Time of jelqing/tolerance to it

Should jelqing least up to 30 minutes or it’s just unnecessary?
Are there girth resistances (like stretching ones) in terms of having to increase more and more the time of jelqing?

Sometimes I think that if you just stick with the basics your body will always increase little by little.

How much time should I spend in the newbie routine? Should I change it before I get adapted to it or should I wait until I’m gaining no more from it?
How much time do you guys spend in your daily jelqing?

Thanks :)

P.S.:I tried many times to use the search feature but it just won’t work. I tried searching for the words ‘time jelq, jelqing time, etc.’ and the page always turned blank.

I don’t think there is a set answer Boo-Ya.

Consider, a newbie jelqing for 10 minutes is likely to produce stress and hence a result. A vet doing the same is likely to see no gain from that.

The instructions on the newbie routine do say over a period of six weeks you should build-up the time you spend on the routine. If you go too quickly, you risk injury. Too slowly and you risk no gains, so it is about a balance.

You want to feel fatigued or “stretched” after a workout, but not pain. There is a fine balance between the two.

So my approach is to increase jelqing and stretching over the next two months by a few minutes a week.

When you hit 10-15 minutes of stretching and 30-35 minutes of jelqing, try stabilising on that for a few weeks to see the effect.

I don’t think results are just related to the amount of time you spend. Work smarter, not harder.

Is jelqing beyond 35 minutes worth it? I’m not sure if that is worthwhile?

Ruz, why would you want to modify something that is working already? If you can get results in 10 minutes of stretching and jelqing, why would you want to do 15 minutes stretching and 1/2 hour jelqing if you get the exact gain? IMO, once it is working change nothing until PE isnt worth it anymore (ie. gain like 1/16 per 2-3months).

There are dudes who can gain on 10 minutes of jelqing and others who need 40+ to get results.

Boo-ya, use the newbie routine until you cannot gain anymore. Personally I jelq 20-30 minutes.

Aom91, Let me expand. If you are gaining at 10 minutes jelqing, clearly your penis is not use to the stress, correct? In theory you could drop the time back and still gain.

If you increase that by 5 minutes, you won’t stop gaining, you’ll simply lengthen the window by which you will gain.

I.e. Say 10 minutes of jelqing provides 1 month of gains. My theory is 15 minutes will still give the gains of 10 minutes jelqing, but also mean conditioning is extended by a further period.

However, I do accept your point is correct IF we had a valid means by which to determine accurate and quick feedback. Namely, after 1 week how do you know 10 minutes is working? Maybe the PI give a hint, but you are not likely to see any valid increase in measurements over that period.

So whereas you may stall your gains by not increasing your routine *hoping it works*, by me adding 5 minutes regardless each week I know my penis is not adapting to the stress by keeping my routine constant, hence it is more likely I will be gaining. It is a simple theory used in athletics, often runners don’t just practice at their distance, they will go beyond it to ensure their body can cope with it’s objective of the lesser distance.

I do make the point, however, obviously you shouldn’t continue to increase the routine if you feel discomfort or pain.

You have a good point. But more conditioning means harder to make gains later down the line. The only plus side is being that you can use more advanced exercises when you need to.

That makes a lot of sense Ruz.

Does it? I maybe believed that, but let me put it like this. Everyone’s penis will have a maximum gain, otherwise we would be seeing guys who hung for 20 years with 20 inch penis. That clearly doesn’t happen, so what everyone can safely gain is finite. E.g. You have 3” to possibly gain based on the individual make-up of your penis anatomy, it is the route in which you safely get to that. It isn’t like starting quickly will make that gain not possibly, but yes you may need new techniques along the way and to use more stress to get to your goal, but that will be the case for most who want bigger gains regardless.

Now most of the gains will come from stretching ligaments, not conditioning tissue. Jelqing from all I read increases blood flow, but the stretching and hanging really produces the length increases and the ligaments will continue to stretch (using the right techniques) to a point where you have hit your max gain. In theory ligaments need no rest if they are continually safely fatigued, ligaments are not muscle which grows during rest periods.

So what exactly are you conditioning which halts gains? It becomes harder to make gains because you need to provide more stress on the penis as time progresses.

Where I think starting slowly is an advantage is in developing technique and avoiding injury. I’m not totally convinced about this conditioning tissue issue.

I’m not so sure about this, if 10 minutes of jelqing gives you 1 month of gains then 15 minutes may cause overtraining and not yield the same 1 month gains. I say go with whatever is causing you to gain until you gain no more. Then increase.

Ruz_, again you make a good point as far as gaining length is concerned, but how does that theory apply to girth?

As regards girth, I would also think there is only so much to be gained safely. Girth appears to be related to exercises which place lateral force on the penis, I.e. Squeeze jelqing, clamping, ulis and so forth. So rather duration of the exercise it is more concerned with the intensity by which you jelq/apply pressure?

On the injury issue, I agree. However, we are talking about adding possibly a maximum of 5 minutes jelqing per week starting at 10 minutes. So by week 7 you are doing 30-40 minutes, which a lot of guys are doing and is pretty much what is recommended on the newbie routine. Personally I would say going beyond that length of jelqing is not that wise. But you have to look at your PI for feedback.

Of course, the slower the less risk of injury, but also the more likelihood you are not applying the stress to gain.

Big Dainjerus, I’ll make the point again, how do you know you are gaining from anyone method in a week period? You are simply not going to see a large enough measurement in that period, so while you wait a month for that, perhaps to find you have gained, or perhaps not, someone who is constantly adapting the routine is sure to know they haven’t hit a conditioning phase, although whether they are still applying enough force is another issue.

Starting slowly to avoid injury is wise, however, not applying enough time for your routine will not provide the best results possible for you, so it is a balance of gains vs risk I guess.

Ruz have you made any gains yet?

I’m trying not to measure! :)

I did a pre newbie routine mentioned on the forum where you start really slow and then build up. I did that for 5-6 weeks while I was waiting to join the forum. I think I have gained perhaps 0.25” from that doing a quick check, which was what was stated was likely from the routine. I did this to develop technique and avoid early injury. Even these early exercises gave me a stretched feeling, so I assume my unit was totally out of condition.

In the last week I moved onto the newbie routine, 5 minutes stretching and 10 minutes jelqing. I’ll be increasing this everyweek as I mentioned. I’ll be measuring once a month and will be doing the newbie routine for 3 months at least. Until I hit 6.5” I won’t quite believe PE is working for me! :)

From there I plan to move to hanging and some form of the mem routine, because the LOT, exit point, erection angle, palp test etc all suggest I have good potential gains from BTC hanging.

Connective tissue (which the penis is made from) becomes vastly stronger in response to loading stress. I quite often deal with athletes who have severely damaged connective tissue from steroid usage, where the athletes muscle strength increased faster than their connective tissue (usually tendon) tensile strength.

The main reason that no one routine gives continuous results is that the penis adapts to that routine - it becomes conditioned to it. If it did not, it would just grow continuously without any change or increase in routine.

I personally believe it is best to build jelqing time up slowly and only when the previous amount is no longer giving a result. As well as time, you also have grip strength and jelq speed to play with.

When jelqing time reaches 30 minutes, it’s time for a deconditioning break. This is when you really find out about the realities of conditioning/deconditioning; if you tried to do the same 30 minute session after a 3 week break, your penis would look like it had been beaten with a hammer!

Firegoat, on that, do you agree the majority of gains come from the ligaments, not jelqing?

Is a ligament considered a connective tissue?

I agree with you on conditioning breaks. However, what you say still doesn’t answer my question, you have no real feedback (beyond PI’s) that any one routine is effective within a week or two cycle.

If you could say after 1 week, yes, I am gaining from x minutes Jelqing, I’ll remain at this level, I totally agree. However, there is no effective feedback method to ensure that.