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Weird Gains--But I'll take them!

Weird Gains--But I'll take them!

I’ve been doing nothing but hanging during the last month. Following the received wisdom, I was focusing on length first, then girth.

I did absolutely no girth work, right up to this week when I started doing some light dry jelqs for about 5 minutes first thing in the AM.

Well, today I decided to jelq (it’s my day off from hanging). I did about 300 reps with a decent erection: 70-80%. I noticed I felt thicker than normal and decided to measure.

Here are the results:

BPEL: Up 1/16” since I started hanging (not impressive, but I’ll take it).
EG (midshaft): Get this, up 1/8” since I strated hanging.

I know measuring right after a workout doesn’t really count, but this is how I always measure, so I believe these gains are real.

Anybody wanna explain this?

A lot of guys report this.

Yours is not to wonder why,
Yours is just to stretch and say,
Oh my!

:)

Alright! I can’t contain myself any longer. I have to give you my theory (I mean make one up!).

Length work causes the inner circumferential layer of the tunica to stretch “against the grain,” as it were. This layer is very weak in this direction. Stretching might cause the collagen fibers to laterally separate. This separation might weaken the fibers (make them less able to pull together in resisting pressure). This alone could enable more girthwise expansion. Also, (and here I’m really guessing, but I don’t think unreasonably) separation of adjacent collagen fibers might stimulate fibroblasts to fill in new fibers, promoting growth.

Sort of makes you wonder whether it’s really possible to entirely separate length work from girth work.

It might be interesting to apply this “lateral separation” theory to length gains. One way to do this would be to do classic “girth work” while limiting the erect length of the penis. For example, pumpers could insert a porous “stopper” in the end of their cylinders. Pump up so that your dick is fully erect but longitudinally compressed. This should 1) give you a hell of a girth workout and 2) help to tease apart the longitudinal fibers of the tunica, weakening the structure lengthwise and promoting new growth.

Any volunteers for guinea pigs?

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
Alright! I can’t contain myself any longer. I have to give you my theory (I mean make one up!).

Length work causes the inner circumferential layer of the tunica to stretch “against the grain,” as it were. This layer is very weak in this direction. Stretching might cause the collagen fibers to laterally separate. This separation might weaken the fibers (make them less able to pull together in resisting pressure). This alone could enable more girthwise expansion. Also, (and here I’m really guessing, but I don’t think unreasonably) separation of adjacent collagen fibers might stimulate fibroblasts to fill in new fibers, promoting growth.

Sort of makes you wonder whether it’s really possible to entirely separate length work from girth work.

It might be interesting to apply this “lateral separation” theory to length gains. One way to do this would be to do classic “girth work” while limiting the erect length of the penis. For example, pumpers could insert a porous “stopper” in the end of their cylinders. Pump up so that your dick is fully erect but longitudinally compressed. This should 1) give you a hell of a girth workout and 2) help to tease apart the longitudinal fibers of the tunica, weakening the structure lengthwise and promoting new growth.

Any volunteers for guinea pigs?

There are a number of alternate explanations that are just as reasonable. For one, it is just as possible that the break from jelq resulted in a decrease of extra collagen and or fibrin that built up during your last period of girth work. Without it there, you could simply have been able to get a better pump.

The devil’s you know what :D

That’s feasible, Mr. DA. I essentially gave myself a 1 month deconditioning break from girth work.

But, to get my old girth back plus 1/8” after just 300 jelqs sounds like something more. Either I gained girth during the break from inactivity, or I gained as a direct result of my length work.

I haven’t heard of people gaining immediately from inactivity. Have you??? Maybe after a couple of weeks. But after 300 jelqs ???

Bib made girth gains from hanging. Simply by subjecting the fibers to prolonged load, they not only elongated but they thickened as a result of the constant tension.

That could explain your 1/8” gain - or the 1 month of deconditioning might have made it happen (I’m a big proponent of strategic deconditioning - after taking a prolonged break, then gaining 0.22” EL only 3 weeks after resuming).

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
That’s feasible, Mr. DA. I essentially gave myself a 1 month deconditioning break from girth work.

But, to get my old girth back plus 1/8” after just 300 jelqs sounds like something more. Either I gained girth during the break from inactivity, or I gained as a direct result of my length work.

I haven’t heard of people gaining immediately from inactivity. Have you??? Maybe after a couple of weeks. But after 300 jelqs ???

Hold on a second, you don’t know that you have gained. You only know that you reached a new maximum expansion after a work out. I know that you measure that way and although there is a correlation between new maximum girths right after a work out and an actual gain it is by no means a stead fast rule. I for one have gone through periods prior to my “Extreme Extreme Uli” work where I reached new maximum girths immediately following a workout, only to loose them when I took a break. Others have experienced similar results.

Of course, this does not mean I think you are wrong. To be perfectly honest, I am on the fence concerning that like usual. I am only really decisive about my theories :D

I am always afraid a misunderstanding will take place so I just want to remind you that I have a great deal of respect for your intelligent and entertaining posting. I think a number of us here working on these types of problems make an excellent team.

Alright, back to the issue at hand.

Wad,
the same applies to you concerning my comment in another thread which I have worried a little about. If you don’t know what I mean, then never mind.

Thank you Penismith. The fact is I’ve had a break from my usual treadmill at work and have been trying to put my “free time” to good use. I think we’ve got some great threads going here, and I’m not offended at all by having people challenge my ideas. Some of them are kind of out there, I admit. But as I look back on our collective posting over the past month or two, I really think we’ve come a very long way in furthering our understanding. This has been great fun for me, and it would be much less fun if you and others stopped arguing.

COngrats!

Slap me 5! On second thought, lets just smash fore-arms :)

Thats great man, I will wet my silk underwear if I see any kind of gain. Congrats Modesto…


cead mile failte :lep:

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