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Penimaster Pro or Phallosan?

Originally Posted by NeverEnough9
Do u know which is more comfortable?

No, I’ve only used the penimaster pro.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

I see. Anyone also happen to know which one is best for sensitivity whether it be affecting it negatively the least or even potentially helping increase it if possible?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

does either have any affect on FR?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

What’s FR? I don’t have enough experience with my PMP to comment on sensitivity.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

I am using the Phallosan and I think its very comfortable.
but I bougth mine used, at half the price.

You can use silicone toe caps from podologists
instead of the expensive caps the supplier wants to sell you.

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
What’s FR? I don’t have enough experience with my PMP to comment on sensitivity.

Foreskin restoration. How has your experience with the PMP been so far?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

Originally Posted by BigSchlongCH
I am using the Phallosan and I think its very comfortable.
but I bougth mine used, at half the price.

You can use silicone toe caps from podologists
instead of the expensive caps the supplier wants to sell you.

How many hours you wear a day? What have been your results so far?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

Originally Posted by NeverEnough9
Foreskin restoration. How has your experience with the PMP been so far?

So far so good, awesome quality, comfortable, no pain, no going cold, no numbness, and pretty stealth. To be fair, I’ve only had the device for about 3 weeks now, but I am enjoying it so far. I had a first generation PM for years and it helped me get my second 0.5” in erect length gains.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
So far so good, awesome quality, comfortable, no pain, no going cold, no numbness, and pretty stealth. To be fair, I’ve only had the device for about 3 weeks now, but I am enjoying it so far. I had a first generation PM for years and it helped me get my second 0.5” in erect length gains.

How long it take to make those gains?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

Originally Posted by NeverEnough9
How long it take to make those gains?

The gains came during 2 stints of consistent PE. The first 0.5” of length gains came will being consistent with the newbie routine for about 3 to 4 months. I then tried to cement my gains and continued on the newbie routine, consistently for about 2 to 3 more months. I stopped PE afterwards or at least wasn’t consistent.

After more than a year, I got back in to PE to try to reach 8” NBPEL. I started off with the newbie routine for about 3 months, then added the first generation Penimaster to my routine. In about 3 to 4 months I gained another 0.5” on erect length gains. Again, to cement my gains, I continued wearing the extender for another 3 months along with jelqs and manual stretches. I think I incorporated A- and V-stretches into my routine.

Again, after cementing my gains I stopped PE or wasn’t consistent at all. I’m back again though, hoping to get another 0.5” of BPEL gains and then I’ll go from there.

To my surprise, I haven’t lost any of my erect length gains so those extra 3 months after gaining seemed to have worked to cement my gains.

Lastly, besides extender work, I’m an avid supporter of a good jelq workout.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by xtendeddick
The gains came during 2 stints of consistent PE. The first 0.5” of length gains came will being consistent with the newbie routine for about 3 to 4 months. I then tried to cement my gains and continued on the newbie routine, consistently for about 2 to 3 more months. I stopped PE afterwards or at least wasn’t consistent.

After more than a year, I got back in to PE to try to reach 8” NBPEL. I started off with the newbie routine for about 3 months, then added the first generation Penimaster to my routine. In about 3 to 4 months I gained another 0.5” on erect length gains. Again, to cement my gains, I continued wearing the extender for another 3 months along with jelqs and manual stretches. I think I incorporated A- and V-stretches into my routine.

Again, after cementing my gains I stopped PE or wasn’t consistent at all. I’m back again though, hoping to get another 0.5” of BPEL gains and then I’ll go from there.

To my surprise, I haven’t lost any of my erect length gains so those extra 3 months after gaining seemed to have worked to cement my gains.

Lastly, besides extender work, I’m an avid supporter of a good jelq workout.

Cool man thanks. U think extending with the PMP is more affective than using it as an ads?


Start/Current: BPFSL - 8"/9", BPEL - 7.5"/8.25", NBPEL - 7"/7.75", MSEG - 5.5"/6"

All time goal: 9.5"x6.5"

So is that diaphragm on the PMP effective at sealing well? No sealing sleeve over it? I would be afraid it seems somewhat fragile too.

But, I like the head design of it. Plenty of glans room.

I have both the Phallosan Forte and the PeniMaster Pro. I’ve had the Phallosan since October 2014 and have been using the PMP for a bit over a month. Both are great tools. My preference is for the PMP though.

With the PF there is only the option to stretch side to side unless modifications are made. I used suspenders to perform OTS stretching with the PF. I also found an extender on ebay that ended up being great for attaching the PF bell to and creating a vacextender. The PF/extender was very bulky though so not at all for public wearing. It also causes more fluid retention then the PMP. When I first got my PF they still came with the old flimsy condoms prone to breaking. Mine never broke but I switched over to an ABS silicone sleeve and it was much easier to put on and take off the PF with the sleeve then it was with the PF condom. I now only use my PF at night as an ANS. I don’t use any belts it just keep my penis in a lengthened state.

I have the PMP complete set. It comes with the extender and the belt system. I hardly ever use the belt system just b/c the extender is very concealable under the clothes I wear. The glans cap is small and very easy to apply and remove. I don’t use the ball pump to apply the glans cap. I use the hose system. The ball pump is a little trickier to use. The hose is extremely simple and allows for more precise control of vacuum pressure. The the ball I am never able to get enough pressure. It uses a latex diaphragm to reduce fluid retention and a latex sluice to help hold the glans in the glans cap. They are fragile. I have never had a sluice tear. Just had one stretch out and my glans would slowly slip out a bit but never completely. I have had 2 diaphragms tear. These were the small and medium size diaphragms. The large size diaphragm I am using now holds up very well but is a bit stretched. The diaphragm does a great job of reduce fluid retention. I always have a bit of fluid retention but it goes away within 10 minutes or less if I massage the glans. Having to purchase more diaphragms and sluices is unavoidable but I believe it is worth it as it is the most comfortable extender I have worn. I am not sure how to buy more yet. I don;t see the option to buy just diaphragms and sluices on their site. I will send and email for this info.

Hope this helps. Have you purchased either the PF or PMP yet?


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Originally Posted by NeverEnough9
Cool man thanks. U think extending with the PMP is more affective than using it as an ads?

Personally, I think an extender is an ADS. When I get used to wearing the device, I will try to wear it for at least 8 hours a day. Not all at once, taking breaks, but collectively I intend to work up to 8 hours of wear a day.


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
So is that diaphragm on the PMP effective at sealing well? No sealing sleeve over it? I would be afraid it seems somewhat fragile too.
But, I like the head design of it. Plenty of glans room.

So far, I haven’t had a problem with getting a good seal, just as long as I apply the device correctly.

Speaking of the glans design, each time I take the device off my glans is really pronounced. Over time, I hope that makes my glans more mushroom shaped!


Started: 6.75" BPEL, 8" (20 cm) BPFSL (1/2015) x 5" (12.5 cm) EG; Current (7/2017): 8" (20 cm) BPEL, 8.2" (20.5 cm) BPFSL x 5.8" (14.5 cm) EG; Gains (7/2017): 1.25" (3.125 cm) EL, 0.2" (0.5 cm) BPFSL x 0.8" (2 cm) EG

Short-term goal: 8.25 (20.625 cm) BPEL, 8.3" (20.75 cm) BPFSL x 6" (15 cm) EG; Long-term goal: 9" (22.5 cm) BPEL x 6" EG

Xtended's Progress Report

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