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Originally Posted by xenolith
I do think that that is happening too, but I actually did mean it the way I wrote it; it describes, just like I wrote, the re-alignment of fibers, much like a Chinese finger toy, from orientations more normal to the stress vector to orientations more coincident with the stress vector, thereby achieving strain relief; rather than strain, they re-orient.

Please don’t lose track of the last thing I wrote though; But I could be wrong :) .

xeno

Ah, so like a Cauchy traction vector/stress tensor.

And I haven’t forgotten, more people should make that concession. :)

Originally Posted by austfred

I am not so sure about that. The clamp (noose or strap) in a conventional extender has to stretch the whole shaft and seems to work OK without severe circulation issues at least for 60 minutes. By distributing the clamping and stretching along the shaft this one should be better. I suppose the ultimate example would be an Xsleeve which effectively clamps and stretches continuously along the shaft albeit at a low tension and compression.

When I use my extender my glans becomes dark purple in colour which freaks me out as is normally a nice health pink. This is circulation being cut off and it also becomes pretty painful too.

I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.

Nothing about this stupid design would work. Like I said before how can you grip and stretch in sections something that gets thinner as you stretch it.

It’s not like there aren’t plenty of well designed stretching devices around already.

Originally Posted by austfred

I am not so sure about that. The clamp (noose or strap) in a conventional extender has to stretch the whole shaft and seems to work OK without severe circulation issues at least for 60 minutes. By distributing the clamping and stretching along the shaft this one should be better. I suppose the ultimate example would be an Xsleeve which effectively clamps and stretches continuously along the shaft albeit at a low tension and compression.

Of course I didn’t mean the connection at the end, as with all extenders I imagine it would be fine as it has the glans to help connect to and create resistance without compressing entirely on the shaft for grip. I meant the rings along the shaft would have to grip pretty tight to the shaft to make up for the disadvantage of not having the bulge of glans to help hold. Without that bulge, circulation would be much more restrictive making these inner ring either too tight, or too loose to actually affect the tension along the shaft.


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Originally Posted by cantlook
Of course I didn’t mean the connection at the end, as with all extenders I imagine it would be fine as it has the glans to help connect to and create resistance without compressing entirely on the shaft for grip. I meant the rings along the shaft would have to grip pretty tight to the shaft to make up for the disadvantage of not having the bulge of glans to help hold. Without that bulge, circulation would be much more restrictive making these inner ring either too tight, or too loose to actually affect the tension along the shaft.

With the way the skin travels over the tunica, especially an already stretched tunica, I can’t really see it working in the practical sense.

Originally Posted by capernicus1
I can’t believe you guys are still talking about this.
Nothing about this stupid design would work. Like I said before how can you grip and stretch in sections something that gets thinner as you stretch it.


Surprised by your disbelief cap; while it does present apparent design flaws it also presents a unique attribute, discretized stress application, that I think merits this kind of discussion. I mean, this sort of thing is why engineering exists; and to varying degrees, we’re all penis engineers here, so why such disbelief?

Below I present a concept to address the major apparent design flaw, the one that you’ve identified, lack of capacity to adjust closures sufficiently to account for Poisson ration thinning in the radial dimension as the longitudinal dimension increases. Note that the durometer of the gel ring would need to be chosen carefully balance the ability to deform and the ability to grip. I don’t claim this concept to be perfect, but a step in the right direction toward solving that apparent design flaw.

Which brings me to a point that I can’t help but address: I really think that the Forum would be enhanced by having a Gizmo Forum (like I said here: xenolith - How Would You Improve Thundersplace?). There’s an awful lot of brain power among the membership that could be harnessed in such workshop-like place to be exercised for the purpose of solving PE gizmo design problems without causing twitterpation in those not interested in such things.

Just my $0.02, again.

xeno

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Xeno, I like this idea, just as a general attachment idea. I think you were the one who proposed using the bib with a wide open bottom gap and very closed too gap. This is how I use my bib and it works great. Inserting the hinge in there would create a similar grip pattern with this idea I should think.

There is a very simple way to accomplish what this device would : traction wrapping.

Originally Posted by marinera

There is a very simple way to accomplish what this device would : traction wrapping.

If you use foil tape it could be shiny too! :)


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Originally Posted by xenolith
Surprised by your disbelief cap; while it does present apparent design flaws it also presents a unique attribute, discretized stress application, that I think merits this kind of discussion. I mean, this sort of thing is why engineering exists; and to varying degrees, we’re all penis engineers here, so why such disbelief?

Below I present a concept to address the major apparent design flaw, the one that you’ve identified, lack of capacity to adjust closures sufficiently to account for Poisson ration thinning in the radial dimension as the longitudinal dimension increases. Note that the durometer of the gel ring would need to be chosen carefully balance the ability to deform and the ability to grip. I don’t claim this concept to be perfect, but a step in the right direction toward solving that apparent design flaw.

Which brings me to a point that I can’t help but address: I really think that the Forum would be enhanced by having a Gizmo Forum (like I said here: xenolith - How Would You Improve Thundersplace?). There’s an awful lot of brain power among the membership that could be harnessed in such workshop-like place to be exercised for the purpose of solving PE gizmo design problems without causing twitterpation in those not interested in such things.

Just my $0.02, again.

xeno

I don’t have a problem with the principle of stretching sections independently just with this non existent and flawed device.
If I seriously wanted to try this I would build something along the lines of your tiger trap but with sliding teeth that you could wind apart with a scissor jack, that might actually work but again circulation issues would limit it to fairly short durations.

Originally Posted by xenolith
Which brings me to a point that I can’t help but address: I really think that the Forum would be enhanced by having a Gizmo Forum (like I said here: xenolith - How Would You Improve Thundersplace?). There’s an awful lot of brain power among the membership that could be harnessed in such workshop-like place to be exercised for the purpose of solving PE gizmo design problems without causing twitterpation in those not interested in such things.


The existing “The Experiment” forum might work for discussions of this nature:

The Experiment


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Originally Posted by capernicus1
I don’t have a problem with the principle of stretching sections independently just with this non existent and flawed device.
If I seriously wanted to try this I would build something along the lines of your tiger trap but with sliding teeth that you could wind apart with a scissor jack, that might actually work but again circulation issues would limit it to fairly short durations.


Well now you’re sounding like a positive contributor to this thread; good for you! I encourage you to keep that mindset when considering flawed things/persons. Check my photo contribution in the context of circulation; in theory, it limits reduction in cross-sectional area in the vicinity of the CS (from ~2:00 to 10:00) under compression, thereby facilitating continued good circulation…compression is focused on the 10:00 to 2:00 positions, i.e. on the CCs.

Originally Posted by cantlook
The existing “The Experiment” forum might work for discussions of this nature:

The Experiment


Yes, it might, although it seems something of a catch-all (read: garbage can). I think making it (or the Extender Forum) into a more gizmo (i.e. design and problem solving) focused forum would be encouraging to the creative, problem solving inclined members of the Forum. I genuinely think that a PE device workshop type forum would yield a heuristically appealing, collaborative problem solving environment in which members could help each other overcome design and execution obstacles. I think the benefit to the membership should be self-evident.

Perhaps the Cock Coil would not have existed in obscurity for nine years in a Gizmo Forum.

I think I’m up to six cents now; I’ll now stop.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.375" BPEL x 6.75" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

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Originally Posted by rootsnatty
With the way the skin travels over the tunica, especially an already stretched tunica, I can’t really see it working in the practical sense.

I agree. Probably all you would achieve is a more uniform stretch of the outer skin. This could be the killer punch to knock out this multiple clamping concept.

Originally Posted by xenolith
Yes, it might, although it seems something of a catch-all (read: garbage can). I think making it (or the Extender Forum) into a more gizmo (i.e. design and problem solving) focused forum would be encouraging to the creative, problem solving inclined members of the Forum. I genuinely think that a PE device workshop type forum would yield a heuristically appealing, collaborative problem solving environment in which members could help each other overcome design and execution obstacles. I think the benefit to the membership should be self-evident.

Perhaps the Cock Coil would not have existed in obscurity for nine years in a Gizmo Forum.


Any forum is only going to be as good as the threads within it. I think a dedicated think tank area is a great idea and the results could be remarkable, or it could quickly turn into a new garbage bin. ;) Retooling the description of an existing forum is probably the easiest way to make it happen. I’ll see what can be done.


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