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When is penis size too big & counterproductive?

Great thread. Lots of interesting perspectives out there on this subject.

In my opinion, lengthwise, anything above 7-7.5 is probably just window dressing for most women. You can definitely get the job done with that much (or really anything over 6, IMO). After 7.5 you’re gonna have to take it easy on some chicks unless they get off on cervix tapping and/or pain. Many can eventually accommodate more length over time, but some just can’t for whatever reason. Even pre-PE I had a few lovers/girlfriend’s who I could never really pound like I wanted to even after months sleeping with them. My current lady friend can just take all of me (I’m 8.25” now), but that is with lots of warming up and me being very gentle as I get deep. I occasionally can fuck her hard for short periods of time, but pretty much only after she’s already had and orgasm and only from behind with her laying flat on her stomach. I think that position really just prevents me from going as deep. The sex overall is great, but it kinda sucks to not be able to let loose from time to time. I’ve really hurt her a couple times by getting too into it. So no more intentional length work for me!

I don’t know what girth would be too much. At 5.75”, I have had to ease into a few girls after a good warmup, but even the ones who seem a little nervous about it can take it and generally love thickness. I’m not really into anal, so it doesn’t bother me that only 3 girls have ever even let me try (only two successfully). Oral is hit or miss, but I do notice that they get tired more quickly since I’ve grown. I’m aiming for 6-6.5 because that’s what I want, and I think most women would be able to handle it or at least work up to it.

My guess is that being over 8+ by 6.5+ could be problematic for enough women for me to lose some of my enjoyment.

@ charlie dog

You have the problem that I want to have, lol :D


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Originally Posted by Kjdeet
@ charlie dog

You have the problem that I want to have, lol :D

Ha Ha!! Ok so I didn’t really say I had a problem. ;) I was just curious as to what point should I stop working on size, and focus on EQ.

It’s very interesting to read everyone’s comments, opinions and stories. There are some stories I can’t even relate too based on my own experiences. I wonder if there are members not relating to my experiences.

One thing that seems to come up frequently is bottoming out, and it being painful for her. There were a couple members that suggested there’s a way to tap the cervix and actually cause pleasure. Hmmm… Which one is it, or both? I’ve hit bottom a few times, but very rare, and by her grimace I knew it caused a quick, temporary spike of pain. It was based on positioning, and that leads me the think that going much past 8” is only going to get me into more situations of potentially bottoming out. I’ve never been told that it was pleasurable because I was bottoming out.

Women’s vaginal muscles have the ability to expand to accommodate girth, but not so much to accommodate length based on genetics (correct me if I’m wrong). This petite lady I’ve been mentioning has by far the tightest vagina I’ve ever had. The first time we had sex I almost gave up after 4 tries. In time I was able to get partly inside her. We have been having sex for 2 months now. It still takes time to work it in, but after about 10-15 minutes, she can take the whole thing. Fortunately, she gets nice & wet, and it feels Fantastic! So if she’s the smallest, and still able to take me, I believe I’m safe to gain maybe just slightly in length (1/4 inch - goal 8.25”) and focus on girth (1/2 inch MSEG - goal 6.1”). Problem with gaining MSEG is that I don’t really need to grow much further on BSEG (already 7”). Now I’m rambling… Ok, it’s getting late and I’m getting tired.


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Originally Posted by JP7.5
I don’t know what girth would be too much. At 5.75”, I have had to ease into a few girls after a good warmup, but even the ones who seem a little nervous about it can take it and generally love thickness. I’m not really into anal, so it doesn’t bother me that only 3 girls have ever even let me try (only two successfully). Oral is hit or miss, but I do notice that they get tired more quickly since I’ve grown. I’m aiming for 6-6.5 because that’s what I want, and I think most women would be able to handle it or at least work up to it.

My guess is that being over 8+ by 6.5+ could be problematic for enough women for me to lose some of my enjoyment.

Becarefull what you wish for. I am living proof.

Originally Posted by tntjockey
Becarefull what you wish for. I am living proof.

Hey TNT. I read your thread and have seen you caution against overdoing it in several others. Really appreciate your posts because they are thoughtful and honest. That, and you and I are of very similar stature, so I figure your perspective may be similar in some ways. If I was married, I would definitely be careful about making sure I’m in tune with my wife’s needs.

A quick question: Do you think it has been your length or girth that caused the most problems for your you and your wife? I’m past you and firegoat’s recommended girth Max, but have never had a woman complain specifically about it being too much (vaginally, I mean).

Originally Posted by charlie dog

One thing that seems to come up frequently is bottoming out, and it being painful for her. There were a couple members that suggested there’s a way to tap the cervix and actually cause pleasure. Hmmm.. Which one is it, or both? I’ve hit bottom a few times, but very rare, and by her grimace I knew it caused a quick, temporary spike of pain. It was based on positioning, and that leads me the think that going much past 8” is only going to get me into more situations of potentially bottoming out. I’ve never been told that it was pleasurable because I was bottoming out.

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I agree that going past eight will make this a recurring issue for you. You’ll have to be mindful of positioning and the force of your thrusts.

I’m not sure if there is any one technique that makes cervical stimulation pleasurable for women. It soooooo person-dependent. Some really get off on it some hate it. I think the key is that once you get past 7” you gotta initially be gentle when going deep to figure out what they can take, then adapt accordingly. Some you’ll probably bottom at 7, and others will take 8+ with room to spare.

Interestingly, I dated one girl who seemed to hate when I bumped her cervix, but at the same time LOVED a certain amount of pain that came when I would go balls deep. I’m guessing she loved CDS stimulation as long as I didn’t directly hit the cervix on the way there. So she would literally tell me during sex to “make it hurt”, but one thrust at the wrong angle and she would almost leap off the bed and be doubled over in (unwanted) pain. She even went to the doctor once because she was hurting the next day and thought I had punctured something. So for her, very short, but deep strokes worked best.

Hope that helps Charlie

Originally Posted by charlie dog
Ha Ha!! Ok so I didn’t really say I had a problem. ;) I was just curious as to what point should I stop working on size, and focus on EQ.

It’s very interesting to read everyone’s comments, opinions and stories. There are some stories I can’t even relate too based on my own experiences. I wonder if there are members not relating to my experiences.

One thing that seems to come up frequently is bottoming out, and it being painful for her. There were a couple members that suggested there’s a way to tap the cervix and actually cause pleasure. Hmmm.. Which one is it, or both? I’ve hit bottom a few times, but very rare, and by her grimace I knew it caused a quick, temporary spike of pain. It was based on positioning, and that leads me the think that going much past 8” is only going to get me into more situations of potentially bottoming out. I’ve never been told that it was pleasurable because I was bottoming out.

Women’s vaginal muscles have the ability to expand to accommodate girth, but not so much to accommodate length based on genetics (correct me if I’m wrong). This petite lady I’ve been mentioning has by far the tightest vagina I’ve ever had. The first time we had sex I almost gave up after 4 tries. In time I was able to get partly inside her. We have been having sex for 2 months now. It still takes time to work it in, but after about 10-15 minutes, she can take the whole thing. Fortunately, she gets nice & wet, and it feels Fantastic! So if she’s the smallest, and still able to take me, I believe I’m safe to gain maybe just slightly in length (1/4 inch - goal 8.25”) and focus on girth (1/2 inch MSEG - goal 6.1”). Problem with gaining MSEG is that I don’t really need to grow much further on BSEG (already 7”). Now I’m rambling.. Ok, it’s getting late and I’m getting tired.

Bottoming out with my girlfriend only works when she’s on top, so she can make adjustments to the angle to get me to the right spot. She’ll get it there and grind on something that I think is her cervix, but I’m not entirely sure. All I know is that she cums in seconds when doing this and that my head is definitely sliding around on something. If I try it while doing missionary it doesn’t work, she just says it hurts and recoils. I think it’s mainly about rubbing around that area deep inside, rather than stabbing it with your penis. And, only sometimes will it work doggy style if it’s at just the right angle. Just my recent experience.

Originally Posted by JP7.5
Hey TNT. I read your thread and have seen you caution against overdoing it in several others. Really appreciate your posts because they are thoughtful and honest. That, and you and I are of very similar stature, so I figure your perspective may be similar in some ways. If I was married, I would definitely be careful about making sure I’m in tune with my wife’s needs.

A quick question: Do you think it has been your length or girth that caused the most problems for your you and your wife? I’m past you and firegoat’s recommended girth Max, but have never had a woman complain specifically about it being too much (vaginally, I mean).


You know JP7.5, it was several things going on in our lives. To answer your question, both girth and length, but she also started to be pre-menopausal and we did
not know it. She is a petite women with a very tight vagina. We were the best of friends until I over did it. I hit her cervix several times and it pissed her off to the
point of tears and then would blame me for gaining more for my ego and we were in it together but I decided to break away and gain more when she had asked me to
stop. Then the girth. The girth would make her vaginal walls bleed and she would be sore for a few days. We no longer were the best of friends we used to be. After
finding out that she was pre-menopausal things started to become more clear. I had to re-learn how to have sex with her. I had to and still have to know when to slow
down or when to finish. No more balls to the wall either. Sex was more enjoyable when I was 7.5 X 5.5. That is why I tell others here to be careful what they wish for.
The grass is not necessarily greener on the other side

By the way, we have both learned from this and are once again the best of friends. If you say, “I do”, you have to mean it, but you all must listen to each others partners.

We must understand, that when we over step a limit, there are prices/consequences that must be dealt with and one must know what is more important and how to obtain
what may have been lost. Hey guys, use your head, (no pun intended), customize it and do not over do it. How many times have I threaded that.

My present length and girth are only slightly bigger than my natural pre-PE measurements.

My first wife did not have difficulty taking my full size. She was a virgin when we were married. Both of us were in our early 20s. I knew that I was above average in size, and it would be necessary for me to be very gentle. We were married for many years before she died. We made love several times a week, and she climaxed nearly every time.

The second woman to whom I was married had no difficulty taking my size “balls to the wall” either. In fact she was one of those women who could get very wet very easily. That is a characteristic which is a big turn on for me.

After my divorce from her I met two couples who expressed an interest in three ways. The men were of average penis size. They had discussed with their wives the possibility of getting together with a man or men of larger size. I do not remember any more how I got involved, but it happened.

I was with one of the couples every couple of months for over two years. The other couple and I got together at least once a month for over three years. In fact a friend of mine also joined the three of us several times. My friend sports 7 x 5.5 inches.

The last woman I was with was a former girlfriend of the above mentioned friend. He had told her about the package I possessed. She expressed an interest in getting together with me. The meeting was arranged. She was quite surprised to see my size. In fact she was not sure about experiencing penetration by me.

I have always been one who took my time. One of my techniques has been mentioned in another thread here. I will tease the woman by easing only the glans in. My glans is quite large, measuring over 2 1/4 inches across. I will introduce it slightly, withdraw and reintroduce it a bit more. I repeat this process until I have achieved full penetration. I then go very slowly with the thrusting. I have the woman determine my speed. This has been a very successful process for me.


Stats:

08-12-2014 BPEL 8.875, EGMS 6.6, EGB 7.25, EW 2.101, EV 30.331, FL 6.75, FG 5.6, Glans Girth 6.5p

Originally Posted by tntjockey
You know JP7.5, it was several things going on in our lives. To answer your question, both girth and length, but she also started to be pre-menopausal and we did
not know it. She is a petite women with a very tight vagina. We were the best of friends until I over did it. I hit her cervix several times and it pissed her off to the
point of tears and then would blame me for gaining more for my ego and we were in it together but I decided to break away and gain more when she had asked me to
stop. Then the girth. The girth would make her vaginal walls bleed and she would be sore for a few days. We no longer were the best of friends we used to be. After
finding out that she was pre-menopausal things started to become more clear. I had to re-learn how to have sex with her. I had to and still have to know when to slow
down or when to finish. No more balls to the wall either. Sex was more enjoyable when I was 7.5 X 5.5. That is why I tell others here to be careful what they wish for.
The grass is not necessarily greener on the other side

Such an interesting post.


Starting November 2013 - BP 18.0 MSEG 14.0

March 2014 - BP 18.3 MSEG 14.5

Foto di Jugg

I’m at 7” x 5.5” and my wife is complaining about pain. She asked me to stop making it bigger. My current program is length phase with a ultimate goal of 8” (Be happy with 7.5”) and next phase is girth with a goal of 6” (Be happy with 5.75”).


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

It always amuses me when guys use the analogy that “well, women can accommodate a baby”! Yeah, maybe, but that doesn’t mean they want one shoved in and out of their vagina a couple hundred times! I’m currently 7” x 5.5” and my wife has been complaining about pain. She told me to quit making it bigger! My current ultimate goals are 8” x 6”. I will be happy with any gains at all though. It is really a matter of re-learning to utilize new size. You can’t slam an 8” x 6” in a woman who has spent 20 years with a 6” x 5” right out of the gate.. Got to be good form!


Starting stats NBPEL 6" x EG 4.125" --> Mar 2008 NBPEL 7" x EG 5.25" Current Stats 7" NBPEL x 5.6" EG (Post 1st Round PMMA)

My noose style extender modification

My jelq routine

Originally Posted by 9_in_richard
It always amuses me when guys use the analogy that “well, women can accommodate a baby”! Yeah, maybe, but that doesn’t mean they want one shoved in and out of their vagina a couple hundred times! I’m currently 7” x 5.5” and my wife has been complaining about pain. She told me to quit making it bigger! My current ultimate goals are 8” x 6”. I will be happy with any gains at all though. It is really a matter of re-learning to utilize new size. You can’t slam an 8” x 6” in a woman who has spent 20 years with a 6” x 5” right out of the gate.. Got to be good form!

Okay dude, you are going down the same wicked path I went through. She asked you to stop, but yet you continue. Prepare for the consequences.

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