Phallosan Forte: 6 Months Test

Hey, sorry I havent been around for a while, some clown on here put me off for a while. I didnt stop PE though, so here are my results.

Month three:

SFL: + 0.2
NBPFL: 0
NBPEL: 0
BPEL: 0.
MSFG: 0
MSEG: 0

Month 4
SFL: + 0
NBPFL: 0
NBPEL: 0
BPEL: 0.
MSFG: 0
MSEG: 0

Well, im 1200 hours in now and pretty much nothing. Perhaps some stretched flaccid, I think 0.5cm in total. But nothing else, as it is all within tolerance and measurement error (to to ambience, etc).
Sorry if this puts a dampner on your excitement, I just try to be honest. If you go along the same path, I wish you the best of luck! Myself, i’m considering putting on the SG I have had gathering dust these past months…

I find that the extenders with metal bars and springs work well. Maybe the ones without springs and use an adjustable thread and bolt work to. I do have one kind of like the Phallosan Forte, and it did not do much besides give me a good ligament stretch at the base of the penis. Ligaments seem to return to normal when not regularly exercised. I do a lot of prestretch, non new guy clamping, and very advanced clamped bends and stretches, before putting on the extender. I don’t have new results yet because I’m just getting back into the swing of it but it seems very good so far wearing the extender for an hour or a little more per a day, and with days off once or twice a week when I want to go out all night long. The key is to not kill you dick such that morning wood is always existent, or achieving full rock hard boner with minor stimulation. Also, jerking off kills my results and so does a shifty diet. Also, get the best nights sleep you can. And, do compound movement/lifts to boost your hormones. And whatever do don’t fast or go super low calorie and do PE.

Have you personaly had good experiences? I actually have the SizeGenetics, just did not have a good experience trying to get the damn thing on, and the PF was so much easier to use. I do plan on using it soon though, I think im wasting my time with the PF.
So, you say you only wear the rod extender for an hour per day? I am interested in your results! Can you share them, what have your experiences been so far?
And no worries, I always have morning wood, and many night-woods too :D

So, I am considering getting into clamping next year, have you gained anything permanent from it?

Overall great advice, thanks! But I would have to re-consider the fasting thing. Fasting has been shown to increase HGH and test levels, so this can be a bit ambiguous in how to interpret it.

I do have gains. I’ve been a member for years and have performed PE off and on. Jelqs and clamping gave me a lot of girth and some length. But I ended up with and hour glass shape and a turkey neck on my dick. The extender helped reduce the turkey neck and eliminate the indentation hour glass shape in the middle of my dick. Went from an average measurement of 14.5 cm to 16.5 non bone pressed. That’s 16 to 18. bone pressed. I seem to vary by a 0.5 to 1 cm depending on how my guts feel. It I don’t measure my dick daily anymore lol.

When I first got it I wore it for 3 to 4 hours daily, occasionally more, up to 8, but I’d get so sore and edema. Then hit a wall and had to break from extending. This is what gave me some length, reduced the turkey neck and reduced the hour glass shape.

Started rigerous clamping and manual stretch’s and literally broke my dick a few times to the point is shriveled up like raisin and I could not get a boner, or even bleeding out my pee hole when I had a boner ( leakage). I was going hard for the gains. I got my base girth upto 7 inches with aggressive clamping, 8 minuet reps for 3 to 10 sets daily. I also incorporated light hanging and heat to really stretch my ligs before extending.

Took a break and lost some of my gains. Got back into it and before I knew it I was getting longer again using the extender and clamping and clamped bends. Now I’m back at it, clamping about 8 to 20 minuets daily. And then extending for about an hour.

All the PE stuff I learned on thunders. But I also learn not on thunders that you don’t need a huge dick to please a women, as most of them use a vibrator against inches in. Very few shove something huge in there regularly. So if you quite keep that in mind and just work on being an awesome and thoughtful person everyday, and maxout your finger, tongue, and hold your nut game.

They say fasting boosts HGH but you won’t gain muscle on a water fast or significantly reduced calorie diet ( assuming your not that guy who eats only nuts, berries, leaves, and fatty fish daily in one meal ( we are talking super clean eating without getting diarrhea or constipation, not all of us are special, and then you have to also take into consideration that not all calories are equal
( due to poor measurement) and the fda fucked all that up because they think it would be too difficult for the average person.)) but enough asides, when you fast your body can literally eat damaged tissue, and PE damages your dicks internal structures. If you were hurt you wouldn’t intentionally fast thru it, you’d eat to heal. The body will preserve muscle during a fast the best it can, depending on your genes.

Very glad to hear jelqing and clamping gave you some great results. Personally I came here mostly for information about girth training, as mine is a little on the low side of average while my length on the upper side of average. This gives me the dreaded thought of the concept “pencil dick” !!
Interesting to hear the extender helped reduce the turkey neck - I have always had once but did not notice it until last year when I started PE and paid more attention to whats down there. I hope the same happens for me, I have been contemplating surgical removal. It’s cheap and very effective (check out Bobikar’s thread, genuine guy, real pics).

Your length gains are great, was that all from using the extender?

Haha I used to measure daily… Still do sometimes! Especially now I’m interested in marking my SFL and learning how that changes. But I’m getting tired of measuring so often, I might just stop for a couple of months and hope for some thing dramatic next time I reach for that ruler.

Your scale of wearing the rod extender is exactly how I planned to. Beginning with 2-4 hours in a day, then moving up to 6, then 8, then 10 and if at all possible then 12. But i’m not banking on that, I do hope for 8 hours though, and then wear the PF for 8 as well to maintain it’s extended reach.

Yeesh, the breaking your dick thing sounds terrifying, but had to laugh at the raisin concept! It’s a funny thought in my head, but I imagine in reality it must’ve been nerve-wracking to think you busted it. Still, I can appreciate going hard for gains, and in your case it seems to have overall worked!

Back to clamping - so, you clamped daily for 8 minutes at a time, 3-10 times each day? Damn, like in one session or spaced throughout the day?
Clamped bends sounds absolutely terrifying though! I would like to advise about clamping above 15 minutes as I heard many times this is where the cells tend to die/dick goes blue but you seem to know what you’re doing :)

It’s completely true. In fairness although myself and my partner have great sex, she doesn’t come from penetration even nearly as hard as external, clitoral stimulation. I think this is like most women. Haha great wise words right there, 100% with you ^^ !

I know you wrote a lot already and I really appreciate that but could I be a pain and asked you three things?

1: Did you do your jelqing/clamping and extending routine at the same time, or one and then the other?
2. How long and days per week, overall time did it take for your girth gains and what exactly was your routine?
3. How long and days per week, overall time did it take for your rod-extending length gains and what was your routine?

With this information, I will use it to hopefully improve my own routine in the near-future and cross my fingers for some results…!

My routine was not so strict. I can’t completely say that all length gains are from extending. Because I would initially use clamps or hang weights to warm up and stretch my penis out to the max, then wear the extender for 2 to 4 hours. Typical 3 hours but definitely more than one hour. I would do it everyday essentially, but I did miss days do to life. In a sense, only as much as I could take odd deal with, without losing my social life.

I think that warming up helped me reduce total time having to wear the extender. It’s very passive and jelqing can yield good/better results with good form, but that’s hard, and might have caused the indentations that I corrected with the extender. I never extended without doings everything else because it did not fatigue my penis as good as other activities.

I did do a lot of jelqing and clamping at different times in my life. Sometimes one independent from the other. The results were good, erection quality became poor or worse if I over did it ( back to breaking my dick lol). This is definitely where my girth gains came from. Various jelqing, jelqing strangle holds, and dangerous clamping, excessive number of clamps all the way up the shaft.

My original routine with the clamps, I would use one or two at the base to get super hard and then Kegel for 8 minuets. Sometimes I lost my erection and would have to stop the timer until I got it back. I would then warm my penis up and pull on it and slap it on my thigh to get the feeling back into it and then repeat the clamping up to 3 times. Then I would use hot water and a wash cloth or warm cup or water to relax the tissue after all that torture. I learned that I got the most gains from where the clamps were at the base of the penis. That’s when I decided to use clamps all the way up the shaft, and this works better than anything I ever done as long as I don’t kill my erecttion quality. I don’t think this works in the head of the penis that effectively, as nothing has changed there for me. I’ve been using this method as of late, with an hour of extending afterwards and I think I might be getting good results I’m going to keep it up till April 2019 to determine if I get impressive and permanent results. I don’t recommend my routine, but it works for me and has helped my break past my limits. I hope I answered all your questions. I know I tend to ramble.

I tried the PS a while back. I used the tension anywhere from the green to red. I would wear it pretty much all day. I never got any results (may a better looking flaccid hang). I am currently using the SIZEWARRIOR weight hanging system. I believe this is the best way to go for me. I have been using this system for 6-8 months and only use it for 1 hour per day (four 15 minute hanging sessions with 5 minute rests). Since I am only using for 1 hour, I have gone with more weight than recommended. I have experienced, so far, between 1/4”-1/2” gain in length. Haven’t seen any girth change but I am clamping with Jelq /clamping rings now.

That sounds like a very aggressive routine for a new member. How long have you been doing PE?

Whoa, wait. Clamping for a warm-up?? Although, this does open up a few concepts… Completely stretching out your member than extending it. I like this idea. I tried to do something similar with the BathMate but it had zero effect whatsoever, never tried clamping but next year when I give it a go, heck, I might just put the extender on for a bit and see if it works. Would also help me stay in the darn thing.

So to say for girth basically just jelq, Uli sometimes and then clamp the hell out of it? This was pretty much my plan for the future as well, so I will pray to get your gains! But what is a strangle-hold? Is it a Uli? Or like a Horse440?
I ruptured a superficial vessel in my foreskin from a Horse440 once. No biggie, but kinda scary at the same time.

Well, I have two clamps - i’ll write this down and give it a go next year! Working my way up, of course. Don’t want to break the poor thing!
It’s strange you say that - any people I have read information from also say that the clamping gains are mostly where the clamps are put. How interesting… I can see your logic in placing the clamps elsewhere and higher up. So, SO glad to hear it actually worked too!

For the head of your penis, have you ever tried a Sadsak? (I think it’s called this). It’s supposed to increase the glans size. I think it may actually work, I did some before for a month and although I did not measure, I cant help but feel its a tiny bit bigger. I could be just creating the illusion for myself though, but might be worth a try!

Your reply was perfect, thanks man. Keep me updated? Definitely interested in the wisdom you have, especially as I was already planning by chance to pretty much follow those footsteps in the near-future.

The official PF team state to make sure not to go into the red “red means stop” and to stay in the light green section, or the end of the dark green. However if you ask me, more force - more gains. Not that I have gained anytging really, yet… I think the PF is some overpriced junk. I only have to say literally EXACTLY what you said about wearing it different ways, and getting nothing except potential flaccid hang (even perhaps temporary, who knows).

Stay with us wantnot, I think you have much valuable information! Really interested in that SIZEWARRIOR you mention, i’m going for length now (but failing) so i might try this out. Next year I want to go for girth, but only after length is successful. So essentially you have worn it for around 2000 hours and gained around 1cm? Overall this is not bad, considering. What weight were/are you using?

I’ll look up sadsak. Home Depot now sells cable clamps, the plastic cuffs type in or near the electrical section. Get the 2 inch clamps and add socks or baby socks around your dick for protection, traction and to build up your size to apply pressure. I generally get semi hard or better before putting the first clamp on, and make sure I get it all the way to the base before securing tightly. I alternate each clamp left and right all the way up or as much as I can take. Once my erection starts to subside I start over.
For bends or squeezing I’ll use fewer clamps. They tend to break, so buy many.
I use manual stretching and Jelqs as a warm up and warm down or just finish a routine. With clamping, ulis or horse, and gradually increase the intensity, it has to be comfortable but also feel like a good stretch. I use gentle tugging to get hard.
I tried pumping in the past but I would get this guild build up under the skin that was counter productive, and made extending uncomfortable.

Have you given Jelqs a try? For about an hour a day. My dick is abused and toughened by the years of torture. Never to full throttle. Take your sweet time. Every time I was injured is because I did something new too intensely. And you have to give your member a break sometimes. Like today and yesterday I could barely extend comfortably, so I just put it to the side and relaxed instead, with the exception of several tight griped stretches with both hands, one at the base one at the head and pulling tightly but leaving my ligaments out of it, because you can break that too apparently if you pull too hard.

LightningZee,

I’ve got Phallosan less than two months ago and have communicated extensively with their support during this time. According to my understanding, reading your posts, including your description of various difficulties and your routine, it seems that if you passed this info to their support, it’s almost certain that they would advise you that you will see no gains. Not only that, but you might get injured. I highly recommend you communicate with their support, if you have not done so already.

Based on my own personal experience of being overzealous, trying to rush things, the only achievement I got (from hanging) was injury and no gains.

The general idea, to my understanding is to get a decent, light, stretch over several hours. There should be absolutely no pain what so ever. Red zone should be avoided, for sure if you stretch for hours and have been using it just for a few months. They have experience with 6 hours, 12 hours is not necessarily better if you are going beyond green. It might be, of course, but there should never be any sort of pain or issues.

I guess it’s similar to the different views in pumping, between those who think it’s good to get to 15hg ASAP and those that say that 2-5hg is best and just for 10 minutes or 20 minutes, while reducing vacuum intermittently. One can also actively stretch for 6 hours, then do a passive stretch for several hours following the assumption that it’s better to heal while slightly stretched.

There is also a video showing on how to adjust the ring so the “stretch” is not felt at the contact between the ring and the shaft. Note also, that it’s not necessary to have the whole glands inside the bell, or have high vacuum, unlike pumping, the only purpose is to keep things in place.

Just my 0.02 cents, sorry if I have misunderstood your posts and your routine! Wish you good luck.

In America, yeah but I’m in Switzerland. I don’t think they exist outside of the US ^^
But it’s fine, easy enough to get online and I got a couple a few months ago, just been working on length for now. But if the clamps really break so easily, sounds like i’d better buy a couple more! I thought they were much more sturdy, Thanks for this advice, gonna be helpful so I don’t stop the clamping routine mid-way while waiting for more to arrive if mine do break. I’m gonna save your message to a word document and read it again when the time comes. Thanks for the detailed information!

I do jelq, around 20 minutes in the morning before the PF goes on, and 15 minutes afterwards before bed. I take a day off each Sunday, which is more than enough. It never really felt fatigue anyway, not even in the slightest until my new adjustments to my routine. I have since discovered that feeling, so this is why I say what I do. You’re completely right about the new things though, I ruptured a minor vessel in my foreskin (much more minor than it sounds) from Ulis which i performed too strongly, too soon.

Yeesh, yeah torn ligaments are a thing. Never heard of someone tugging so hard to tear their ligament attaching their penis though, It is entirely possible and probably has happened.

Yeah, I was communicating with them too, in fact they stated I would certainly be seeing length improvements in time. They said although the hours were ideal, the time frame was not and I must continue for some months exactly as I have been doing. I am interested in where in my posts I sound as if I may get an injury?

I have’nt been overzealous with this, I did my reasearch in great depth as I always do before trying something. If you are referring to my target of 12 hours, I can show you plenty of reasons to support this number, if this is your consideration? I have made minor adjustments to the routine over time which I have not updated, I should get on that when I have more time, perhaps I am giving an impression of continuing something for longer than I am, as I lack the update here… I’d better read my own thread! :)

I think you’re completely right here, a decent, light stretch over a while would be ideal. However, I do not really feel any stretch at all, even when in the yellow for an entire 12 hours. I mean it is extened, clearly, but I feel there is insufficient traction for this. Nonetheless, I continued doing it correctly, regardless of my thoughts, as I wanted to do it as “by the book” as possible. The only pain that ever occured was on the first third of the penis shaft, where the ring contacted the penis, which they never talk about. This was alleviated by rotating the belt some, and has not happend for some time, and it wont now I know how to prevent it. But boy was it painful.

Ah, right the BM. I havent used that for some time now. 2 months, perhaps a bit more. I have been working on removing some discoloration that I got before from Ulis and BM, and not using the BM has definitely helped with this. I’ll use it later when doing my girth work. It was still a good idea to use with the PF, and probably does have it’s place in the routine I was doing, but has no place in removing discoloration, except potentially with epsom salts but I’d rather stick to what I know here :D
But the getting to 15hg as quick as possible sounds like asking for trouble.

Yeah, the PF team told me this also, however I find it better to at least be in 75%. This way, theres a bit more give for when some suction is acidentally lost, which can happen when going from seated to standing position.

It’s cool, I liked reading your message, thanks for chiming in! ^^

LightningZee,

I think that they state on their official info — they have advised me the same via email — that using too strong of a pull would cause an inflammatory reaction and that would be counterproductive. Now, I’m not so certain about the scientific reasoning, but that’s their claim regarding the expected results, based on their experience. I got the impression from your post that you were going too strong, as you mentioned pain and “The official PF team state to make sure not to go into the red “red means stop” and to stay in the light green section, or the end of the dark green. However if you ask me, more force - more gains”

BTW, they also mention that taking finasteride/propecia might delay gains, something I 100% agree with.

BTW2: there’s this chart around by someone who took statistics of available data on the forums and came to the conclusion the peak benefit duration is 11 hours per day while somehow combining with pumping. Obviously biased and what not, but it’s somewhere on the forums.