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Here you go gram40, don’t forget to copy the coupon and put it in the box before getting the free samples.

Should arrive in about a week or sooner, hope they work for you better than they did for me.

http://www.genalis.com/order.htm

Thanks EZ Rider………….where you taking the 10mg or 20 mg tablets, maybe that was the difference for you……….

Just a General Word of Caution:

from MrTiPS

Viagra was early on intended as a treatment for hypertension in that it acts as a vasodialator (so does Cialis). If any of you guys are taking other supplements like L-Argenine in quantity, please check out the characteristics of everything you are ingesting. For example, L-Argenine produces nitrous oxide, in-situ, which acts as a vasodialor helping speed blood flow (and helping erections) but also dropping blood pressure. The combined effects could be serious. Another case for alarm in this area is many of the penis pill formulations contain Yohimbe which, by itself and in the absence of other substances that affect blood pressure might be fine in moderation but, in certain combinations with other substances or at high dosages, could be life-threatening. Even something as innocuous as grapefruit juice, in combination with certain prescription medications can be toxic and life-threatening because of interactions. Designer drugs were developed to target specific enzymes in the body to produce certain effects - problem is, most of the enzymes they target are found in most of the organ systems in the body so you get all kinds of side effects.

Please take care and all the best,

MrTiPS

An interesting secondary reason to take V is it increases blood flow to the lungs; thus carrying additional needed oxygen for those with COPD. It is the only medicine known to increase blood flow to the lungs. I have used Silagra for two years with excellent results in both enhancing erections and oxygen to the lungs. Started at 25mg but now takes 50mg but of course I’m old. Were I a runner I would definitely pop one 45 min prior to race.

Originally Posted by MrTips
Another case for alarm in this area is many of the penis pill formulations contain Yohimbe which, by itself and in the absence of other substances that affect blood pressure might be fine in moderation but, in certain combinations with other substances or at high dosages, could be life-threatening.


MrTips, please explain. Thanks.

WB9x7 (HANK)

WB9x7,

Here’s a link that does a pretty good job of explaining some of the potential problems with Yohimbe bark, and Yohimbine, the extract that should only be taken by prescription:

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshe…525,830,00.html

My point is that it’s easy to take a product (like a penis pill) and not realize that an ingredient as active as Yohimbe can interact strongly with other foods, supplements, and medicines. I have personally seen it both drop diastolic blood pressure and raise heart rate and systolic pressure at the same time. The product I was checking was Dr. Al Sears Testomax. It hit me hard enough that I couldn’t take the supplement. I got a milder reaction from another supplement with Yohimbe, too. Now I’m not putting down Sears product. The bottle is clearly labled. I knew it had Yohimbe in it. What I didn’t realize was the strong interaction it had with dark chocolate which is probably what really gave me such a jolt. In my situation, I probably have a heightened sensitivity to Yohimbe. Also, I am not saying other folks shouldn’t take Yohimbe but be careful - it has a wide array of potential interactions - and one of them really got me good.

All the Best,

MrTiPS

Hey Still how much do pay for the Ge V, and where do you get from?

Pete

This thread is old and still is not in the building anymore, I think the place he was ordering from has closed check the supplement forum and their are some threads with places than you can still order from.


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Originally Posted by MrTips
WB9x7,

Here’s a link that does a pretty good job of explaining some of the potential problems with Yohimbe bark, and Yohimbine, the extract that should only be taken by prescription:

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshe…525,830,00.html

My point is that it’s easy to take a product (like a penis pill) and not realize that an ingredient as active as Yohimbe can interact strongly with other foods, supplements, and medicines. I have personally seen it both drop diastolic blood pressure and raise heart rate and systolic pressure at the same time. The product I was checking was Dr. Al Sears Testomax. It hit me hard enough that I couldn’t take the supplement. I got a milder reaction from another supplement with Yohimbe, too. Now I’m not putting down Sears product. The bottle is clearly labled. I knew it had Yohimbe in it. What I didn’t realize was the strong interaction it had with dark chocolate which is probably what really gave me such a jolt. In my situation, I probably have a heightened sensitivity to Yohimbe. Also, I am not saying other folks shouldn’t take Yohimbe but be careful - it has a wide array of potential interactions - and one of them really got me good.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


Thanks MrT for this additional useful information and for the link. I would stress again that people should notice the huge distinction between yohimbe (the bark) and yohimBINE (the active ingredient extracted from the bark), and the proper dosage for each.

I agree that people taking products containing yohimbe (the bark) or yohimbine (the pure alkaloid extract) can be confused about the side effects and proper dosage. The reason I asked for more information on your earlier statement was that I couldn’t tell which yohimbe/yohimbine side effects you were talking about (whether high or low BP), and I thought this should be clarified for our readers.

It might be worth pointing out that the dosage form that FDA has approved contains 5.4 mg of yohimbine (the pure alkaloid substance) per tablet. On the other hand, one over-the-counter supplement product I’ve used, GNC’s Herbal Plus, contains 450 mg of yohimbe bark extract, 2% of which, or 9 mg, is yohimbine. Thus, a GNC tablet contains 167% of yohimbine in the FDA-approved product.

For better or worse, supplements like the GNC product are sold perfectly legally without prior approval by FDA, including lack of approval of the labeling and directions for use, under special provisions of Congress following strong lobbying by the supplements industry. Consequently, I again agree with your caution that people should be very careful in self-medicating themselves with such potentially dangerous drugs.

As for myself, several years ago I obtained an Rx from a urologist for the FDA-approved tablets containing 5.4 mg yohimbine each. After considerable experimentation, I settled on one-half a tablet dosage (or 2.7 mg yohimbine). When my prescription ran out, I was no longer a patient of the urologist, but I continued to use yohimbine, this time in the form of one-quarter of a GNC tablet, i.e., 9 mg/4 = 2.25 mg yohimbine per quarter tablet, or about 41% of the FDA-approved 5.4-mg dosage.

One final observation and comment: As you pointed out earlier, Viagra was originally intended for use in lowering blood pressure, and Lavitra and Cialis are similar to Viagra in this respect. I normally have to take medication for high BP, but when I also take a V, L or C tablet, my BP goes down so far I feel lethargic and dull. However, a quarter tablet of the GNC product seems to level out my BP and still give me that special feeling that only yohimbine can, which is that my dick calls attention to itself with every thought and I can’t keep my hands off it!

WB9x7 (HANK)

WB9x7,

A really excellent and well-structured response. I might add that a person is generally ahead with herbals and botanicals from reputable sources if he/she takes the whole herb and not an extract. Many times, the whole, natural source has other agents that tend to buffer and soften the impact of an otherwise concentrated extract. In the case you cite, you take a conservative approach by taking the bark (Yohimbe) in an amount that practically matches the doseage of Yohimbine (extract) that you used to take by prescription. I think you have taken a safe, conservative approach and your blood pressure regulation no doubt reflects that. You’ve set a good example that (I hope) others will pay attention to.

All the Best,

MrTiPS

Originally Posted by MrTips
WB9x7,

A really excellent and well-structured response. I might add that a person is generally ahead with herbals and botanicals from reputable sources if he/she takes the whole herb and not an extract. Many times, the whole, natural source has other agents that tend to buffer and soften the impact of an otherwise concentrated extract. In the case you cite, you take a conservative approach by taking the bark (Yohimbe) in an amount that practically matches the doseage of Yohimbine (extract) that you used to take by prescription. I think you have taken a safe, conservative approach and your blood pressure regulation no doubt reflects that. You’ve set a good example that (I hope) others will pay attention to.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


MrT, thanks very much for your generous remarks about my post (and sorry for the long delay in responding). It is comforting to know that we both have a similar approach to the often confusing world of supplements, their labeling, and the identity and dosage of what we’re really ingesting.

But getting back to SWM’s original thread starter about Viagra and girth, I would just note that, for those who need a little extra boost in erectile level during PE, a small amount of yohimbine could possibly enhance the effects of your usual dose of Viagra, Lavitra or Cialis (or their generic equivalents).

WB9X7 (Hank)

I recently ordered something from budgetmedicines.com and got the order in 1.5 weeks. Their prices are quite good if you’re buying the larger quantities.

I personally would go with Tadalafil(Cialis) since when I take 10mg of that I go for about 36 hours with a nearly non-stop semi.

Natural hard work gets it done

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