-5 five minute stretching sessions throughout the day.

G

Golarge,

It sounds like a hanger/attachment problem. Until you get that straightened out, you’re just wasting time. The hanger, and it’s attachment, should never be the limiting factor. When done correctly, everything inside the hanger and up into the head should be totally comfortable. You should just feel a nice, firm comfortable pull. All fatigue /soreness should develop in the tunica and ligs.

Once you get that squared away, you’re going to need a lot more patience and/or volume.

MX


Started: 2/03, Finished: 5/06, Total Gains: 1.375” BPEL 1.5” EG, Details: Progress after a year or longer off?

Only those who attempt the absurd will achieve the impossible—M. C. Escher

Go large,

My experience has been much the same as yours. No significant gains. I just recently discovered that if I used an underwrap of seatshirt material, softside down, what I thought was fatigue went away and I could hang higher weights. I still feel no fatigue after 3 or more hrs hanging, and I’m using 20# BTC. BIB suggsted still more weight.

The point I was trying to make is that although I’d tried various underwraps(baby sox, non-self adhesive ace bandage,etc) it was only when I went to the sweatshirt material that I found max comfort.

Just wish the hell I could get “in fatigue”.. Good luck.

Surfer1

Surfer,

Thanks, I hadn’t thought of that. I’ve been using a strip of cut up T-shirt and theraband for wrap. I’ll give the sweatshirt material a try. That’s what’s great about this forum, the simplest ideas can work for lots of people.

G

Surfer1,

Is your sweatshirt wrap a strip or just a clothe you place around your penis? What are the demensions of the strip or clothe?

G

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