thoughtfulgold's Gains Theory: What mechanisms do they use and how do they differ?
Hi there, TG again. Today let’s talk about the nitty gritty about gaining. I mean we all know if you use your exercises and devices right, in a safe way often enough with enough rest…it shows on the ruler, right? But…why is that? We know what we can do to cause gains but…why do they happen the way they do? Why is the Newbie Gains Phase so different than the rest of anyone’s PE career? What parts of the body change with what exercises? When do gains occur? While I am not a doctor…I have been at PE a while and this is my personal theory on the topic and from what I’ve been able to observe through the gains of others.
What is detailed below is not the gospel of PE. There will be dissenting opinions and this is fine. This is the observation and theory of thoughtfulgold and has served me pretty well but it is only that.
1. Q: First, let’s talk about Newbie Gains. What are they?
A: Popularly coined because these gains, particularly length gains, happen early on in anyone’s PE career…Newbie Gains seem to result primarily from the stretching of the penis’ suspensory ligaments and the penis appearing larger as its health becomes more emphasized through gains or increases in Erection Quality to a much higher level than before. These gains can range from 1/4” to over 1.5” over the course of up to 18 months.
To expand more on this, gains from simple stretching of the suspensory ligaments profit from the release of more of the “inner penis” inside of your body. As what you can see and can press a ruler to the pubic bone to measure is not actually your entire penis. By stretching those ligaments you access more of the inner penis and the more PE you do that pulls the penis shaft away from the body the more those ligaments stretch and remain stretched to their maximum. Usually Newbie Gains end because those ligaments are no longer granting additional gains via stretching.
Erection Quality gains are simple in nature. I personally never got an erection over 6/10 in hardness before PE. Reaching maximum hardness was already a difference in length I never had personally seen (my girth remained the same as my EQ increased at first.) Changes in erection quality happen most in the beginning of your PE career as penis health generally remains high while you perform PE.
There is also “steel cord” theory, of a dorsal ligament that is atop the penis that sometimes is so incredibly tough it will retard your gains because it will not let you pull the penis out of position and stretch the rest of the suspensory ligaments. I’m not well-versed on this but I do know that everyone doesn’t gain the same amount during Newbie Gains and everyone doesn’t have identical ligaments that are willing to give gains when the penis is pulled upon. With that being said, when Newbie Gains are exhausted it is usually because of changes in the suspensory ligaments that no longer allow for gains and this will usually result in a plateau and require a change in the routine and approach for further length gains in PE.
Gains that are lost after a brief time in PE are typically Newbie Gains. Continued PE maintenance and just PE in general will cement these ligament gains but this has to be tended to studiously, especially early on. This risk does drop the longer you do PE.
2. Q: If gains from stretching ligaments eventually are exhausted, how do you keep gaining?
A: Ligaments are not the only method by which the penis gains length. Additionally, the ligaments can be targeted again using a more advanced method but this is more up to the PE practitioner which discipline they wish to follow to achieve their goals.
3. Q: If ligaments aren’t the only method to gain length, what other methods are there?
A: Tissue growth. There are two main methods that I personally know of.
Small Traumas- small areas of damage in the tissue that the body will repair slightly larger and stronger. This will result in more actual penile tissue being present. This is the same mechanic that is used to build muscle tissue and when applied to the tunica, the flesh of the penis in a gentle, regular manner it will cause gradual and permanent gains as more tissue is generated from the stimuli used. Gains are usually experienced during the rest phase, when the body has time to heal. Usually the penis looks larger after the stimuli is completed. These methods share “a use in greater intensity to show gains” as the use of the exercise and device goes on.
Traction (time stretched to limit)- is by taking your penis close to the limit it can stretch and holding it there with your hands or a device. While being held there, the tissue of the penis generates more cells so that the tension on the penis is lessened as more cells fill in the strained area at the middle of the penis.This results in more reinforced penile tissue and a more stable stretched state that doesn’t relax and can be prompted to continue growing and generating new cells. Gains here are typically experienced as the stimuli is applied, to reduce the strain of said stimuli. Usually the penis looks larger while the stimuli is being applied. These methods usually share a goal of “as much time under tension as possible” and rely on more time to see gains. That term is one commonly used for Rod Style Traction Extenders and All Day Stretchers (ADS)
These means often work in tandem but usually when using any particular method one of these is more prevalent than the other. I’ll touch on that next.
Hybrid methods will cause a very notable stretch to limit while being used and also will push the penis past the limit to have to heal later. Using a hybrid method will cause the penis to appear larger during the exercise and after the exercise while it is healing, where gains may be received during either time. These methods can benefit from both increased duration and intensity but the increase of both with these methods carries extreme risk and must be carefully considered before being executed.
4. Q: What exercises and devices use which gaining mechanics?
A: This is a contentious point and subjective to me as the author from personal observation and observation of others (there’s that disclaimer again) but this is what I’ve got:
Primarily Small Trauma methods: Jelqing, most other manual exercises.
Primarily Traction methods: Rod style traction extenders, All Day Stretcher devices, Manual stretching, edging.
Hybrid methods: Clamping, hanging, pumping, Horse Squeeze 440, Extreme ULI
5. Q: What gain methods work the best and why?
A: This will change from person to person and vary with what stage they are in as far as their PE journey.
However, in my experience, I have noted that Small Trauma methods retain their effectiveness for the longest time overall.
So those guys who jelq literally their entire PE careers are onto something, there. *chuckles*
That Traction does well for Newbies and typically fades in effectiveness as time goes on and the penis becomes extremely pliable and the ligaments become increasingly taxed to their limits and toughened.
My personal experience made me leave my extender in the box years ago and I find only limited benefit in warming up with manual stretches and no gains from them at all.
Hybrid methods usually work better for those longer in PE as these methods will work on more conditioned and toughened tissues better without as much chance for injury. I usually warn Newbies away from these methods (especially pumping) because the injury chances are much higher and the chance of toughening the penis and losing out on Newbie gains is a very serious risk to take so early on.
Pumping is the most popular method for guys I’ve seen who have been into PE 5 years or longer and it appears to work even on some of the most large and conditioned units I’ve personally seen and in a notable way.
Hybrid methods also carry the highest potential intensity of any traumas that you can inflict on your penis. They must be used with care and without proper care can result in the most painful injuries in the fastest manner.
6. Q: What gain method works on what part of the penis?
A: Another contentious question. Typically, when applying each method they share some commonalities. Those will lead you to some answers of reasonable uniformity.
Traction and holding stress is common in manual stretching, extenders and stretchers. Thusly they pull the penis away from the body. This will stretch ligaments first, then stress transfers up the shaft of the penis until tissue elsewhere in the shaft relaxes to make the stretched shape into the new normal state. Ligament popping is common when doing stretches or using an extender or All Day Stretcher also.
Small trauma methods work by working on an area of the penis for a short time, stretching it and making it different. This is usually the Corpus Cavernosum chambers on the sides of the penis and the Corpus Spongium chamber on the bottom of the penis. Usually small traumas move the blood around the penis and force parts of these chambers to expand for a short time repeatedly, which will cause trauma the more repetitions you do that you can heal from in a larger state.
Hybrid methods also target the same chambers of the penis with the noted exception of hanging.
Hanging targets ligaments and the inner shaft like a stretcher and can cause gains at ligaments and the shaft depending on which is bearing the most force and being the most pliable at that time. It will depend on which hanging position you are using, how much weight and how well your penis bears the weight. This is discussed more in Hanging 101 but hanging benefits from both duration and intensity and this is why it is stressed, when increasing hanging sets, never to increase both time and weight at the same time. It is too dangerous and very hard to predict the results when changing both factors in this way.
7. Q: Why do you recommend stretching and small trauma methods first, especially to Newbies? I want to hang, pump and get BIG gains faster!
Mainly because to maximize efficiency, using all means available can get you big faster with less work! Traction/Stretching and Small Trauma methods offer a lot of reward with comparatively small risk and fatigue factors compared to Hybrid Methods. It simply isn’t mathematically effective to start at Hybrid Methods, toughen up your penis so that you can’t use Stretching methods or find much effect in Small Trauma methods and then have a penis that is conditioned, tough and plateaued inside of a year with next to no gains at all.
This is extremely common with people who hang and pump early on and find that they’ve toughened their ligaments and tunica to a point they cannot be deformed any further by any exercise or device within reason. This is why I never recommend hanging or pumping to someone new to PE. Also, why after these kinds of accidents or if you are just tired of hanging and pumping that it takes a long period of a month or more to decondition enough for lighter forces to affect your penis.
8. Q: What do you recommend I do? How should I look at this and use this information for myself?
A: I personally would go with Stretching and Small Traumas for as long as they are effective. If interested in using a Hybrid Method, use it sparingly so as to not overcondition yourself or run an excess injury risk early on. This lets you use as many varied techniques and devices as possible for a longer span of time in your PE career.
The last word on how your routine is done will be said by you, the PE practitioner. Perhaps this work has shed a bit of light on what you will do next, why what you are doing is or is not working or perhaps on what may work for you now. But decide what you want to do based on your needs, not what someone else is doing and finds effective.
I are not walking your journey for you. You are. Good luck
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