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Has anyone tried using an ADS for over a year???

Originally Posted by budzmaster

So monty, you’re trying to say that you cant gain length from ADS? Hmm, I have read much that differs from that opinion.

So did I, but I’m not sure if they only used the ADS, they might have been doing other things at the same time.


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Originally Posted by budzmaster
So monty, you’re trying to say that you cant gain length from ADS? Hmm, I have read much that differs from that opinion.


You see a person could very well be doing some super jelqs and other manual stretches in addition to ADS application. My point is that 2 lbs would only be effective for maybe a newbie. Even in that case he would only see gains for a short period. That doesn’t mean that the ADS is ineffective, it just means that more in addition to an ADS is necessary for progress.

To those that may have gained from an ADS more power to them but usually a person will experience assimilation unless additional stress is applied.

This doesn’t mean the ADS isn’t necessary,. it just means the ADS is an essential tool and an integral part of the whole gains process.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Here is an over view of what I’m talking about.

Leon asked:What sort of course do you recommend for those PE weights. At the moment i’m hanging 10 hours a week. It would very nice to be able to cut this down to five hours. How long should Iwear your weights for? Are they still ok when sitting down?

In answer to your question below: You should be able to cut your hanging time down to a reasonable amount. 5 hours should be enough. You see after your hanging sessions the Rings will prevent the normal retraction that you’ll get when you do nothing for the next 24 hours. That’s assuming that your doing one hanging session per day. If your doing more then that then you might not be experiencing any regression but that means a great deal of time out of your day.
My normal schedule would be hanging in the afternoon when I got home from work and for the rest of the day and all day the next day until my session time came around I would wear the Rings. I found that they prevented any losses that normally occurred and my progress became rather consistent. Weekends I didn’t do any hanging but I did keep the Rings on. So in addition to the above findings I found also that I could go days without a hanging session and when I looked at my data over a long period of time my gains were still consistent with consecutive hanging results. So in effect the Rings became not only an insurance against losses but also acted as a bridge for normal life inconsistencies of my routine.

The more direct answer to your question is: Keep the rings on as much as possible and carry out your normal hanging routine. Together is how everything works best.

One of the additional advantages is the prevention of plateau’s. Working within the healing cycles of the body is the key to consistent gains. When you allow a time interval between stress periods (hanging) for healing to take place the body is going to strengthen the tissues that were damaged or stressed during the hanging. Everyone’s healing rate or cycle period is different. If you can keep disruption in the tissues between hanging sessions then you will have consistent gains. If you don’t then you will be fighting the bodies natural ability to heal and strengthen what it recognizes as something wrong, namely stressed tissues somewhere in the body. Plateau’s will demand heavier hanging sessions which is the biggest reason for guys ending up trying to hang 35 to 45 lbs. That is one scary hanging weight and really is dangerous. This should be unnecessary . I’ve hung 3 years and I still use less then 20 lbs to accomplish gains. Very heavy weights should be unnecessary.

The question about sitting effectiveness of the rings is this: Once you have the rings on they not only provide a consistent tug while your up and about but they also act as a traction device preventing regression. Obviously a loss of the weight while sitting can’t be avoided without a hole in your chair but think of it this way. If every time you stand up your penis is being pulled with 2lbs of weight hanging on it your going to keep the disruption of the tissues which is afterall is all we’re interested in. Certainly a constant pull from a stretcher is nice but when you look at the statistics of each you won’t find any difference except you have to guard yourself all the time with all that apparatus in your pants. I don’t know about you but I don’t think they make pants THAT loose.

Monty


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by rushmore
Hard,

In what position are you wearing your ADS and for how long? Are you experiencing better flaccid and pliability as well? How is your EQ? Good luck!


I’ll try to answer your questions.

I’m using a leg strap, so mostly stretching downwards. It’s an eBay vacuum-style stretcher.
It’s quite comfortable and I usually wear it from morning until evening, except for the occasional pissing and love-breaks. That could be anywhere between 10-18 hours depending upon what time I get up and go to bed.

Because I’m wearing it so much I cannot say that much about the flaccid size, it does seems much better but it is probably mostly temporary in nature.

Actually the ADS gives a lower pliability, which is a good thing. You can get the desired micro tears while using less force.

EQ is great. Thanks for your support. :)


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02/06/08 8,1" Bpel - 5,6" Eg - 5,7" Fl

Hi! Monty, I’m just curious about the statement about wearing the ADS(in this case rings) for as long as possible following a hanging session. Now I’m wondering would this be done as soon as a person starts out his hanging career or would you just wear the ADS( rings) after the hanging for just let’s say 1 hour at first and then gradually move up over the months ahead? Would’nt this prolong the gains over time? Thank you.

Originally Posted by aimingmassive
Hi! Monty, I’m just curious about the statement about wearing the ADS(in this case rings) for as long as possible following a hanging session. Now I’m wondering would this be done as soon as a person starts out his hanging career or would you just wear the ADS( rings) after the hanging for just let’s say 1 hour at first and then gradually move up over the months ahead? Would’nt this prolong the gains over time? Thank you.


No, You need to wear them for long durations from the very first to preserve the lenght gains from your hanging.

You see what would happen if you used them for a short duration after your hanging session is you would give up however many hours between the last point in time of using your ADS until the next stress period. So lets say you hang for 3 sets of 20 minutes. That would equal 1 hour 20 minutes given 10 minute relaxation periods between sets. Then you wear an ADS for 1 hour. Now you will have 21 hrs and 40 minutes until the next session. That would give your body 21 hours and 40 minutes to heal. That is a very long time and enough so that the next session you would gain nothing. Of course you wouldn’t know this until a month goes by and no gains then you think that you can correct by increasing your weight, but understand you’ve done this for a month and during that month of routines like this each time you allow the body to successfully lay in new collagen, the tissues get stronger. That is not what we want we want to keep them weak to the point where each time you apply stress your actually getting longer.

So in essence we want is to keep the tissues disturbed so they don’t take on a stronger frame work. In order to do that we need to keep up the disturbance of disrupted tissues which allows the next hanging session to be effective. Now obviously if you can maintain a consistent hanging routine from day to day your results would be better then sporadic hanging sessions. One advantage of the rings or your ADS is that when used regularly you will find that your hanging sessions, even though they were sporadic because of the consequences of life, your gains will be consistent with a regular routine. At least that is what my data revealed.

So really what we’re talking about here is the healing cycles of the body and how they can interfere with gains. We have to work not only with stress levels (weight) but also healing potential of the body. It won’t do a us a great deal of good if we hang and the let the body strenghten and then hang again expecting gains. It’s not going to happen.

You know it would be great if we could sit a home and hang all day like Bib and a couple of other guys. They didn’t need an ADS and as a matter of fact ADS’s weren’t used in those days. What we have found though is an ADS can fake the body into believing that stress is still being applied and if nothing else when the body does do it’s healing thing it is doing so in an elongated state. When no stress is applied then the healing is done in the regressive state.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

So then the question is, how much weight do you think is needed in an ADS system to “keep the tissues disturbed?”

By the way, I am a happy Monty’s PE Weights customer…
Monty’s PE Weights = A+

2 lbs seems to be the magic number. If you load up two pounds on your member and feel the ligs, they’ll be banjo string tight. One of the things that is most interesting is that gravity works but so does kinetic energy. When you go down stairs as a for instance the stress with each step down is noticeable. If you need to jump or get down off of something your going to find yourself being very careful because the sudden stop is going to multiply the the stress.

Big Girtha used to report that he went running with his on. To me that’s crazy. He reported that he would loose one now and then.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Thank you so much for that amazing post Monty! I so need as much information as possible to make the best decisions, and the more I read the more I understand and learn. A couple of other things if you will indulge me: If I want to jelq after stretching/hanging for a while ,is that O.K. And then wear the ADS right after jelquing? And what ADS do think is best after hanging? Would stretching with something like the GRIP to the leg or knee be effective? Thank you.

I think Monty may be a bit biased…but I would recommend his weights.

Rushmore is probably right but I hope you guys understand that I come from a place of success from my own efforts as well as from my own stuff. Application is everything.

There really is no rush after hanging or whatever your stress preference is. The healing process takes hours for the body to accomplish so if you loaded up your ADS within a couple of hours it’s no big deal. I just wouldn’t let 8 or 10 hours go by without the tug. Some of you guys heal so darn fast, I wouldn’t take any chances on making my life more complicated because of super fast collagen build up. See when the body detects lig damage it sends in collagen to wrap up and around the strings that are stressed or broken attaching themselves to the damaged latice. These collagen strings bind to the damaged strings and strengthen them as well as return them to their natural lenght. This is what we want to prevent, disallowing the bonding and resultant reformation of a stronger structure.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Look for westsidetony’s thread. He wore his for 12 hours or more a day, anywhere and everywhere. I think he gained 2 inches in a few months.

Here:
My gains (start 1-1-2007)


Jelq, ADS, repeat.

Final Goal: 8EL x 6.2

Must...think...long...term.

Yeah but someone said in his thread that, that might be bullshit.


10/10/08 Bpel 6.50 Eg 4.9 base 5.0 few weeks off due to injury :( 12/10/08 Bpel 6.875 Eg 5.0

03/10/09 Bpel 7.25 Eg 5.0625 base 5.25 Donations Keep The Community Going, Click Me

05/10/09 Bpel 7.50 Eg 5.1 base 5.5 11/10/09 Bpel 7.6875 EG 5.125. Goal is as much as I can

Yeah, but he also jelqed and stretched for a half hour a day and then an hour a day each. Bottom line is, ADS alone doesn’t produce gains after you’ve made newbie gains. You must stretch and/or jelq in conjunction with ADS to see length gains.


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The search NO longer continues. :)

I figure even if ADS doesn’t work, it keeps you stretched to let you heal more in that stretched state, so it is a benefit either way.


10/10/08 Bpel 6.50 Eg 4.9 base 5.0 few weeks off due to injury :( 12/10/08 Bpel 6.875 Eg 5.0

03/10/09 Bpel 7.25 Eg 5.0625 base 5.25 Donations Keep The Community Going, Click Me

05/10/09 Bpel 7.50 Eg 5.1 base 5.5 11/10/09 Bpel 7.6875 EG 5.125. Goal is as much as I can

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