Need advice from Extender/Stretcher users

Hi PE’ers.

I am running into another road block. Let me give you a bit of my PE history. I re-started PE back in last May (2010). I started with manual PE but ended up injuring myself with a couple of hard veins and hard bumps on my upper shaft. I attributed to the lack of gain and injury to excessive edging/masturbation and pulling with semi erection. Yes, lack of mandatory rest was also a factor. Then I realized that I can’t continue performing manual exercises with erection so I bought a vacADS from Monkey in October.

I started with a combination of light hanging (2-3lbs) and ADS. After two weeks, I got another injury. My upper shaft was extremely sore due to over-use??? Then my glans was very tender due to fluid build-up. So I stopped that and rested for 2 weeks.

Then by early November, I began another manual exercise routine. It lasted until early February. The result was mixed. I might have gained 1/16” in my 3 months period. Then I wanted to implement a consistent approach so I bought a vacExtender from Monkey (another reason is that wearing the extender prevents me from browsing too much porn!).

I decided to use an extender because I want a measurable progress. I find with manual routine my force was inconsistent and I was battling with semi-erection as usual (too time consuming). The way I measure the force is by the length of rods. I would increase .2cm rod length every 3-4 weeks. I went back to vac system because it is the only way I can wear the extender; I can’t wear the nose type/strap type of extender because of my semi-erection. (yes, it’s that bad. I would have to wait 20-30 minutes before erection can subside). This time I figured out how to use the vac system properly so it was actually not bad.

Now here is the part I need help with.

From what I read, the best result with an extender is to wear it 3hr+ without any break. The force should be moderate, not too harsh. So I started my routine with a mix angle approach. For the first 3 month I was doing 4 sets throughout the day. Each set would be about 1.5-2 hr with a mix of straight-up and straight-down angle—usually half and half. During this process I feel like my flaccid length seems better. But there is no BPEL gain.

Then starting June, I started with 2 sets a day but usually double the wearing time. Instead of doing straight-down angle, I do a bit of straight-up and mostly straight-out angle as it is my shortest length (my erection points 10-11 o’ clock angle). So I would wearing 3-3.5 hr in the morning and 2-2.5 hr at night time depending on my schedules. I find my flaccid is ok. It varies a lot (but then during this time I was edging/masturbating a lot more than what I have done in the past 4 months). In the same time, I also got some silicon sleeve that I would wear in the afternoon (usually 3hr+). The rationale behind it was to keep my uni rested in elongated state.

Recently I noticed that my flaccid has been quite badly. My penis tends to firm up after an erection. I don’t feel any soreness and erection quality is not that bad. I can’t figure out why my flaccid suffers and tenses up especially after erection.

I just measured this morning and there is NO increase in BPFSL since last December. Needless to say I am very disappointed with the result after 5 months of wearing the extender and a mix of sleeve.

So I have a few questions:

1) Like I said before, I have a masturbation addiction. So in the last 10 years, I have done 2hr+ edging a day in front of porn for at least 6 days a week. Do you think my unit is GREATLY toughened due to excessive edging?
- I truly believe that my tunica is too tough to be deformed. And this is why I never had any newbie gains. And I have been doing PE for 1 year and 2 months now!!

2) If you have gained from wearing an extender, what is your routine like? Do you stick with one angle for a period of time before changing another angle? I have been doing straight-up/down/out. Is this counter productive?

***3) This is my most puzzling part. From what I read, most people show positive PI after doing PE (ie. hanging, extender, jelqing, manual.. etc). Usually flaccid is a bit more plumped and longer. This is not the case with me. I sometimes have temporary gain for 5 minutes.. sometimes I can have more plumped flaccid for a couple of hours (but never over 2hrs). And other times I have a tensed up flaccid, so I would shake my unit to loosed up. Why is my flaccid response so different given that I have been doing similar routines???

I am so close to giving up on PE. After 1 year and 2 months of trying, I still can’t figure out what works and what doesn’t work for me. If I have a consistent plumped flaccid from one type of PE, then I would have a better idea on what works for me.

Any input is appreciated.

PS: You might be thinking that I should go on a decon break. The only reason why I am reluctant to go on an extended break is that I know if I don’t do PE, I would be spending more time on porn; hence, I would edge and masturbate that don’t really help with recovery if you ask me. Also, I have never made any gains over 1/4” in my whole year of PE, so I am not sure if a break is what I need?

Ok, after searching for more ways of approaching extender, I saw one of the members’ post on how he achieved a total of 2” in 5 years.

I just did some testing on his approach and it does work!

What I did was doing straight-out angle right under an IR lamp. I increased by tension by adding more bars to my extender. I want to make sure that my flaccid shaft length is longer than my erection shaft length.

I did it for 30 minutes under hot IR lamp. Right after that I did 10 min jelqing.

The result???

WOW… a plumped unit!!!

So if I can consistently achieve this result, the only logical explanation is the use of heat. I think for my already-toughed penis, I need a lot of heat to loosen up my hard tunica. Maybe this is the way for some of us hard gainers????

I will try doing 30 min in the morning and 30 min at night. I will monitor PI to determine if I need a break. I would rather reduce force than having to take mandatory breaks.

This is quite exciting for me!!

See what it gives. Maybe this thread would better fit in the progress report section.

Hi Marinera,

Can you leave it on for a few days before moving to Progress? There is more exposure under Main.

Thanks!

I don’t have much to say about extenders since I didn’t use it for long period of time, but this is what I would do.

Before putting the extender on, hand stretch in the direction you wanna keep your extender on, if you’re planning on keeping it in SD angle, then stretch it towards than angle. Also, before putting it on and after removing it, do some Jais and helicopter shakes.

Heat is very important, heating up your cock while being strapped in sounds like it should yield some gains.
When I edge, I do kegels (some) to keep my EQ high, maybe you stopped kegeling and that is what causing your poor EQ?

I think the heat was loosen up my unit. But for my last set, my flaccid hang was not good. I went through a temporary shrinkage (about 1.5hr) before my flaccid returns to normal.

This really puzzles me. If I am doing exact same routine (even the pulling force is fixed by using an extender), why am I getting two very different PI reaction?

My EQ has always been very good. The only time I would have bad EQ is when I jack off too much.

Kubchaser, yes I think that using something like a lamp or a rice sock to keep the warm up it’s a really good idea.

Kubchaser!

We have a similar problem. I too edged a lot earlier, and like you just did it too be able to enjoy porn/masturbation longer. I now have a mild to medium case of “retarded ejaculation” and probably a slight porn addiction as well (there’s just too much eye candy on the net.;) I am now trying to exchange masturbation with PE and regular sex as I have a new (super hot!) lover. Porn has to go as well, and my nico addiction too (did I mention that I have a tendency to get addicted to stuff? :) ..

I am certain I can manage to quit porn and masturbation, but I am a bit worried about quitting with nicotine. I use “Swedish snus”, a form of soft tobacco you put under your upper lip - and it’s a killer when it comes to addiction. I have tried before but “This time I know it’s for real” (Diana Ross?).

Anyone who knows how nicotine affects PE and EQ? I heard it’s bad but I had rock hard erections all my life, despite being a heavy nico addict for 20 years. That is until I started PE.. I must have overdone something sometime, since I no longer can trust my erections to be super hard every time. Also the erection subsides very quickly if I don’t stimulate my member. Kegels does not seem to help (4-5 months of newbie program with kegels). I have a hard time to even stay rock hard during measurement..

Anyway, keep in touch - maybe we can help each other to quit our naughty behavior and become solid citizens with huge dicks instead :)

/Crabman

One more thing.. I tried cock rings to stay hard, or at least help the blood to stay in my member longer, but it does not help one it.. WTF is that about? :(

If I rest my member I still have good erections (8-9 of 10) but it’s not easy to get rest when you try to put in the hours of PE AND have a sexy lover who just can’t get enough.. (I know it might seem like a ridiculous “problem” but I just wanna have my old erection quality back (and have a huge snake of course.)

I used an extender for a combined 8 months. PROPERLY, as directed.etc etc

No results.

Don’t waste your time

Sounds interesting. Can you tell us which member / link to the post?
Thanks!

I am primarily using ADS (plus manual stretching) and I have gained approx. 2 cm (=almost 1 inch) in the first year, and after that it sort of stopped. So that’s 1 year without any results :-( I am reconsidering my PE routine, and applying heat makes sense to me.
I wonder whether a proper warming up will have the same effect as keeping it warm during the whole routine…

Gus

Hey tiger, can you please give a brief outline of your routine? Did you include rest days etc? Did you see any improvement in flaccid hang?

5 Years Of Extender Experience

I know I have posts and threads all over this forum describing all my PE

But brief outline,

Wearing the device 3-6 hours daily, increasing the length just as directed by the manufacturer..
I increased the device length(which in the case of this device-increased the traction). Started with a noose strap, then moved to a comfort strap. Of course, I warmed up properly, occasionally threw some light jelqs in afterward if I felt my unit was shriveled and needed some blood flow. And No, my flaccid hang didn’t increase.

since we are talking extenders, Are the kinds with straps better than noose types and are they as effective without affecting eq?