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Originally Posted by wantsmore
This sounds like the kind of krikey that Oprah and her minons preach. It’s basically been lifted from her 10th sermon, “How to eat bon-bons on the couch all day and still feel terrific about yourself~!”

Ruthles Self Improvement, for me, ties into the idea of having Unlimited Awe and Curiosity for What Is Possible in this life. The idea that “insecurity” or a lack of “self acceptance” must neccesarily be at the root of such Self Improvement is nonsense. One could more forcefully and intelligently argue that you are actually preaching apathy and that Ruthless Self Improvement is one of the highest forms of Self Love.

Ahem….~!

Quoted so it’s read TWICE.

Great post.

if someone weighs 300 pounds and decides to get in shape I sure as hell think that’s so much better than this “self-acceptance” BS!

Originally Posted by Damnwork
Dr. Cox: “The key to my exercise program is this one simple truth, I hate my body. Do you understand the second you look in the mirror and you’re happy with what you see, baby, you just lost the battle.”

Self improvement does not mean you never accept what you see in the mirror. It simply means that someday you will look in the mirror and not despair. Then a few months down the road you look again and you say to yourself. Self I’m a stud! But I will keep on pressing on with it and see what else happens.

Never being satisfied is a lose lose battle. Be satisfied but continue for your mental healths best interest. I will probably never get rid of these love handles but I have managed to make them really really small.


Speak softly carry a big dick, I'm mean stick!


Last edited by kingpole : 06-23-2007 at .

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
So should someone never improve themselves by working out? Should we never try to improve our knowledge base to become smarter? Should we never be anything more than we are right now? I agree on being happy with who and what you are but I also hunger to better myself for the joy that gives me. I liked myself with a regular dick and I really like myself more with a big dick, I also like myself a lot more when I’m in the best physical shape that I can be in. But if PE was impossible I would be happy with what I had but since improvement is possible I’m down with it:)

This was the best answer in the whole thread. :D

Originally Posted by anon771

I think the real winners, the real overcommers, the ones who should be respected the most are the people who just accept their deformities (even if it’s in their own mind) and still have a cheerfull, positive attitude.

I have seen them. They are truly gifted.

We are all gifted. But you must make yourself able to get these gifts out.

You are one of these figure’s that will get the most respect of man. You are below average. If you learn to accept yourself fully especially your dick you will get there.

Everyone must be given respect, but if a guy like you overcome’s his dick problem that is mostly in his head people will respect you on a higher livel. It is something they don’t talk about. But silently they will admire you.

Maybe you get the initial funny looks in public showers for instance. But those man will remember you in one of their own silent moments and admire that you have managed to live a happy live when some of them may be miserable while having a big dick.


I, can, I can, I can not, can not compute..

Thank you wantsmore and Dino, your posts made my day. :)

Originally Posted by anon771
We are all gifted. But you must make yourself able to get these gifts out.

You are one of these figure’s that will get the most respect of man. You are below average. If you learn to accept yourself fully especially your dick you will get there.

Everyone must be given respect, but if a guy like you overcome’s his dick problem that is mostly in his head people will respect you on a higher livel. It is something they don’t talk about. But silently they will admire you.

Maybe you get the initial funny looks in public showers for instance. But those man will remember you in one of their own silent moments and admire that you have managed to live a happy live when some of them may be miserable while having a big dick.

Yes, but you can get to that place and still want and fight for more. It’s not one or the other, it can be both.

My time run out…

You will also set an example for other guys of your size.

One time, maybe six years ago I went clubbing with my friends. At the time I was paranoid about the size of my nose. (At that time I was 13.5 cm) I sneeked out of the grouped, depressed and walking home in the night in Amsterdam to my place. Then I bought a hotdog from a guy in the street in the middle of the night. I asked him with a trembling voice “why is everyone grabbing their noses when they look at me”? Do you understand it. He had a little nose to. Not that all little nose guys have little dicks, but I think he had, because he understood… (I am not sure of course of his cock, but at least he understood me)

He said; “people don’t understand it, they don’t know how you feel” He began to tell me about his wife and his kids which sounded to me that he wanted to encourage me. I did not ask for that information. That he was saying between the line’s that he had a below average penis and still had a nice family. That man made my day that day and I won’t forget it. You can be one of those guys Ulcaster when you get older for other young guys who are insecure of there penis.


I, can, I can, I can not, can not compute..

I completely agree with Dino’s position on this issue. I like myself better the harder I work to improve. I also believe that if I am not improving, I’m regressing. It is hard to simply maintain, especially as I age. I think there is a big difference between accepting actual deformities and trying to improve areas which can actually be improved. As for my dick, I like it a lot better now that it is bigger and thicker than when I was 21.

OK we’ve established that now anon is officially on crack. :D But really WHO CARES ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE! This is YOUR life and you are the only one in the world that has to live with your body. Modify it however you want. I remember when I was injured and we had a football game. All the players kept on pressuring me to play because I’m not one to show pain but my injury was really bad. Sure I could’ve sacrificed my body for the team but then logic kicked in. If I permanently injure myself, at the end of the day, I have to go home and feel the pain while everyone else is pain-free. Not that they wouldn’t have done the same with only half the pain I felt. The moral of this story is, don’t include other people’s opinions on what to do with your body unless you know their opinion is a good one. Why live with a small dick when you KNOW that you can make it bigger? Why live with tiny muscles when you know you can make them bigger? Why exercise when you can just get fat? Why take baths when you can just smell like shit? :D You make penis enlargement seem like its a taboo or something that is terribly wrong. MAybe you have other issues.

It sounds like your PoV, anon, is based from the bias that self-improvement is directly related to self-loathing. That however, is not the case for a vast majority of people. Ideas like that breed anorexia as a previous poster said.

I like weightlifting and PEing because when I’m walking around dick swinging and muscles pumped I am more sexually appealing (if only from my perception alone it still has an effect on myself-esteem) but more so from that I love knowing that I chose to invest the time and effort to do that for myself.


Starting BPEL and EG 7 x 5 as of 3/30/07. I'm sure it's bigger now but I'll measure after this tub of vaseline is empty =)....as of 6/10/07 BPEL 7.25 and EG of 5.6 GOAL: 8 x 6.5...I'm on my way.

However, I would like to issue a disclaimer and admit that I am “faking myself”….just not with PE…..:sheepdo:


THEN: bpel 6.0 eg 5.0 bpfsl 6.125 NOW: bpel 7.375 eg 5.25 bpfsl 7.625

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"Right now our only hope is in the hydrogen bomb." - Charles Bukowski

Originally Posted by anon771
Still I consider myself a winner deepdown. A real winner. But the fact that I can’t be a genuine overcommer of all this pe stuff humble’s me. A real winner is good, and it’s good to have something to keep you humble, but I still want to become this genuine overcommer that will throw all this penis stuff out out of the window and just accept myself deeply within. I think I can get there and I hope the same for other people.

At first you had me, because I understand the ‘self-acceptance’ thing. And agree. But then you lost me at the end. It makes me think your real battle doesn’t have anything to do with PE, but you are focusing on it as an ‘arena’ to view yourself, and your activity in it may make you think you don’t accept yourself.

Maybe I’m off on that.

I have seen, over the past 5-6 years, many dudes who were struggling inside and thought that PE was the answer, then evidence of a problem, and then back and forth.

I say, get your head straight about it all, and then if you really want the extra growth for some good reason, all the more then go for it. You know it’s possible. I am personally doing it because I want a little more stroke in particular positions. I’ve had enough great, sincere compliments from women to know how they think about me and my body. I don’t need a bit more meat to make my head any better.

But if you want it for ego - and there are shitloads of guys who are here for that, I say - you are truly fucked up inside. No need to even elaborate why. They exist here in droves, but so do guys with their heads on straight.

It’s obvious you’re in some type of inner turmoil. I hope you find some peace, mate. PE ain’t your enemy, and it ain’t your friend. No more than some stupid iron weights are. It’s just a method - a means to an end.

Originally Posted by anon771
We are all gifted. But you must make yourself able to get these gifts out.

You are one of these figure’s that will get the most respect of man. You are below average. If you learn to accept yourself fully especially your dick you will get there.

Everyone must be given respect, but if a guy like you overcome’s his dick problem that is mostly in his head people will respect you on a higher livel. It is something they don’t talk about. But silently they will admire you.

Maybe you get the initial funny looks in public showers for instance. But those man will remember you in one of their own silent moments and admire that you have managed to live a happy live when some of them may be miserable while having a big dick.

I understand what you are trying to say, but I wonder why we wonder about these things!

How does anyone know that he “has a problem” with his dick, or that it doesn’t work just as well as another one of a different size? We are all here for the purpose of healthier dicks and if possible, make some gains in length and girth. But, that is just a plus as far as I am concerned.

All my life I’ve had a dick that was/is considered “below average”, but regardless of it’s size, it has always worked for me, given me (and others) pleasure, and it has done a damn good job of it at that. I have “never” been, nor am I at this moment, “unhappy” with what I have. Now, if I had one that was deformed and just plainly didn’t work, then that would be a different kettle of fish. But, I accept what I have, but will try to make it better, bigger and more healthy.

When a child of 7, 8, 9, 10 or so, the showers at the YMCA were anathema to me and I would do anything to keep from being there to shower with other kids of my age. Most of the boys had already begun to mature and I had not. They had privates that they were already proud of, I had nothing to be proud of. But, I tried to act as if I didn’t care and was deaf to their snickering. Most of the time it worked and after awhile the taunting stopped. Especially when I started to grow “black pubic hair” and they hadn’t grown any. I then learned to be damn “proud” of what I had. and I was very aware I had something they didn’t have, and from then on my “problem” was never a “problem” for me again. Later in life I “knew” my dick worked well, so it was even less of a problem. I do believe a lot of our worries are in our heads. Many years later, one of those who did the most taunting, committed suicide. His brother later told me that he his brother was convinced that his dick was too big (and it was!) and was too flat (instead of round) and after one try at intercourse, and the derogatory comments from the girl, he took his life.

To tell you the truth, I will never accept that I can’t be a better and healthier person, a better brother, a better friend, that I can’t learn something new (I’m studying Chinese and Greek at the moment), or do something to help better the environment or make the earth a better place on which all can live. If I just accept the way things were/are, stand still, and never try to be or do better, I would just vegetate and be good for absolutely nothing. I always must strive for betterment in all things. That’s just what I am all about.

I whole heatedly agree with the comments of Dino9x7.


Started 4/9/07: Bpel 4.438 Eg 3.750 - Fl 3.750 Fg 3.500

Now 07/08/09: Bpel 5.625 Eg 5.875 Fl 4.625 Fg 5.813....Goal: Bpel 7.500 Eg 6.500 - Fl 5.500 Fg 6.000

"PE inorder to give more Happiness & Joy to yourself AND others!" Panos *** "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.

Originally Posted by Panos
How does anyone know that he “has a problem” with his dick, or that it doesn’t work just as well as another one of a different size? We are all here for the purpose of healthier dicks and if possible, make some gains in length and girth. But, that is just a plus as far as I am concerned.

Panos, I’ve learned over the years that different guys are here for different things. Surprising array, actually.

I think a big part of this issue is feeling subjected to the general sense of propaganda that swirls in our society via the media, whatever format. More than any generation, we are bombarded by marketing geniuses who know how to get inside the Average Joe’s head - heck, most people’s head, even if it takes a slow, light bombardment. I think porn is especially virulent and has a HUGE corrupting effect on what people think regarding sex and self image. Point is, our society is image-centered, and the media - all of it - knows that. And hence, all sorts of self-doubting comes into people’s lives once in awhile.

The media has to be handled with caution, IMO. A person has to know exactly what is affecting their core self-concepts and deal with that, or become a victim in some way or another. Happens all the time.

BustaHymes,

You hit the nail on the head, my friend!


Started 4/9/07: Bpel 4.438 Eg 3.750 - Fl 3.750 Fg 3.500

Now 07/08/09: Bpel 5.625 Eg 5.875 Fl 4.625 Fg 5.813....Goal: Bpel 7.500 Eg 6.500 - Fl 5.500 Fg 6.000

"PE inorder to give more Happiness & Joy to yourself AND others!" Panos *** "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.

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