Three hours seems to be my limit in the penimaster.
Desired
Penimaster anyone tried it?
supersizeit
Originally Posted by hughGRection
The studies that I have seen and the traction study summarized on altpenis.com claim that these traction devices increase both length and girth. I believe most of us on this site use multiple PE methods and devices though so it might be difficult for some of those who have achieved girth gains to determine whether they have come from jelqing, ULIs and horse squeezes or using this device.The studies that I have seen also claim that the test subjects wore these devices 8 - 12 hours a day. I did the math and averaged the figures quoted in several studies. I determined that if I used one of these devices exclusively that I would have to wear it between 1000 and 1500 hours in order to gain an inch in length. Some of the studies also seem to imply that since traction induces cellular growth that there is virtually no limit to the gains you can achieve.
Here is a link to a summary of one of those studies:
http://www.altp enis.com/penis_ … _research.shtml
This study claims that the research subjects gained an average of .47 centimeters (.1888 inches ) per month in Erect length and .48 centimeters in flaccid length. They also claimed that the monthly girth increase was .80cm - ( this seems very unrealistic to me after studying the PE data on this site). In addition, after using the device for six months the subjects gained 27.5% of their initial erect lengths.
Alas, I am a skeptic. Note I said skeptic and not cynic. I still bought one! It would be interesting to take a test group of volunteers from this site who were willing to wear these devices 7 days a week for 8 hours a day and report their results back to us. It would also be interesting to have two test groups, one just beginning PE with this device and one group who had been PEing long enough for growth to begin to slow notably then compare the results between the groups.
If I extrapolate from this particular "study", with a starting length of 7.5 inches I could expect to be 9.56 BPEL if I used the average percent gained over 6 months or 8.832 if I used the average length gain achieved during the test period. If I thought that were true I believe I would take a six month sabbatical!
In most of the "studies" and advertising claims though the key ingredient tends to be time. More hours = more size.
(365.25/2) = 182.625 Days in 6 months
(182.625 * 8) = 1460.8 Hours spent in traction
3.33cm/1.332 Inches Average Reported Gains for 6 month, 8 hour, 7 day per week use of device
( 1460.8/1.332 ) = 1096.697. That is approximately 1100 hours for an inch. So, according to this study, if I used a traction device exclusively 6 days a week, 4 hours a day, I might gain an inch in 46 weeks.
Here is another study that might be of interest.
If you knew you could not fail...what would you attempt to do? Female Foot Fetish Current Stats: 5/4/10 8.5BPx6.0, 7.5NBP Achieved Goal and have been on maintenance program since
2006.
hughGRection
Originally Posted by seanseattle
Hugh,
I have not seriously pursued any other method. I have tried ADS devices, the grip, jelqing; but basically I attribute most of my gains to consistent use of the penistretcher. It’s a pain to get used to, but is basically a passive device, which works for me, and I can wear it under baggy clothes at home without a major problem.Sean
Thanks. The Penimaster gets uncomfortable after about 1 to 1.5 hours but the manufacturer recommends taking it off and massaging every 60 - 90 minutes. I have found that if I do that I can put it back on quickly and go for another 60 - 90 minutes before it starts to get uncomfortable again. Although I have only been using this device for a week I get a very long flaccid hang after removing the device. The stretch feels very pleasant as well. As I continue to grow accustomed to it and perfect my wrapping technique I suspect I will be able to wear it for longer periods. I am working on a way to keep the silicone tabs pressed down so that the device is not as obvious when worn under baggy pants.
supersizeit
Originally Posted by hughGRection
I am working on a way to keep the silicone tabs pressed down so that the device is not as obvious when worn under baggy pants.
Duct tape? :)
If you knew you could not fail...what would you attempt to do? Female Foot Fetish Current Stats: 5/4/10 8.5BPx6.0, 7.5NBP Achieved Goal and have been on maintenance program since
2006.
hughGRection
Good idea. I tried using my Captain’s wrench but it makes the end of the Penimaster look like a club consealed under my pants. What’s more it adds just enough weight to make any movement of the device more pronouned. It looks very impressive; too impressive to smuggle at work!
hughGRection
Originally Posted by supersizeit
Here is another study that might be of interest.
Thanks! This is an informative thread. I had also looked at the calculator on the JES Extender site and come to a similar conclusion. The calculator on that site attributes larger gains to user’s earlier on ( before 720 hours ) then later on. I wonder if those of us who had been practicing PE prior to using that device, like myself, could expect the initial growth surge? I have been an active PEer for 7 months now and I have definitely started to plateau. The most intriguing aspect of these devices from my perspective is that growth continues ….. Your thread may have addressed another issue that I’ve been kicking around as well. Since traction devices are based on cellular growth, the creation of new tissue, and the tissue gains result in both length and girth gains would it be correct in assuming that the increase in growth or volume would be more related to a user’s starting size rather than a constant? This would appear to be the case. Some of the site calculators simply add a constant value regardless of your starting size.
Rambone
After some really good newbie gains I plateaued with the PM. It was after a couple of weeks of a break, I started gaining again. I completely beleive in deconditioning breaks.
NOt that I completely stop PE, but when I’m not PEing, I do jelqing and manual stretching.
So, if you’ve plateaued, take a break, swith your method.
hughGRection
I took a break in early January and I’m coming back into now. My biggest monthly gain ever ( 1/4”) came after taking 10 days off for a backpacking trip.
Leatherface
I agree 100%. I notice much better gains with the PM when I take a day or two off every week or so. You MUST rest.
"Look what your brother did to the door!"
None
Originally Posted by Mjinina
Did any of you guys had any gains from stretching upward (using Penimaster). It’s more comfortable that way and I just want to know if as effective as stretching downward.
Well in case I bought the Penismaster 4 moths ago and I haven’t seen any result. I was wondering if this stuff really works. Anyway I took the risk. Some people report that it works but they are also exercising, so really we don’t know if it is because the device.
I have been trying this device without exercising; I was using it for about 6 hours a day. But the unique problem is that I didn’t use the full traction, it is unsupportable for me. But anyway I am trying again. But also, I will exercise.
Somebody said that it is safe to buy this device. I think it safe the device comes in 15 days more o less. But the problem I think is that the connection is not safe(SSL), so your credit card information may be read by somebody else.
Desired
Originally Posted by Leatherface
I agree 100%. I notice much better gains with the PM when I take a day or two off every week or so. You MUST rest.
I agree with that. I take Saturday and Sunday off.
hughGRection
Originally Posted by None
Well in case I bought the Penismaster 4 moths ago and I haven’t seen any result. I was wondering if this stuff really works. Anyway I took the risk. Some people report that it works but they are also exercising, so really we don’t know if it is because the device.I have been trying this device without exercising; I was using it for about 6 hours a day. But the unique problem is that I didn’t use the full traction, it is unsupportable for me. But anyway I am trying again. But also, I will exercise.
Somebody said that it is safe to buy this device. I think it safe the device comes in 15 days more o less. But the problem I think is that the connection is not safe(SSL), so your credit card information may be read by somebody else.
The site I purchased my PM from had three options: credit card, check or money order.
Pulsar
I just ordered it, today in the morning.
Due an “apostrophe” in my address something went wrong when I submitted my order; therefore I wrote to the customer service and explained the problem. They had immediately fix the information and write back to me :)
and now..I’m scheduling my future workout, waiting for my new toy :)
hardstuff
Penimaster for sale
Few months used Penimaster now for sale, price is 99 € + shipping from Finland, like new.
Contact hardstuff@ziplip.com
Finland
bombazine
As in an earlier post a mentioned if any of you had experienced the penis plus device?
I ordered one and wore it with no discomfort for 90mins. I walked around the house sat down, stood up and generaly tried to make it come off. It didnt. Also, there was no cooling of the glands or discolouration (unlike with my penimaster). I’m not bashing the penimaster as I know the theory is sound, I just cant live with it.
I’m going to wear the PenisPlus device an hour or two a day initialy then start wearing it to work etc. Once I am convinced I can’t cut off circulation through extended use, I will sleep wearing it. (re read the last sentance).
If I can acheive this, then I really have reached a mile stone in my PE journey.
Any thoughts?
Feb 2003: 7" BPEL x 5" EG. June 2006: 9" BPEL x 6.5" EG
(6" base girth)
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