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Using golf weights to stretch- the best fulcrum stretching I've EVER done

Hey Wantsmore,

I have another question regarding your routine.

You said that you do the WM stretch 1 day full out and then the next day a little less.

My question is on both of these days you say you just do ads?

Do you also jelq on the on days or just the pump days and do just pump on the off days for stretch??

Sounds like a relatively simple gig.


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

kdoc: you’ve got it exactly right.

day 1.) WM stretches, full intensity, full time duration (25-30 minutes), very warmed up, very warmed down, apply ADS

day 2.) WM stretches, decent intensity, half time duration (15 minutes), very warmed up, very warmed down, apply ADS

day 3.) pump: 2, 20 minute sets, no ADS, jelq’ing after and between sets.

repeat.

Yes, I do believe in the weights as an ADS whether you’re sitting or walking. When you’re upright or walking its a good stretch, when you’re sitting it’s traction. When I’m wrapped with the weights, It pulls me out to 7” flaccid, so it’s a constant lengthening whether sitting or standing. 7” flaccid all the time will be very nice. Looking forward to it. ;)


THEN: bpel 6.0 eg 5.0 bpfsl 6.125 NOW: bpel 7.375 eg 5.25 bpfsl 7.625

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"Right now our only hope is in the hydrogen bomb." - Charles Bukowski

wantsmore,

Is your ADS the PM?

EDIT: Nevermind - I didn’t read the previous page.

So this is what I did this morning and man did it do its job,

I warmed up for 10 minutes

I did some manual stretches.

Jelqed for 15 minutes

Wantsmore Stretched using 1-4 weights. I spent 1 minute on each direction with each weight. a total of 4 minutes per weight.

Once I was finished I reversed it and spent 10 seconds per direction per weight. This time I did 8 different directions a total of 80 seconds per weight.

(read this only if you don’t understand the 8 directions: up, up left, left, left down, down and so on around the circle)

starting with 4 weights and working down to 1 weight.

I pumped for 20 minutes

warmed down.

I’m at work now and I am exhausted. not going to ads today, trying something new


Sometime in 2005: Bpel 5.7, eg 4.3: 7/15/07 bpel=6.1, eg 4.6

Now bpel 6.50, eg 5.30 bpfsl 6.50

Goal bpel 7.0 - 7.5, eg 5.5

Wantsmore,

How are the gains going? I’m really curious, because I want to see if my analysis of what is happening is accurate or not. If I’m correct, then your gains should have mostly come to a stop by now.

If I am correct, then a month break should not only allow for continued gains, but may actually get gains during the layoff.

If you are continuing to gain…then I have to do some serious re-evaluation of my concepts…wouldn’t be the first time! :)

Hi Wantsmore,

I was thinking because I am uncut, could I use the Vacu Hanger/ extender to facilitate the stretching process - I believe it will make it easier and not result in additional skin stretch or am I kidding myself?

I’ve never done any hanging, I’ve got a question for this. You probably mentioned it but I may have missed it while skimming the thread.

Is most of the gaining achieved from the actual weight itself, or from the stretching you do while be assisted with the weights? After you stretch, do you leave the weights on for hanging (and if so, how long)? I had tried some manual stretches but have trouble getting anything more than a skin stretch. Great thread btw :)

Originally Posted by Critter
I’ve never done any hanging, I’ve got a question for this. You probably mentioned it but I may have missed it while skimming the thread.

Is most of the gaining achieved from the actual weight itself, or from the stretching you do while be assisted with the weights? After you stretch, do you leave the weights on for hanging (and if so, how long)? I had tried some manual stretches but have trouble getting anything more than a skin stretch. Great thread btw :)


Manual stretches sucked for me too- just skin work and a little blast to the internals.

The stretch with these comes from the STRETCH that you achieve by wrapping your dick around the rings, NOT from the weight of the rings themselves. After I do my wantsmores, I always ADS with golf swing weights.

stee: No experience with the vacu-stuff so I can’t say. Maybe someone else could shed some light. However, it is VERY easy to get a good enough grip to torture your whang quite nicely with these. Use my shower option with soap for the wet and heated side and use Montes talc method if you want to do them dry. It is quite easy to apply killer force to the internals with these, pretty much the opposite of what I found with most other forms of “hands only” manual stretching. With these you’re more running the risk of blasting the internals too hard. Wouldn’t think a gripping aid would be necessary.

sparkyx: Dude, although I don’t wax militant about it on here, be assured that I am as attatched to steady, constant gains as any other PE addict you’ve ever encounted on Thunderss. Although my mind fully understands the value of rest, I always keep my cock one toke over the line with the needle always pitched slightly to the “negative PI” side of the game.

Also of note, is that I like Wadzilla’s elasticity theories. According to his rap, being a devotee of a lot of healthy shit which I’m sure makes me a rapid healer with good tissue elasticity, and also being a “grower”, means (according to his theories) that while I probably have a lot of growth in me, that I’ve got to work harder to get it.

But there’s where sparkyx comes in, no? And shit, Wad is a fan of breaks too. Combining the theories gives you a window for growth that is limited on all sides, where you’ve got to constantly be aware of overtraining, negative PI’s, inducing your dick to “toughness”, or even, as vaseline_knight contends, fibrosis which might be capable of cementing your unit like a motherfucker.

Hmmmm…..

Well sparkyx, this is all just a preamble to me saying that I DON’T WANT TO TAKE A BREAK…..EVER!!!!!

There, now that I’ve shouted it, I feel much better. ;)

That said, I would really like to see if your theory is correct, and as much as stopping PE (for any amount of time) is distasteful to me, it seems really stupid to just bulldog forward, irrespective of experimentation and finding out what really IS optimal.

Hmmm…..

I’ll do this, I’ll measure like I said I was going to, starting tomorrow- 3 consecutive days and then we’ll continue this discussion based on the results.

If I pull 7.25 three, or even two times, I’m gonna have to keep on it though!

I’ll get back to you here tomorrow.

6 weeks with no P.E.? That shit is frightening. :rolling:


THEN: bpel 6.0 eg 5.0 bpfsl 6.125 NOW: bpel 7.375 eg 5.25 bpfsl 7.625

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"Right now our only hope is in the hydrogen bomb." - Charles Bukowski

Very good technique wantsmore!

I do not have golf weights but I do have a thick rubber ring (to practice grip strength) so I decided to test your idea.

I put on my vacu-hanger, slid the rubber ring over it, fastened 3.5kg to the end of my rope and did my usual SO hanging from my pulley set-up. This time how ever I used the rubber ring like you have described here, as a fulcrum. Worked like a charm! Did the fulcrum (up, down,right and left) on 4 spots for a 1min hold each. My total hanging time nowadays is 15min so I got a little bit of SO hanging done as well.

Now I will finish up with some light pumping to get the blood flowing.

Using the ring as a fulcrum was real easy and gave me a very good stretch. I will stick with it and see if I can gain from it.

Originally Posted by wantsmore

sparkyx: Dude, although I don’t wax militant about it on here, be assured that I am as attatched to steady, constant gains as any other PE addict you’ve ever encounted on Thunderss. Although my mind fully understands the value of rest, I always keep my cock one toke over the line with the needle always pitched slightly to the “negative PI” side of the game.

Hey, I hope you can pull it off! No pun intended. It just seems to me that with the level of force you are using, that you should be getting great gains for a few weeks, then it should taper off dramatically. So, if you are continuing to gets good gains, then fantastic…but it means I need to rethink some of my assumptions.

Originally Posted by wantsmore
But there’s where sparkyx comes in, no? And shit, Wad is a fan of breaks too. Combining the theories gives you a window for growth that is limited on all sides, where you’ve got to constantly be aware of overtraining, negative PI’s, inducing your dick to “toughness”, or even, as vaseline_knight contends, fibrosis which might be capable of cementing your unit like a motherfucker.

Well sparkyx, this is all just a preamble to me saying that I DON’T WANT TO TAKE A BREAK…..EVER!!!!!

Trust me, I don’t list all these guidelines because I WANT it to be this way, it just happens to be a reality for me.

My theory is that below a certain force level, you CAN have constant steady growth…like skin expanding as you get fat. At a certain higher level, it is a different mechanism and breaks are needed, like an IPR concept.

My ASSUMPTION with this focused stretching, and the quick gains that you have seen, is that it falls into the latter category. That’s why I am curious as to your progress.

Like I had said, if it falls into the latter category, it still sounds like an awesome approach, but it would need decon breaks to get continued progress. As a matter of fact, when I am done with my girth quest, I would definitely want to use this for while for length, but I’m thinking the IPR protocol or something similar would be best.

I will however wait until you bring in the jury on this one before I write that in stone.

Originally Posted by wantsmore

That said, I would really like to see if your theory is correct, and as much as stopping PE (for any amount of time) is distasteful to me, it seems really stupid to just bulldog forward, irrespective of experimentation and finding out what really IS optimal.

Hmmm…..

I’ll do this, I’ll measure like I said I was going to, starting tomorrow- 3 consecutive days and then we’ll continue this discussion based on the results.

If I pull 7.25 three, or even two times, I’m gonna have to keep on it though!

I’ll get back to you here tomorrow.

6 weeks with no P.E.? That shit is frightening. :rolling:

Hell, I’m a big fan of riding the growth train as long as it keeps rolling! However, as Xeno documented in his case and several other key Vets had noted, they saw a dramatic slowdown after 2 weeks. After that, significantly higher forces were needed to get increasingly small gains.

Xeno’s point was the small gains weren’t worth the greatly increased decon time that they then required to reset for another growth cycle.

I truly think he found a very significant principle there. Now, whether that 2 week window is a physiologic principle for everyone…thats the question.

I think if you find you are continuing to make steady gains, then continue on as long as they continue. However, WHEN they begin to dramatically slow, I think Xeno is correct in that a decon break will be far more productive than to continue to increase time and or force.

Thats why I think with your approach, adding careful frequent measuring of bpfl and even charting it to determine when you get a significant slowdown…combined with a decon break at that point would make this a truly excellent method of increasing length, and possibly girth. Although I wonder if most would gain much girth from this approach?

How has the girth gains been going for you, it looks like you picked up a 1/4 inch with this method? Anyone else also getting girth?

Okay, I’m going to try this.

So can someone please tell me WTF a golf weight actually is / what it’s used for? I didn’t know about them before I came here, and now I will have to try to explain it in Japanese when asking for it.

You can buy it at a Golf shop, I’m sure there are plenty there!

It is a small ring shaped weight, that is slipped down the shaft of the golf club, and rests at the club head. Its used for improving your golf swing, I assume very much like baseball players use something similar when warming up for an “at bat”.

The only thing is they are probably gonna cost you an arm and a leg in Japan.

Heres a picture.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images…7YL._AA160_.jpg

I bought mine at Wal-Mart back a while but was unable to find them on a recent trip.

I think they stopped carrying them.


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thanks guys!

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