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Penimaster Pro or Phallosan?

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
So far, I haven’t had a problem with getting a good seal, just as long as I apply the device correctly.

Speaking of the glans design, each time I take the device off my glans is really pronounced. Over time, I hope that makes my glans more mushroom shaped!

Do you use the hand pump ball of the hose system to apply the glans cap? I’m just wondering b/c I have trouble using the ball pump and find the hose to be much easier.

If you really want to isolate the glans the PMP is the #1 product for that. You can use the glans cap alone for glans enlargement. To do this you remove the diaphragm and attach the sluice as your normally would to the glans cap. Then apply the glans cap as you normally would. Using the hose system to apply it you can manipulate the vacuum pressure more easily. You have to get a feel for this and take your time trying it out. I have only done this briefly for about 20 minutes. It worked very well and once I hit 8” in length I amd going to use it for increasing glans size.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

To you guys who have the PMP. Can you do manual stretching with the head attachment on, and just pull with your hands to make manual stretching a bit easier (sometimes I have troubles with my grip)? Thank you!

The hose system for PMP is highly recommended but I see the charge an additional $19. Quite an expensive system for sure.

How long can you wear a penimaster for?

Originally Posted by ykm123321
Do you use the hand pump ball of the hose system to apply the glans cap? I’m just wondering b/c I have trouble using the ball pump and find the hose to be much easier.

If you really want to isolate the glans the PMP is the #1 product for that. You can use the glans cap alone for glans enlargement. To do this you remove the diaphragm and attach the sluice as your normally would to the glans cap. Then apply the glans cap as you normally would. Using the hose system to apply it you can manipulate the vacuum pressure more easily. You have to get a feel for this and take your time trying it out. I have only done this briefly for about 20 minutes. It worked very well and once I hit 8” in length I amd going to use it for increasing glans size.

Yeah, I just have the hand ball pump. I use a 2 step approach by sucking the head of my penis in twice, if that makes sense. Basically, I squeeze the ball and pull the head in once, remove the ball, squeeze it again, and suck out any residual air. That gives me a really good seal.

I’ve noticed how pronounced my head is after an extender session. It really makes a mushroom shape for your glans. So far, I’ve only had the device for a few weeks, so I haven’t seen any permanent increase in my glans size.

How long have you had your PMP? How many hours per day are you wearing it? Any gains yet?


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by grow or die
To you guys who have the PMP. Can you do manual stretching with the head attachment on, and just pull with your hands to make manual stretching a bit easier (sometimes I have troubles with my grip)? Thank you!

You totally can. I sometimes do some manual stretches before getting into the device as like a warm up. The glans head attachment is a nice size and easy to grip. You could even attach the leg harness strap for a better grip.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by morbidangel
How long can you wear a penimaster for?

I can comfortably wear mine for 1.5 to 2 hours straight without a break, no numbness, and my penis doesn’t get cold.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by ykm123321
I have both the Phallosan Forte and the PeniMaster Pro. I’ve had the Phallosan since October 2014 and have been using the PMP for a bit over a month. Both are great tools. My preference is for the PMP though.

With the PF there is only the option to stretch side to side unless modifications are made. I used suspenders to perform OTS stretching with the PF. I also found an extender on ebay that ended up being great for attaching the PF bell to and creating a vacextender. The PF/extender was very bulky though so not at all for public wearing. It also causes more fluid retention then the PMP. When I first got my PF they still came with the old flimsy condoms prone to breaking. Mine never broke but I switched over to an ABS silicone sleeve and it was much easier to put on and take off the PF with the sleeve then it was with the PF condom. I now only use my PF at night as an ANS. I don’t use any belts it just keep my penis in a lengthened state.

I have the PMP complete set. It comes with the extender and the belt system. I hardly ever use the belt system just b/c the extender is very concealable under the clothes I wear. The glans cap is small and very easy to apply and remove. I don’t use the ball pump to apply the glans cap. I use the hose system. The ball pump is a little trickier to use. The hose is extremely simple and allows for more precise control of vacuum pressure. The the ball I am never able to get enough pressure. It uses a latex diaphragm to reduce fluid retention and a latex sluice to help hold the glans in the glans cap. They are fragile. I have never had a sluice tear. Just had one stretch out and my glans would slowly slip out a bit but never completely. I have had 2 diaphragms tear. These were the small and medium size diaphragms. The large size diaphragm I am using now holds up very well but is a bit stretched. The diaphragm does a great job of reduce fluid retention. I always have a bit of fluid retention but it goes away within 10 minutes or less if I massage the glans. Having to purchase more diaphragms and sluices is unavoidable but I believe it is worth it as it is the most comfortable extender I have worn. I am not sure how to buy more yet. I don;t see the option to buy just diaphragms and sluices on their site. I will send and email for this info.

Hope this helps. Have you purchased either the PF or PMP yet?

What is your experience previous to these two devices?
So you are using pf at night and pmp on day time? Any other PE ? Any gains?


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Originally Posted by grow or die
To you guys who have the PMP. Can you do manual stretching with the head attachment on, and just pull with your hands to make manual stretching a bit easier (sometimes I have troubles with my grip)? Thank you!

I never have but you could. The head attachment would make it easier to grab and hold onto the glans I don’t use it or the PF for manual stretching b/c the high vacuum pressure that pulling hard will cause can lead to blister which I have experience mildly because I was careful.

I use a lengthmaster to do my stretching. I have a very comfortable wrap I use and besides dry skin haven’t suffered form an injury. Lotion solves the dry skin issue I had with it.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
You totally can. I sometimes do some manual stretches before getting into the device as like a warm up. The glans head attachment is a nice size and easy to grip. You could even attach the leg harness strap for a better grip.

That is a good idea. I will do a few light stretches before putting on the PMP from now on.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
I can comfortably wear mine for 1.5 to 2 hours straight without a break, no numbness, and my penis doesn’t get cold.

Same goes for me. When I up the tension it has gotten slightly uncomfortable on the coronal ridge for me b/c the increased tension makes the glans cap hold tighter and the sluice presses into the skin harder. But even then I can wear it for 60 minutes without an issue and not have any numbness.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Originally Posted by quim92
What is your experience previous to these two devices?
So you are using pf at night and pmp on day time? Any other PE ? Any gains?

You can read a bit about my experience in my introduction post below. In that thread in post #5 you can see the gains I have made. I will write a more detailed post in the near future.

Experienced in PE but new to Thunder’s Place

I also use a Penilizer to jelq and a Bathmate X40 Xtreme. I use an electric pump between hanging sessions but my hanging session have been very inconsistent for the last month or so. I use a lengthmaster and a VacHanger3. Experimenting with tools has become a hobby of mine. I will get into a consistent routine again but right now I am having fun experimenting. I have also used the slider extender and malehanger2. And a SnakeHanger. Size Genetics. X4 labs extender. Probably others as well.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Ykm123321 Do you feel you can wear the Phallosan for a longer period of time, and which did you find easier to hide with clothes on? I been wanting to get a phallosan for a while but it’s high price, and not even able to find a used one for sale on starting to lean towards the penimaster pro.

Originally Posted by ykm123321
That is a good idea. I will do a few light stretches before putting on the PMP from now on.

How often do you use the leg harness? I haven’t used it yet. Any tips?


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

You are stretching with lenghtmaster, using pf at night , pmp at day. Hanging and pumping. All that? Am I missing anything?


When conguering a golddigger you need a large bank account, when conquering a dickdigger you need a large tool. When conquering a woman you need a minimum of three things: money, class and yes: dick size. Good news are, you can actually improve in all these three aspects.

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