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Penimaster Pro or Phallosan?

Originally Posted by morbidangel
Ykm123321 Do you feel you can wear the Phallosan for a longer period of time, and which did you find easier to hide with clothes on? I been wanting to get a phallosan for a while but it’s high price, and not even able to find a used one for sale on starting to lean towards the penimaster pro.

Maybe but not much longer. I just had the PMP on for 2 hours and 20 minutes at high tension. Fluid retention was gone in 5 minutes with about a minute of massage to the glans. FLuid retention is greater with the PF but it still isn’t horrible. The O ring that the PF uses get uncomfortable and that can happen anywhere from 30 -120 minutes depending on your tension level.


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Originally Posted by quim92
You are stretching with lenghtmaster, using pf at night , pmp at day. Hanging and pumping. All that? Am I missing anything?

I haven’t been using the lengthmaster much since getting the PMP. Have been very inconsistent with it. That will be changing though. Yes to the PF, PMP, and pumping with the BM XX40 every night for 10 to 20 minutes. I also use VacHanger3 to hang. That has been more experimental but I will be incorporating that into a routine as well. Also have mixed in an X4 labs extender with the quad support. When it comes to traditional extenders I really like the quad support system.


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Quad system?

Ever tried manuals? Ever taken a decon break?


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I’ve used a Vacextender 4 for up to ten hours with about four bathroom breaks. About half that time was straight out because the wife wasn’t home and that is the most comfortable position. The other half of the time it was in my baggy pants. Down and left, down and right, occasionally straight up (the least tolerable position). Ten hours is not really painful but it somehow begins to get on your nerves. Five to six hours straight is a piece of cake. Do you guys feel the PMP is capable of similar comfort at that amount of time?

I really like the idea of the glans enclosure. Already have a nice ‘shroom head. Maybe I can get a super ‘shroom.

Originally Posted by quim92
Quad system?
Ever tried manuals? Ever taken a decon break?

If you google X4 labs the quad support head attachment is on their site.

I perform manual stretches but with a lengthmaster and resistant band set up. I do this so I don’t have to use my hands at all and the stretch is stronger. My entire PE career was a decon break up until the end of last summer when I got serious about it. Since then no breaks.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
I’ve used a Vacextender 4 for up to ten hours with about four bathroom breaks. About half that time was straight out because the wife wasn’t home and that is the most comfortable position. The other half of the time it was in my baggy pants. Down and left, down and right, occasionally straight up (the least tolerable position). Ten hours is not really painful but it somehow begins to get on your nerves. Five to six hours straight is a piece of cake. Do you guys feel the PMP is capable of similar comfort at that amount of time?

I really like the idea of the glans enclosure. Already have a nice ‘shroom head. Maybe I can get a super ‘shroom.

Yes it is capable of the same hours. I wore mine from 9am to 10:30pm today. Removed it for no more the 5 minutes at a time if I had to use the bathroom. I don’t usually get in this many hours but the farthest I went today was the balcony lol. Just a day of hanging in for me and getting some work done.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
I’ve used a Vacextender 4 for up to ten hours with about four bathroom breaks. About half that time was straight out because the wife wasn’t home and that is the most comfortable position. The other half of the time it was in my baggy pants. Down and left, down and right, occasionally straight up (the least tolerable position). Ten hours is not really painful but it somehow begins to get on your nerves. Five to six hours straight is a piece of cake. Do you guys feel the PMP is capable of similar comfort at that amount of time?

I really like the idea of the glans enclosure. Already have a nice ‘shroom head. Maybe I can get a super ‘shroom.

So it seems vacextender can be even better than pmp?
What is your previous experience to vacextender? Do you complement it with anything now?


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Originally Posted by ykm123321
If you google X4 labs the quad support head attachment is on their site.

I perform manual stretches but with a lengthmaster and resistant band set up. I do this so I don’t have to use my hands at all and the stretch is stronger. My entire PE career was a decon break up until the end of last summer when I got serious about it. Since then no breaks.

Yes it is capable of the same hours. I wore mine from 9am to 10:30pm today. Removed it for no more the 5 minutes at a time if I had to use the bathroom. I don’t usually get in this many hours but the farthest I went today was the balcony lol. Just a day of hanging in for me and getting some work done.

So how much dedicated stretching with the lenghtmaster + pmp + pf you got. 0.5 inches is good but with all those devises doesn’t look like it is that much.


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Originally Posted by quim92
So it seems vacextender can be even better than pmp?
What is your previous experience to vacextender? Do you complement it with anything now?

No, I wouldn’t say it is better. Maybe the PMP is better in finish and function, overall quality. German engineering, if that means anything. But Vacextender gets the job done and is less expensive. Good customer service.

I tried hanging with five pounds and then six pounds for a few days and my penis became stiffer and more resistant to stretching. So I’m back to extending, jelquing and manual stretches during bathroom breaks or on days I can’t wear the extender.

Originally Posted by quim92

So how much dedicated stretching with the lenghtmaster + pmp + pf you got. 0.5 inches is good but with all those devises doesn’t look like it is that much.

I have only been using the PMP for a bit over a month. I have had the PF since november. Around the holidays I only used a Bathmate besides experimenting with the PMP. The 1/2” came before the PMP. I haven’t measure since before getting the PMP. I haven’t been using the lengthmaster consistently. I will be getting back into a strong routine soon though. I have been experimenting with different tools a lot lately.


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Originally Posted by Ectospasm
No, I wouldn’t say it is better. Maybe the PMP is better in finish and function, overall quality. German engineering, if that means anything. But Vacextender gets the job done and is less expensive. Good customer service.

I tried hanging with five pounds and then six pounds for a few days and my penis became stiffer and more resistant to stretching. So I’m back to extending, jelquing and manual stretches during bathroom breaks or on days I can’t wear the extender.

How do you know it became stiffer and resistant? How long did you stick with hanging to really know it didn’t work? Doesn’t stretches get your dick stiffer too?


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Originally Posted by quim92
How do you know it became stiffer and resistant? How long did you stick with hanging to really know it didn’t work? Doesn’t stretches get your dick stiffer too?

Because everytime I went back to extend the following day after the hanging, I had to back the extender off to even get it on. I’m not saying hanging doesn’t work, just that it caused an interruption in my progress with the extender, which is my primary dedicated tool. The hanging effort was a trial not a committment. No, stretching seems to keep the unit pliable and not stiff.

Between the PF and the PMP which is most comfortable and which can be worn longest?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
Because everytime I went back to extend the following day after the hanging, I had to back the extender off to even get it on. I’m not saying hanging doesn’t work, just that it caused an interruption in my progress with the extender, which is my primary dedicated tool. The hanging effort was a trial not a committment. No, stretching seems to keep the unit pliable and not stiff.

Thanks man. Any gains with the extender or before that?


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on the verge or ordering a PF unless anyone with experience with both say otherwise.


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

Bump.

I am with NeverEnough9.

I am seeking the most COMFORTABLE all-day wear. I have tried LG Hanger and it couldn’t get it past 7.5 lb no matter what kind of wrap I use. I get too frustrated with high-force vacuum-based hangers. On the other hand, I have enjoyed wearing my old Vac-2 extender. While it is comfortable, the extender device itself is quite bulky for walking or sitting down in public. And the Vac-2 doesn’t have a measurement gauge to tell what force I am using.

So far I am leaning towards Phallosan Forte because of the force indicator and comfort level. I find it is critical to track how much force is being used.

The only reason I am also considering PeniMasterPro is because of it’s super slim design. The air pump is detachable so there is no bulk at all. But the lack of measurable force can be a big concern for me.

Anyone has an input on both devices?


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