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Originally Posted by BPTony
I’ve just come across this threat and realize that EQ is a whole lot more than I thought it was. When I;m on a good regime of various supplements and a reasonable PE routine my EQ is pretty good, but if not I may get an erection with stimulation and although it may be a pretty good one it doesn’t last like it did a few years ago. I remember times where my erection could throb for hours and when I ejaculated it would bounce back within about 10 mins.

Yeah, I was like that when I was 18 also.

Haha!

But seriously, E.Q. Is critical and no gains are worth a limp dick.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

I’m travelling in Asia this week. Two mornings ago I woke up with a raging boner, so I did some stretches, then jelqs and squeezes, bathmate 10 minutes, more squeezes, and another 10 minutes BM. I got a good pump out of it that lasted most of the day, but I did notice my dick felt a bit tired all day. Yesterday morning only moderate wood even though I had taken a Cialis.

Anyways I’m flirting with a few Vietnamese girls but it’s been weeks since I had sex (working offshore) and I haven’t even masturbated in days. So yesterday afternoon I finally get one to my hotel, a dripping wet screamer, and I seriously mean SCREAMER. I licked her to a super sloppy orgasm first, then fucked her and I blow my first load in like 5 minutes. Usually with a girl like that I’ll stay hard and can keep going in a few minutes. Yesterday no way, I waited 30 minutes and had to do some serious slapping to manage a 6/10. The screaming gets me so excited I only lasted a few minutes the second time too. But hey she said I was her biggest ever and she had had enough anyways (I don’t hear that very often).

Anyways to make a long story short, overtraining definitely kills EQ. Even before she arrived i knew my dick wasn’t 100%. I’ll have to be careful the next time I get a few days off over here!


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Well if you want a straight answer to whether I’ve had improved EQ week after week, then no, I’ve had no improved EQ based on how you’ve defined it.

Though I feel it’s a bit misguided that people should be looking for the signs of EQ as you state them, as what creates and maintains an erection is dependent upon what turns a guy on, and every day, week, month we are exposed to different things that eroticise our mind, which then affects our penis. So with always differing stimulations affecting how frequently and quickly we get erect or stay erect, it’s very hard for me at least to state if any of this has improved.

It’s not like every sexy thing that I look at or think about affects me by the same number on a 1-10 scale every day, which would make it easier to see if I get EQ improvements. ie if every sexy stimulation hit me as a 7 on this scale every day and every week then if I got erect over these stimulations quicker, more regularly and more solidly, then yes there would be an increase in EQ, but as every sexy stimulation isn’t always 7, how can I measure if I’m getting harder more quicker or regluar etc. of such reactions are dependant upon the strength of what influences them?

But be that as it may, I’ll give you the best straightforward practical answer as I can for my erections over the last 3 months of doing PE exercises…

My Ease of erections is still the same.

Frequency of erections hasn’t improved.

Hardness of erections. I’m as solid as I ever was before.

How long they last before fading, ease of keeping them. - Same again.

Refractory period (how quickly you can get hard again after ejaculation). Characteristic of what gets me hard.

In fact, all of the above is also a bit subjective and dependent upon what would get me erect and keep me that way, what stimulates me etc. so I find it very hard for anyone to measure how any of the above could become ‘improved’ unless they were being sexually stimulated by the same thing week after week.

Something a bit more clearer though as it seems to be controlled by the subconscious…

Nite and morning wood. - No improvement there. As far as I have observed and remembered, I hardly get night and morning wood, and this still the same.

So it seems that after doing PE exercises for 3 months, albeit I did my stretches incorrectly, I have had no length gains and also no EQ improvement, and contrary to what other people say in this place that I should keep on trucking until something happens, according to you, I should just stop? Sounds a bit wrong to me, as does your definition of my potential to get any length gains - my EQ ‘improvement’.

Jay Flash
This thread is complementary to this one:
Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to help growth!

Of course its different for everyone. These are no exact numbers and comparisons. Its all in relation. So you have to examine that for yourself.
The conclusion is nowhere that you should stop. The conclusion is that if you lack EQ and dont gain then you might rest until it gets better.

As your EQ seems to have been staying the same you have to increase the intensity. Espacially if you are not gaining.
Of course this is not black and white. Might also be you need more variation or more time..this only you yourself can check out. What sparky provides are pointers and no exact science.

For me when Im increasing intensity I get most times a much better EQ right the next day. When I hit that spot I keep on doing what I do.
The moment my EQ drops I have basicly two options: decrease intensity/time or increase Intensity/time. OR any combo of these two like less-intensity/more-time.
You have to listen to your body here. Finding that point of gaining and maintaining functionality is the art of PE..and its highly individualistic. So you keep track of that and adjust accordingly. Over time you get the experience needed to know how you react to what stimulus.

I think in your case if you dont gain and see no difference and your EQ stays the same you might need to increase intensity/time. If EQ drops then you tweak your routine until EQ is better. If EQ rises keep on doing what you do. If EQ rises/stays the same but you dont gain..increase intensity/variation/time.

Hope that helped..if not ask away..

Yeah I also checked out the PI thread too. Apart from getting thicker veins I haven’t really seen other PIs either. Maybe my penis hangs at it’s more longer flaccid length more often, but I can’t say that it has hung at a longer flaccid length than before doing PE exercises.

I’ve been increasing my heating, stretching (though I did this wrong, I was 30 second jelqing instead for nearly 3 months), jelqing all along. I don’t think I got an EQ improvement.

I started doing the Newbie Routine 3months ago, and since then I’ve increased stretching (albeit wrong technique) from 5 mins to now 10 minutes, and jelqing went from the minimum (5 or 10 mins) to now 25 mins, all this gradually done. Also heating went from 7 minutes to about 8. So I’ve increased intensity as well as improving my technique.

Generally speaking I’ve had no EQ increase. No increased evening or morning wood, I don’t find that any sexual stimulation whether visual, physical, or mental has got me harder quicker or has maintained itself for longer, or been more solid than before doing PE Exercises, regardless of what the intensity of these stimulations are on a 1-10 scale.

So I can’t see what else I can do. As for taking a break, sod that.


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December 2015 BPEL - 5 3/4" BPEG - 6 1/2" (Measured around base)

Yeah when you got no difference in EQ then its not much information in the context of PI ‘s. So I would say you might provocate this inforamtion a bit.

If you want to improve your erection strength specificaly then BC Kegels and IC kegels(reverse kegels) in different variations might help you..
..basicly strengthening your pelvic floor muscles and brain connection to them.

If nothing helps it might be cause of health reasons. Having strong leg muscles and a trained healthy good blood circulation and pumping body helps too.
Next step is foods and herbs that help EQ( I like for small EQ drops gingko and ginseng). Last one is medical drugs…

Regarding gaining.. Increase intensity/time until you see a noticable change in state.
Some people need to reach extreme intensitys and times while others need less time and much rest. Some of the big gainers did PE all day long in some form.

I think you need to up first the intensity/time to the point that you feel fatigue. That you really feel..aha my unit is worked and I might need some rest.
IMO from this point its easier to determine where to go. Of course not within one day from 0 to 100. After 3 months of continious PE you should be ready to test(!!!) your limits a bit(never pain obv..).
You might for example think about another set morning or evening..
PE isnt easy as you see already and needs more effort and dedication, knowledge then bodybuilding in my opinion.
good luck

I think that my erections have gotten weaker

Hello

OP .
I’m newbie ..
Can I ask some question about EQ .
Am doing jelq 4days on ..
My dick feels numbed and my EQ is weak .
But my flaccid penis get firm in just 4days .. I tried to masturbate
It and I didn’t get 100% hard

What should I do ??
Its mean that I done it not properly ?
This is actually what I do ..
60-70% erect when I jelq ..
Holding sharp from base to the below of the head .
I do wet jelq 4-5 sec pushing .. Is this correct ?

Sorry for my poor English .
This is not my native .

Originally Posted by 5inch toydick
OP .
I’m newbie ..
Can I ask some question about EQ .
Am doing jelq 4days on ..
My dick feels numbed and my EQ is weak .
But my flaccid penis get firm in just 4days .. I tried to masturbate
It and I didn’t get 100% hard

What should I do ??
Its mean that I done it not properly ?
This is actually what I do ..
60-70% erect when I jelq ..
Holding sharp from base to the below of the head .
I do wet jelq 4-5 sec pushing .. Is this correct ?

Sorry for my poor English .
This is not my native .

Your technique sounds correct. I would take 1-2 weeks off and see if your EQ returns. Once it returns limit PE to every other day at most until you’re conditioned more.


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EQ specially depends on how often you jerk off.

This is a great thread but I feel my EQ really depends on how much I jerk off . if I’m studying and want to focus I’d jerk off even up to 3 times. I know its not good tho. When I’m about to see a girl I don’t masturbate in 3 or 4 days and I edge instead and it is hard for me not too jerk off. My EQ is great those days. So seeing those indicators is quite difficult.


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Very informative


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Originally Posted by quim92
This is a great thread but I feel my EQ really depends on how much I jerk off . if I’m studying and want to focus I’d jerk off even up to 3 times. I know its not good tho. When I’m about to see a girl I don’t masturbate in 3 or 4 days and I edge instead and it is hard for me not too jerk off. My EQ is great those days. So seeing those indicators is quite difficult.

What EQ actually stands for is ERECTILE QUALITIES. So, if you read the thread its a bunch of qualities evaluated together that gives you EQ. So, if you look at them together as a whole it will give a fairly accurate read. Just reading one its very easy to get a false read.

As far as jerking off…some can do it all day and not effect their EQ, some even once a week can effect it negatively. You really have to see how it effects you.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
For the sake of clarity, let me first define EQ. This is a new term I’ve recently introduced (as of first writing this article), and is important to understand exactly what it means.

EQ basically is the characteristics of Erectile Qualities some of the major ones are as follows;

  1. Ease of erections (how easily it happens).
  2. Frequency of erections (how frequently they happen).
  3. Hardness of erections.
  4. How long they last before fading, ease of keeping them.
  5. Refractory period (how quickly you can get hard again after ejaculation).
  6. Nite and morning wood.

The key to evaluating your EQ is the SUM TOTAL of all of these indicators, taken together! You may find one or two categories may temporarily drop, but if the rest remain the same, the drop is a false indicator. For example, young guys could get nervous with a new girl on a date and lose their erection, but nite and morning wood is still very high.. Chances are its just nerves and not a real drop in EQ.

True EQ drop will usually effect ALL THE CATEGORIES AT THE SAME TIME! Conversely, a true rise in EQ usually will effect all the categories also at the same time. You evaluate EQ as the sum of it all.
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THE EQ THREAD

This is just a note that will seem very obvious to some and a new concept to others.. PROPER PE WILL GIVE YOU HARDER AND MORE FREQUENT ERECTIONS!

If you already have experienced that, than you can leave now. If this is a new concept to you, than stick around.

Not everyone gains from PE, for some success comes quickly and easily. Others not so easy or quick, and some.can’t seem to get any improvement.

For the last two categories.. Let me just give you a very important tip. Greatly improved EQ (erectile quality) is something EVERYONE can achieve with PE.. Unless you already have frequent and easy rock hard erections.

For the rest of us, PE can increase the hardness, frequency and ease of erections.. IF IT IS DONE RIGHT!

What is doing PE right? Getting the proper stimulation to recovery ratio. The other CRITICAL factor is.. Drum roll please..

IF YOU GET VASTLY IMPROVED EQ.. YOUR CHANCES OF GROWTH ARE FAR BETTER!

I have almost NEVER heard of someone getting great growth, while getting deceased EQ.why? A BEAT TO SHIT DICK DOESN’T GROW!

So, if you find you are not growing, or having a very hard time gaining, I suggest you go for great EQ first, then you will find you will have a much better chance of making gains.

So how do you do that?

If you are currently doing PE and you haven’t had improved EQ or worse yet, you have had DECREASED EQ.. Take 2-3 weeks off.. COMPLETELY OFF.

If you have been over training, you will find after about a week or so, your EQ will start to improve. It may continue to improve for several weeks, at which point it will slowly begin to decrease again. This is the point to begin training again.

I would suggest a very simple routine, far less than you had before. Something like 5 minutes of modest jelqing and 5 minutes of kegels every other day or less (kegels are VERY important).

Remember what your EQ was like at its best or highest point, and make sure you maintain that level or at least never be more than one rest day away from that point.

This becomes your baseline.. Your anchor point. If you find that as you PE your EQ gets even better.. THAT becomes your new baseline. Your highest level of EQ should always be your new baseline, because the better your EQ, the greater your chances of being in the growth zone.

So, now with this new baseline, you can slowly increase your PE in whatever force/time variation you choose. My only note on that is I truly believe that if you are unable to get a good erection when you are done, it is probably too much.

[Hanging MAY be an exception, but I would say that if you aren’t getting your baseline EQ back by the next day, it was too much force/time.]

My personal belief is that great nite wood not only indicates you aren’t over training, but I believe it helps cement gains. When my EQ is great (I’m 49), I will literally be rock hard for hours at nite, it will even wake me up.

When I am over training, I get almost no nite wood. Rock hard wood at nite MUST play a huge roll in cementing if not even some gaining.. In my thinking.

So, if you are one of those guys that isn’t gaining, and have let your EQ drop into a poor state.. Consider giving this a try.

UPDATE NOTE; many times I get NO notification of new posts with questions, so if you have written a question on this thread, PLEASE pm me to let me know you have posted a question here, and I will reply. Thanks!

Thanks your article, but I don’t understand what is mean of this sentence?. I get almost no nite wood. Rock hard wood at nite MUST play a huge roll in cementing if not even some gaining…in my thinking.

Ok let talk myself.. I training start from February 2014 to now, but I work busy and other something around have to stop two month.. And I training five day and rest two day .after few week I find it was really working for me BUT IT WAS still few weeks .now I still training never give up .but sometime when I training I feel it hardness ecrection it mean is need rest 2-3 weeks ?

Originally Posted by Chicken

Sparkyx, thank you for that smart and needed post. Needed not because I have decreased EQ, but because everyone who does or starts PE should put this thread on the must read list.

Yes this really really important .my friends also training ,but they are most do it just few month because they feel it very difficult growth and someone get Prostate Disease who do wrong jelq

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