Why not stretch every day?

If your just doing JAI stretches, why not stretch every day? It seems as though the intensity of that stretch is low enough to justify doing it every day. So again, why not stretch every day?

Your dick gets use to the same ol’ dame ol’ and gets bored and does not respond.

It is like doing bicep curls everyday, eventually by everyday use the muscles no longer respond effectively to stimuli.

I’m not quite sure of the logic of that reply kingpole?

If I do bicep curls for the next six months with the same x weight, you are right the muscle won’t grow (once it has accommodated the weight), but it will stabalise to that weight. So my bicep would be bigger than someone who doesn’t do the exercise or related exercise, for example.

However, effectively responding to stimuli I believe is the issue. What we are saying is you have to judge the fatigue placed on the penis and ensure that does increase in a controlled manner to continue gains. E.G. Starting with 5 minute stretching will fatigue the penis initially during PE, but after a month or whatever this has to increase because the penis conditions to the stress.

What we are trying to do is fatigue the penis, then let it recover. While fatigue is good, pain is bad and indicates over training.

Rest days are generally advised, however, some of the best gainers like Bib would argue that point, wouldn’t they?

Physiologically I see no reason why during PE you cannot keep you penis and related anatomy in a constant state of fatigue. However, what that does do is run the risk of moving into over training and risking injury. But if you can achieve the balance, then that must be the best and quickest method to gains. But everyone has to do a gains vs risk analysis based on what they feel.

So some do 2 on 1 off, some do 6 on 1 off, some hang 7 days per week, it all depends on your approach I guess. However, gains are not related to hours spent, rather effective fatigue.

I.e. Hanging 1 lbs per day for 7 days a week 5 hours a day won’t be wise as compared hanging 15 lbs for 30 minutes 3 on, 1 off. The duration of what you do has to be matched to the stress your routine is applying.

Rest days are there to help with growth. Rest days = growth.

The penis is not a muscle, so comparing it’s ability to withstand everyday use to a biceps, is totally wrong. Your muscle needs to be worked in cycles, IE: work, than rest. The ligs can be stretched 24/7, as long as you are not trying to rip them from your body. And they will grow longer over time of doing this. (Skin is the same way.)

My question is, If stretching everyday is bad, why do so many use ADS devices for 5, 10, hours and some times even longer everyday. And while doing this, most will see good gains.

Healing in a stretched phase? Hence flaccid should be longer, not too sure about erect though.

I’m not too sure how ADSs work soo…

I totally agree with this. I only make a comment as regards weight lifting because the science applied can be valid in terms of hanging, stretching, etc. In terms of the approach taken in some areas.

Rest days do not equate PE growth as regards stretching, but what rest days do allow is recovery from over training and injury. That said, if you micro tear during jelqing, healing time is needed for the vessels, but this isn’t concerned with stretching the ligaments.

Rest for muscle equates growth. Rest for ligaments equates a lack of traction.

Stretching everyday isn’t bad, but it is a nonsense question. If you stretch everyday with 1 lbs, you will get no results. If you stretch everyday with 100 lbs, you will get injury. You have to find the balance.

As I stated, in theory if you can balance fatigue vs injury you can hang or stretch everyday. But if you do hang everyday, you clearly have the opportunity for greater and quicker gains but in addition run the risk of finding injury.

So the issue is balance. Using differing approaches to hanging you will gain and achieve a realistic target over a period of time if you approach it correctly and have the gains to be made I.e. High months, years. You can of course hang everyday, but why would you want to? Remember, worker smarter, not harder (within limits of course). If you do get the balance wrong and get injury, that over eagerness could cost you the use of your penis for a long time.

So perhaps here in the specific case the JAI stretches should be done at a slightly greater intensity, rather than the duration increasing. This is where I do make reference to lifting weights. You can increase the duration of what you do, you can increase the repetition of what you do or increase the intensity of what you do. All are valid depending on your own results of the PE indicators and what you should be doing.

Take my case. I have a LOT between 8-9, erection angle above 10, high exit point and a potential 3” from the palp test. If I hung OS for 2 hours a day at the same weight as BTC for the same duration, I’m fairly sure the later approach would produce the better results, because currently that is where my gains are at. This could be wholly different to someone else where they need to stretch the tunica and focus OS.

So knowing what you need to do and focus on after the newbie routine is a good start.

bigluke39, I totally agree with you. The answer you posed about ADS work was answered well by Ruz.

Also, I feel the same way you do about any reference to bodybuilding. After seeing multiple rip-off enlargement sites using the muscle building analogy to penis enlargement I hate to see mention of it. Besides, few people know the truths about muscular hypertrophy for “skeletal muscles” for natural bodybuilding even not making an analogy.

I totally agree. While saying it with simple words, you said it well. Nevertheless, once the suspensory ligament builds up a tolerance to the amount of work applied to it (force and time=work), either a deconditioning break is necessary, or an increase in weight or time under the same weight. Yet, more weight may cause a person to need off days to allow the skin, blood vessels, etc…. to recover. Therefore, with heavier weights a person is less likely to be able to hit the ligs every day.

Could hanging light weights as 3, 5, or even 8 lbs. daily be considered, when aiming to balance the issues of hitting the ligs, and taking it easy on the other structures of the penis? I’m considering attempting it with a vac hanger, as my vac extender head attatchment has been working very well with 1 lb for up to 3 hours straight. I’m going to up the weight to 2 lbs, then 3, up to 4 or 5 lbs. , cut my time down to two consecutive two hour sessions, and monitor my PI’s. If I do get gains early on, then later see them slow down drastically, I’m going to cement with an ads, then decondition. The cementing and decondition is basically the P and the R of an IPR Macro cycle.

Light work on the ligs may be able to be done every day, while heavy work on the ligs may require rest days, in order to allow the “other” structures of the penis to heal. Your other tissues take a beating during heavy work.

Also, if enough creep/strain on the ligs is induced in one day, micro-tears may be formed, and permanent elongation may have been established in that one session. Follow that session with an ads, and then another day with only an ads, then a day off. This is an IPR micro cycle. This should work well for newbies (that “incrementally” ad weight slowly) and for experienced PE’ers that have deconditioned enough. What is enough? That is also not known yet, and is still debateable.

To be honest, I’ve done quite a bit of reading about ligaments, but I havn’t stuck to a routine. I don’t have proof, yet. Take my info with a grain of salt. Like some other information, I hope that my idea isn’t misinformation. Time will tell, as truths do unfold here at Thunder’s.

So, the answer to “can you stretch the ligs every day?” is as clear as mud.

You can stretch every day. That is the whole idea behind ADS’s and extenders. You have to see what works best for you, but every day is a logical option.

I couldn’t agree more. The whole idea behind a PE routine is finding what works for you and sticking with it.

I’ve always thought that daily stretching was a good thing and that it was the jelq-esque exercises that required days off. However recently, as my manual stretches have been getting more intense, my ligs just don’t feel properly healed the next day to start stretching them again. I suppose that’s that draw back of doing high-intensity stretches: you’re going to have to take breaks. A less intense ADS would probably be alright for a daily tackle. I’d agree with Mr Avg - see what works best for you.

I totally agree.

The muscle analogy is incorrect (there are muscles in the penis, but they are ‘smooth muscles’ which don’t compare well with skeletal muscle.

Ruz,

Do you have a link to more info on what a Palp Test is? The search doesn’t bring up much.
Thanks, dkp

I found this info over on bibs site.

Hence the reason I still stand behind my routine: Stretch in AM (lots of V and A stretches because I am a true believer that the real length gains are found in the tunica) throw on 2 to 3 golf weights all day. Jelq at night when you take them off. 5 on / 2 off. This is the almighty length gaining routine in my opinion. It has produced unreal length gains for me. Although I am no longer motivated to do it any more because I am pleased with my size I am positive I could still get a lot more length out of it and I think anyone could. I believe ADS is the almighty length gainer, people just don’t put in the effort or hours, hence the reason we have all these newbs whining about no gains. Look at westsidetoni’s thread for one amazing example.