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I’m going to make a custom one. I’m thinking a cylindrical shape with the hinge being nylon webbing, like the straps on a back pack. And the upper half, or latch, secured and tightened with velcro. The apparatus could be made of readily available methyl methacrylate. I’m debating whether a custom impression of the outstretched but flaccid member, to create a soft lining for the acrylic would be advantageous. Has anyone considered that?

Too much credence is given to the vac heads. At real traction tensions (1200grams+) you will develop fluid blisters on the head of your penis, or get the fishlips on your urethral orifice that one gets if they overpump in the VED. Even if you use tape.

And there are zero studies supporting the low tension all day stretcher vac head types like phallosan etc. At least spring loaded noose or strap based traction devices have studies behind them, some of which are independent and peer reviewed.

Edit. Also, the ‘miracle slider’ posted about a couple of times in this thread, from the pictures it does not seem to be spring loaded. That is a HUGE mistake, and I would never ever use a device that added tension by moving a screw to reach a static tension, rather than dynamic. You then have no margin for error, and if you move at all, you either increase or decrease the tension substantially. Too much risk for injury.


Starting Stats - 5.5 NBPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 NBPEL x 6.2 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)


Last edited by boner7484 : 10-06-2014 at .

Originally Posted by boner7484
Too much credence is given to the vac heads. At real traction tensions (1200grams+) you will develop fluid blisters on the head of your penis, or get the fishlips on your urethral orifice that one gets if they overpump in the VED. Even if you use tape.

And there are zero studies supporting the low tension all day stretcher vac head types like phallosan etc. At least spring loaded noose or strap based traction devices have studies behind them, some of which are independent and peer reviewed.

Edit. Also, the ‘miracle slider’ posted about a couple of times in this thread, from the pictures it does not seem to be spring loaded. That is a HUGE mistake, and I would never ever use a device that added tension by moving a screw to reach a static tension, rather than dynamic. You then have no margin for error, and if you move at all, you either increase or decrease the tension substantially. Too much risk for injury.

To avoid the problems with the vac caps you can wrap or tape, I have worn mine (from Monkeybar) with both an extender and my homemade static stretcher for hours at a time with no problems. 1200 grams is less than 3 pounds, if you are going to have huge problems at that weight I guess everyone who uses a vac hanger can expect horrible blistering and edemas. This is obviously not the case, so I should think it is rather safe if the vacuum is respected and precautions are taken.

Penile traction therapy is something that has actually been studied a good number of times. I know of ten such studies. The studies have mostly examined noose-style extenders, but the attachment method is not the important aspect that makes your penis grow, it is the constant, uniaxial traction force. The vac head is just another means of attachment. If someone used a silicone strap or a velcro strap instead of a noose it wouldn’t invalidate the study results completely now would it? Also, if you are only planning on doing PE that has been researched extensively that pretty much only leaves you extenders, and the research done on them isn’t spectacular from the standpoint of research methods anyway.

Static stretchers are great tools, I would say they are a bit more “advanced” than a standard extender, but they certainly aren’t unsafe and someone shouldn’t be creating the levels of tension that would make them so. Movement, from personal experience, isn’t too problematic, the only time I notice movement dramatically affecting tension is with leg straps. With a static stretcher you get a pre-determined level of stretch and then the penis relaxes due to its viscoelastic properties, which actually means stress becomes less and less the longer you wear it (less and less tension in the penis), making the penis more pliable under stretch over time.

Please don’t bash static stretchers, many of us have used one with success and safety. Even the DIY extender linked from Thundersplace’s manual is a static stretcher.

Roots

Originally Posted by boner7484
Edit. Also, the ‘miracle slider’ posted about a couple of times in this thread, from the pictures it does not seem to be spring loaded. That is a HUGE mistake, and I would never ever use a device that added tension by moving a screw to reach a static tension, rather than dynamic. You then have no margin for error, and if you move at all, you either increase or decrease the tension substantially. Too much risk for injury.

Boner, In theory you might have a point especially for a novice user but in practice it is not an issue if you use common sense. You can just as easily abuse your dick with a spring based extender if you ignore the tension marks and go for broke.

I started out with a spring based extender and did as the manuals say - gradually increasing the tension and time in traction and got good results. I got to understand what the advice “listen to your dick” meant. Now I use a LeLuv slider which looks identical to the Miracle. It is easier to use as you do not have to unclamp etc to add rods and it allows you to apply the stress relaxation technique.I’ve learnt to listen to my dick, it tells me when the tension is about right and when to stop the session. If I get carried away a bit with tension the session does not last as long. I found exactly the same thing with the spring based extender

Ok fair enough, if you’re careful I guess it can work out for you. I will never use one though, for the reasons I said earlier. The dynamic tension provided by the springs gives a much bigger margin for error if you want to be able to move around while wearing one. Though I suppose if the device did not have a hinge at the base as most regular traction devices do, that would minimise the possible dangers.

I tried the vac attachment and had problems with the constant vacuum pressure on the head of the penis even when using the fluid tape provided. I honestly don’t see how someone could stay at above 1200 grams tension for 5-6 hours (with breaks) without having problems… but if you are managing to do that then it must be possible.

And yep, I only use an extender (spring loaded) and VED as they’ve got some research behind them plus I am shitscared of aggravating my Peyronie’s by doing manual exercises wrong.


Starting Stats - 5.5 NBPEL x 5.6 EG

Current Stats - 5.7 NBPEL x 6.2 EG

Goal - 7 x 6 (with hopefully a large flaccid hang)

Originally Posted by boner7484
Ok fair enough, if you’re careful I guess it can work out for you. I will never use one though, for the reasons I said earlier. The dynamic tension provided by the springs gives a much bigger margin for error if you want to be able to move around while wearing one. Though I suppose if the device did not have a hinge at the base as most regular traction devices do, that would minimise the possible dangers.

I tried the vac attachment and had problems with the constant vacuum pressure on the head of the penis even when using the fluid tape provided. I honestly don’t see how someone could stay at above 1200 grams tension for 5-6 hours (with breaks) without having problems… but if you are managing to do that then it must be possible.

And yep, I only use an extender (spring loaded) and VED as they’ve got some research behind them plus I am shitscared of aggravating my Peyronie’s by doing manual exercises wrong.

Boner, the slider does have the hinge at the base like most other extenders. I agree the spring based extenders are safer for newbies but when I was at that stage most of my estending was doe at tensions below 1200 grams nominal. My check using kitchen digital scales found the actual tension varied significantly from the nominal.

Once I got more experienced with the spring extender I noticed my dick fought back less against the springs after a while and I had to adjust the screws regularly just to keep the tension steady. This became a pain because I often ran out of screw travel and I had to release the tension and remove the cradle to add rods to get the tension back up.

I then read Rootsnatty’s thread about stress relaxation and got the slider to try it out. The jury is still out on whether it is giving me quicker gains but it sure is easier to use and I am pretty sure I do not go much above 1200 g tension. So for experienced users I would recommend a slider hands down over a spring based extender.

I agree with you that you have to be careful with vacuum head extenders as blisters can come easily if you over do it.

Now I need a concrete advice for I troubled with my extender. I have x4 and connected my phallosan bulb to it just like monkey bar vaccum modification. I wear a constriction sleeve. But still get water retention and once got a blister under y frenulum. It was bad and was bleeding also. I am uncut hard to wear extender. The only way I can wear is with just the silicon tube without any wrapping. This hurts and cannot wear more than 20 to 30 minutes. What should I do. M

Tell me also should I go for non spring based extender.

money_man

>. I have x4 and connected my phallosan bulb to it just like monkey bar vaccum modification. I wear a constriction sleeve. But still get water retention and once got a blister under y frenulum. It was bad and was bleeding also.

You may have been extending at too high a tension. It is easy to do with vacuum extenders because of the lack of head pain you get with the noose or even a strap if you try to tension too much. I got a blister or two doing that with a vacextender.

I would ease up on the tension and get some of the vacuum tape monkeybar sells to put on the glans. I got a blister or two doing that

I am uncut hard to wear extender. The only way I can wear is with just the silicon tube without any wrapping. This hurts and cannot wear more than 20 to 30 minutes. What should I do. M

>I am uncut hard to wear extender. The only way I can wear is with just the silicon tube without any wrapping. This hurts and cannot wear more than 20 to 30 minutes. What should I do.

I am also uncut. Assuming the phallosan works like the vacextender, the trick is to fold your skin back and make sure there are no skin folds under the silicone sealing ring. Also pull the skin forward at the back to make sure there are no skin folds under the base. Too high tensiuon may also be the reason why you cannot last more than 20 to 30 minutes.

>Tell me also should I go for non spring based extender.

As we discussed above I reckon than depends on your level of experience. If you get a slider you will probably have to make a mod to fit the phallosan. I would consider mdoing a DIY velcro mod for your existing extender so you can start extending earlier if you get a blister. THat is why I wend down that route.

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