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I hate when newbie reg opens up again … ;)


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Originally Posted by marinera
Where my correlation is? Which post are you referring to, UFGator? Quote please.

Right here - marinera - Thoughts on PE from johndough

Originally Posted by marinera
A handful of loudy gainers? Well, I don’t know precisely how many entries there are in the database, but I think gainers are more than ‘a handful’. By the way, I don’t know why but I made up my brain that non-gainers or injured tend to be way more vociferative than gainers.

Assuming your goal was to use the word - Vociferate: cry; a loud utterance; often in protest or opposition (which would be the skeptic part)

Originally Posted by marinera

I gave you an example of a 1) Mod who is an hard-gainer - and mabye non-gainer would be more proper; 2) a guy that was claiming extraordinary gains and was banned; 3) a guy that has received more than enough skeptics and ironic comments by vets because claiming extraordinary gains.

That’s my fault. I misread your post. I thought they were all supposed to be non-gainers. And secjay is an awful example. Yes, he didn’t gain much, but using a guy whose dick was nearly 9” pre PE is like throwing salt in the wounds.

My conclusion is this: we’re unlikely to ever see a single true study to determine teh outcome of any PE techniques, let alone repeat studies. So why not open a poll here?

All lurkers here who have been too afraid to voice their results (positive or negative) will have this opportunity to anonymously confirm or deny results with whatever routine they’re using. Or if you like, pinpoint which routine, device, whatever that you want to expose in the poll. It’s the closest thing to a real study you’re going to get for a long, long time, if ever.


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Originally Posted by androNYC

I hate when newbie reg opens up again … ;)

LOL!


Recognize.

Thunderss, do you remember, which extender study(ies) you felt were somewhat dubious? I want to review the extender studies and see what they came up with, but if you know of some with some suspicious methodology I would like to scratch them off my list and save myself some time.

Originally Posted by UFGator
Right here - marinera - Thoughts on PE from johndoughAssuming your goal was to use the word - Vociferate: cry; a loud utterance; often in protest or opposition (which would be the skeptic part)….


“vo·cif·er·ate   
[voh-sif-uh-reyt] Show IPA
–verb (used without object), verb (used with object), -at·ed, -at·ing.
to speak or cry out loudly or noisily; shout; bawl.”

So, vociferative in the meaning that they post more and louder than average. No supposition about skepticism there.
But, so said, yes, I have to say that a guy who has not gained will be more likely skeptic than a guy who has gained. I know this does not seem fair to you, but I can’t help.

Originally Posted by UFGator
……. And secjay is an awful example. Yes, he didn’t gain much, but using a guy whose dick was nearly 9” pre PE is like throwing salt in the wounds.


He is a Mod Alumni and he gained about nothing, right? Another one, if my memory is not betraying, was Gut Scrambler. There are hard gainers among mods. And look here:

PE is a slow process If you are coming to this after breaking all your new year’s resolutions, have you got the staying power and the ability to resist boredom that it takes?

It doesn’t work for everyone. There are people who give up before they gain and there are others who have spent 2+ years not gaining before they gain anything.

Best chance of success

Be skeptical and questioning about everything you read. Run it through your common sense filters.

Don’t buy anything for at least the first few months and maybe not at all. Buying stuff will not make your dick bigger. (This excludes lubricants.)

Don’t believe the opinion of a single person. Read around a subject and check out the consensus.

Don’t jump immediately on the bandwagon of a new gain 1” in a week exercise. The exercises that have stood up to scrutiny are well known. Experiment for sure, but don’t don’t place any bets on growth rate….”

Do you know where this is written?

Originally Posted by johndough123

Thunderss, do you remember, which extender study(ies) you felt were somewhat dubious? I want to review the extender studies and see what they came up with, but if you know of some with some suspicious methodology I would like to scratch them off my list and save myself some time.

Do a search for “extender stud*”, title only option. I think you’ll find easy.

Originally Posted by marinera
Do you know where this is written?

I have no idea where that is written.

How about this – you find me a VIABLE example of someone who finally made some gains after going years without gaining a thing.

I’ll go read about him and leave this thread for good – which is what I’m sure a lot of people would like to see happen ;)

Extenders are, in my opinion, the surest way to force length gains. I remember when I used my extender often my junk would go so deep in my partner that it would get locked in place around the glans which was quite an incredible sensation.


Recognize.

Originally Posted by UFGator

I have no idea where that is written.

………

Brainwashing Techniques

Guys,

this is unproductive. I think we should focus on PROOF and nothing else. Being rude to others, trying to make yourself appear superior or teaching grammar is not going to get us anywhere. So far the only thing I consider valuable is bohm’s report from ESSM and these statistical elucidations on the pumping study. Hard science talk, not diluted flaming. ;)

So, has anyone read the link I put up (ISSM on Penile Augmentation)? What say you?

Originally Posted by Owen33
this is unproductive. I think we should focus on PROOF and nothing else.

Wrong. We should focus on making our dicks bigger.


Start • 5.94''x4.92''

Now • 6.50''x4.96''

Goal • 7.00''x5.75''

Originally Posted by Owen33
this is unproductive. I think we should focus on PROOF and nothing else. Being rude to others, trying to make yourself appear superior or teaching grammar is not going to get us anywhere. So far the only thing I consider valuable is bohm’s report from ESSM and these statistical elucidations on the pumping study. Hard science talk, not diluted flaming. ;)

Again, you are dealing with a dearth of clinical studies on the matter. I wouldn’t want to rely on anecdotal experience, but there is something between anecdotal experience and full blown clinical studies. There are people here who approach this in a very systematic manner who log all their workouts and measurements. Some have had success some have not. Just as in all other biological things there will be variability in how things operate in each person’s bodies. I would look for a data call here for people like that.


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(November 2013) NBPEL: 5.875, BPEL: 6.625 inches, BASE GIRTH: 5.625 inches, MID GIRTH: 5

Goal NBPEL(7-7.5)xMEG(5.5-6) (journal)

Originally Posted by johndough123
Thunderss, do you remember, which extender study(ies) you felt were somewhat dubious? I want to review the extender studies and see what they came up with, but if you know of some with some suspicious methodology I would like to scratch them off my list and save myself some time.

No, not by brand. The only one I remember for sure is the first one that came out. It was an Italian (possibly Spanish) study on the JES.


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Originally Posted by UFGator
I have no idea where that is written.

How about this – you find me a VIABLE example of someone who finally made some gains after going years without gaining a thing.

I’ll go read about him and leave this thread for good – which is what I’m sure a lot of people would like to see happen ;)

After over three years of gainless PE, im quitting

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