Viagra and pe gains{the missing link?}

Right on MDC for giving me the heads up. I should be getting my Silagra here pretty quick.
In these last few weeks what kind of changes if any have you noticed?

Southpaw, interesting note on the 25mg dose. I guess Pfizer is relating to men with actual ED problems, not healthy males who use viagra recreationally, right? I assume so as many report getting stellar erections with only 25 mg…

Could one use just 25mg along with tagament to get a 50mg dose effect? Logic would seem to support this…

What about grapefruit juice?? It seems to potentiate many other drugs, I wonder if Viagra is one of them?

RB

Good thinking that would bring the cost way down!

dino

I did the math at genegra.com Dino, and if one could get 25mg to work, you get damn near a year’s supply for $60 or so… pretty freaking sweat :)

I’m REAL close to pulling the trigger on this deal…

RB,

Just go ahead and order. 25mg definitely does something.

RB

I’m going for it, I still have some of the real stuff that cost me an arm and a leg over the internet. So when it’s low I will order some or I might just order some next week anyway.

Dino

Thought I should chime in on this one.

Agree with Dino and PEforeal, biting of 1/2 of a 50´, chew on it and let it be under the tounge for 30 sec. or so, then swallow the other 1/2 is a FAST way to get the results from V.

Taste is not so nice though. make sure you rinse your mouth with something before even thinking on kissing your lover :-)

About dosage, I have minor ED problem sometimes, a 25mg dose use to make a LOT of difference. 50 or 100 makes me a fucking machine but also gives me a little to much of the side effects like “tight nose” (like when you have the flue) strange vision and “heavy head”.

I like to workout erect and that is sometimes hard when I´m, not in the mode, V is a great help if I want a productive session if I´m tired or so.

Haven´t been PEing seriously for a long time but will take a month and go really intense with L-Arginin and V enhanced sessions.

Oh, btw, one time a long time ago I had the same EBPL as FLSSBPL (flacid-length-seriously-stretched-bonepressed-lenght :-) I have never had as big an erection as back then. That time I think I was on; Yohimbe, Ginseng, Ginko, Arginin AND Viagra. A littel jelqing/squeezeing/pumping and I had an impressive dick to say the least… hahahaha.

Later..

/Pan

Pan,

Are you same Pan for whom the “Pan Squeeze” was named from the old EZBOARD and PEFORUM?

Peforeal

It sounds like the Pan I know from over at PE Forums. Awesome dude.

Yes, I don’t see why not. The Pfizer study (of 25mg not exceeding placebo) was done “clean” with no other potentiatng drugs on board.

Regards,

Sounds like a plan… :)

Hey RB:

I answered my PM from you about this, but for any other readers thinking the same thoughts, in a nutshell—

NO, acetaminopen won’t do it (potentiate the Viagra) because it uses a completely different enzyme system , so they are like ships passing in the night. No interaction. It so happens that cimetidine/Tagamet and Viagra DO use the same system (the P-450 cytochromes), so we can exploit this like the mad chemists that we are :)

Re: side effect profiles are related only to blood levels, not dose. Your body does not know and does not care what the dose was. Therefore if the cimetidine elevates the blood level curve of a 50mg Viagra to mimick that of a 100mg dose, the side effect profile will be that of 100mg—not 50— for better or worse. Gotta take the good with the bad. Thats the holy grail of pharmacology, by the way: to separate the side effects from the potency. Very potent drugs have noxious side effects. Low side effect or “no side effect” drugs are that way because they are useless to begin with. They can fool the general public, but not me.

And now, not you either! Knowledge is power.

Regards,

Hi guys, yes I´m the dude from Peforums and also the old board.

RB and others, please don´t hate me for just visiting once in a while ;)

Seriously though, sometimes many other things is going on in life, so naturally I visit the boards more often when I´m more motivated to workout.

Guess you´ll see more of me the next 3-4 weeks, then I´m on vacation for 3-4 weeks and then back.

/Pan

Welcome back to the fold, Pan. I always enjoyed your posts on the other forums when I was a more active visitor there. In fact, just this week I decided to resurrect “Pan Squeezes” into my routine for a change of pace. How coincidental and thanks!

Peforeal