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Originally Posted by ys

Oh a little sidenote about the infamous “Bloating” thread somewhere else: The way you can kick up your testosterone and other hormone levels by sheer autohypnotic imagery is really astonishing.. And it apparently helps healing my ligs if I don’t overdo it (*sigh* this “overdoing” problem is everywhere, isn’t it? :( ).


Ys, tell me more about that. I couldn`t found a thread on that. Thanks

Well, my statement was _then_ ;)
Nowadays I think the approach used in the Ballooning thread is: While it’s worthwhile _when_ you get there the sheer work you have to do in order to get there may not be worth it.
I prefer an easier approach now.. Just create some mindset where what you do and feel in this mindset is real to you in the “real” world.
Then just walk the way of the orgasm until you feel you will ejaculate in a few.
Then simply breathe in deeply, relax deeply while staying in the feeling of being about to ejaculate.

Of course, not fumbling with the ejaculation trigger zones (ie. the Corp. Cav. AKA where the urethra is.. or the dick’s head) helps a little.

This approach may not have excellent efficiency like the one shown in the bloating thread, but it’s not as mind boggling as the bloating approach.
Getting yourself into (a slight) insanity doesn’t really make sense for a healthy mind.. or body for that matter.

This was the short version.. Of course it implies you know a little about autohypnosis and a lot about your self (unlike yourself .. without the spaces).

Msg me if you need help.


She said you had a small dick huh? Well just remind her of what Tom Arnold said about his soon to be ex-wife, Roseanne, when she said very publicly that he had a little dick - "Hell, even a 747 looks small when you put it in the Grand Canyon". START: 2004-12-06 EBPL 6.70" BPEL, EG 5" CURRENT STATUS: Full Healing Break (Plasticized ligaments need time to heal -- Beware the rotating manual stretches ;) ) 2005-01-07 EBPL 7.68", EG 5" GOAL: EBPL 8.5" (ENBPL 7.9"), EG 6"

BTW sparkyx, I’m in the process of evaluating some other PE method (95% on the subconscious level) by a scientificish numerical comparison.
As of now the results are pretty good, compared to the time invested in physical PE ;) .

It’ll take some time to get to a conclusion though.. Until then..


She said you had a small dick huh? Well just remind her of what Tom Arnold said about his soon to be ex-wife, Roseanne, when she said very publicly that he had a little dick - "Hell, even a 747 looks small when you put it in the Grand Canyon". START: 2004-12-06 EBPL 6.70" BPEL, EG 5" CURRENT STATUS: Full Healing Break (Plasticized ligaments need time to heal -- Beware the rotating manual stretches ;) ) 2005-01-07 EBPL 7.68", EG 5" GOAL: EBPL 8.5" (ENBPL 7.9"), EG 6"

Good reading:)

I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Great Gains

Originally Posted by Shiver
It’s hard to post observations without posting speculations. I think I know exactly what is causing it, but it is a speculation at this point, so I’m reluctant to post it anyway.

I’ve noticed that when tissue is stretchy then gains are available, and when they’re stiff then we’re wasting our time (or even hurting gains potential). The only thing I’ve found so far that influences it is that PE intensity (negatively) influences it and time off (positively) influences it.

My current (variable) outlook is:

#1. Do no harm
#2. Recovery

That probably means doing about 10% of what is accepted wisdom. The posts Wad made about his friend making good gains without much effort never really left my consciousness when looking at this subject.

I absolutely agree with the above. (1) Do no harm doing about 10% of what is accepted wisdom (2) Recovery, (3) making good gains without much effort. Never do more than what will heal over night, do it every day with NO day(s) off. Weights, clamps,traction, wrapping are all too extreme for me. I may be just lucky but a mild dose of pumping, milking and stretching (by hand) has given me great short term gains in length, girth and total mass. Another little trick is to go after that one and a half or two inches of penis just within the body. Lube up, go as deep in above the hanging sac and stroke that part of the member. Milk and stretch, and carry that mass forward, all in one long swoop up to near the penis head. That is where you will find your easy gains in length. Move it from within to the outside. Worked for me! Ask for stats and time frame if you like.

Originally Posted by Kegelman

I have noticed if my workout is less than 15 minutes my penis is fatter and longer afterwards than if I do a 30 min set. Maybe it gets tired, I don’t really know. I have gone to shorter more frequent routines anyway.

Nice. Just doin some research don’t mind me. ;)

Just wanted to say, this thread rocks. It has literally saved me from falling into an overtraining rut. Thanks to you all 🙏

Hi everybody! I am new in pumping and I have some questions!

How can I obtain the donuts effect fast? I obtained it twice have been using the pump for 2 weeks almost daily. I can’t remember what I did for the donut.

1.High pressure?

2.Wet thing.?


4.Stay in for at least 40 min with medium pressure?

5.Pump .deflate for some good 30 minutes.?

How can I have a huge do-nut again? Help me!Thank you!

It’s not a good one to eat Homer!

(Yes you should avoid it)

You posted these questions elsewhere too! I answered you over there :)

I have had alot of gains here lately where I had none before. For me I think it is changing the routine and doing workouts usually immedietly after a hard workout session doing tabata intervals with running and weights. Those intervals are said to boost T levels for days after. May just be coincidence but for me it seems to work when nothing else has before.

Hey guys.. Greetings from Greece.. I ‘ve peing for about 3’s my opinion.. Many routines suggest that you take long courses of stretching and jelqing each day, like 4 or 5 days a week.. I think that’s just stupid.. Yes you can do 300 jelqs a session but only if you do it very and I mean VERY lightly. In that case I do not know if this is effective. Here’s what I got. I started on a BPEL of 6.8 and girth was about 5.2. I did light stretching grabbing and pulling at the base of my penis. Then I did about 150 quality hard squeezing dry jelqs at 50% erection, maybe 60%. I did that every day for 5 days. Then my dick went hard flaccid. And I mean it dissappeared. I also had erection problems. Pretty much my dick was dead. Now imagine what would have happened if I started at 200 or maybe 300 jelqs. I did not panick and did not touch my dick for a week. 6 days later I was back to normal. Then I started again. Doing light stretches the same way and 100 dry jelqs with flawless technique. My on days were M-W-F. No masturbation as I discovered that causes turtling.2 months later on that program I was 6.9 BPEL and my girth went up by 0.2. Then I increased my jelqs to 200 a session. Good call. No gains erect but my flaccid was huge 15 days later. Then I said what the heck and last week went about 300 jelqs and changed my routines to 2 days on and one off. Conclusion? Hard flaccid. No injury. I m in that state for about three days now. Erections are good though. What I am trying to say is that penis exercising needs to be done on a light program. In my opinion the penis enlarges with moderate training and low reps. That makes complete sense. Remember the last time you went on a sex marathon. And I mean having intercourse 3 or 4 consecutive times a day. How was your dick doing the next few days? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Penis exercising are no different for me. Great gains come with great care. Most people here just don’t have the patience for PE. It needs to be taken slow and steady and work your way over time. Nothing is rushing you. Don’t get excited with gains. I will continue PE after I m healed again. A minor consequence for being stupid. I won’t stop till I reach 7.0 NBPEL and 5.5 girth which I think is enough. Don’t want to scare the ladies. By the way.garlic, pommegranate juice, green tea with ginger, choline and l arginine are a must for PE as I discovered lately. Good for recovery.

Gracious thanks, sparkyx

Key signs of growth for me:

1. Longer and thicker after session
2. Red coloring, typical of clamping
3. Slight to moderate fluid buildup
4. Nice textured “bumpy” feeling on shaft
5. Head stretched with tip bloated
6. Soreness, growing type pains on the off days
7. Size appears ever so slightly larger than last session days before
8. Cock rings and clamp liner feeling tighter over time
9. Head location in relation to navel changes.
10. When totally flaccid, shaft feels very solid, like a pipe.

When gains slow, I ramp the intensity and growth starts back up. When gains slow or stop, my intensity is too low and tissues aren’t stressed enough I’ve noticed. Just my experience. Your mileage may vary…lol


Over the past year of clamping, 90 percent of my gains were during the 2 month period I happened to be on a bulking schedule in the gym. I was lifting more (sometimes 2x a day) and eating a slight surplus of calories. My musculature went up and my girth went up 1/4” during those months. I’m pretty sure it’s an indication of the power of growth hormone. The rest of the year I was either on vacation, dieting, or just not as focused (life happens too), so GH levels would have been lower.


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