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The tunica is the bottleneck

The tunica is the bottleneck

1) why gain newbies so fast in the beginning?
2) why are there plateaus?
3) why is clamping so effective for a lot of people?

I think all these 3 questions have only one answer: Because the tunica is the bottleneck.

1) The tunica is quite thin by newbies. So it is easy to stretch it length ways and sideways.
2) After some months training, the tunica is able to resist the force of the exercise. At that moment, the tunica will not stretch further and causes stagnation in terms of gaining.
3) The enormous force with this exercise is enough to stretch even a (through the PE career) strong and thick tunica.

If this redenation is correctly, people will say: clamp if you want to break plateaus!
But this might be a negative road to follow. If you follow that road, you accept the fact that you’ve got some serious thick and strong tunica build up. And it sounds logical to me that extreme exercises, such as clamping, create thicker tunica tissue very fast. So you and up with an even more strong and thick tunica! Is that something that we want?

Maybe there’s an alternative to break plateaus and gain as newbies.

We have to make our tunica thin, just as it was when we were newbies. How? I don’t know. But here at thunders are many creative minds who are definitely be able to come up with some ingenious ways to make our tunica thinner.

So please, help us.

Here are some points which I thought about:
-A broken penis, is a fractured tunica. It can be fixed by doctors in the hospital. So there are lots of people who have knowledge about the tunica. Maybe they can help us out.
-Maybe a deconditioning break will make the tunica thinner.
-Maybe there are ointments that penetrates the skin and make the under laying tissue weaker and/or thinner.


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

Glucose level has an important influence on the thickness of the tunica, according to this study:
http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/6/365.htm

The study makes clear that rats with high glucose levels develops in a few weeks a significantly thinner tunica then the rats with lower glucose levels.

I think this could be a break trough in PE.

[Offtopic]
I’ve contacts with a research centre that uses volunteers for MRI, EEG, ERP and MEG experiments. I really want to MRI my penis to see what kind of tunica I have. And how the tunica of non-PE people look like.
[Offtopic]

More info is needed…


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

Just some ideas to go along with the future comments..

1. Heat will solve a multitude of problems when it comes to relaxing a stubborn material such as the tunica.

2. Once the plateau is firmly in place the tunica should be hit with different exercises/stretches other than the current routine.in other words, change the routine and shock it. Shock the hell out of it.

3. Keep the principle of the rock and the water in mind


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Thanks ocd

Points 1 and 2 are good, but they don’t make the tunica thinner (I want the tunica as thin as it was when I was a newbie).

- Would you brainstorm futher for idea’s to make the tunica thinner?
- What do you mean with point 3?


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

As simple as it may sound I’m all about deconditioning. I like to get that newbie pop.

Originally Posted by vanloon
Glucose level has an important influence on the thickness of the tunica, according to this study:
http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/6/365.htm

But they seem to suggest that this leads to erectile disfunction, right?

It is too bad that medical science is not interested in this topic. It seems that no one is doing medical research on PE, probably because there are no groups willing to fund it. It also seems that medical researchers don’t lurk around this board. A medical doctor may or may not know much about this topic depending on what their specialty is.

Your theory sounds plausible. I am a newb and I gained 1/2 inch in one month. This is a ridiculous gain, and had it not happened to me, I would not have believed it.

Originally Posted by novi
Your theory sounds plausible. I am a newb and I gained 1/2 inch in one month.

And I want to gain just the way you did it, but then EVERY month! And I think everyone here at thunders wants to gain 0,5” (girth and length) EACH month.

1) If a thick tunica (caused by PE exercises) is causing lack of significant gains,
2) If there is a way to make the tunica thinner,

Then I don’t understand why I get so little input.
Nevertheless, I keep on searching for possibilities and hoping for some input from you guys…

Thanks!


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

Originally Posted by vanloon
Glucose level has an important influence on the thickness of the tunica, according to this study:
http://www.asiaandro.com/1008-682X/6/365.htm

The study makes clear that rats with high glucose levels develops in a few weeks a significantly thinner tunica then the rats with lower glucose levels.

I think this could be a break trough in PE.

I’d prefer to have a small dick than live with the complications of diabetes…

How do you know that the tunica is the limiting factor rather than what’s inside it? How do you explain how many guys have BPELs that are nearly an inch (and sometimes more) shorter than their BPFSL?


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Great question, ModestoMan.

Does the thinking that fat cells do not multiply, they only become enlarged come onto play here? I don’t know, but perhaps if someones BPEL is shorter than the BPSFL to a high degree, they may benefit from higher pressure techniques? I’m just talking out loud, I think there is great benefit to higher pressures, if done when needed and not out of haste.

Concerning Vanloon question on point 3 of OCD’s reply :

I think OCD means that although the rock is much stronger than the water, in time the water will break the rock.
Eigenlijk wil hij dus gewoon zeggen dat je moet blijven volhouden.
For the non Dutch : keep going

Damn you Arnold. Why did you do it the hard way… Or did you?


----- Feb 2004 - 5.0 EG x 6.0 BPEL----- Feb 2006 - 5.6 EG x 8.0 BPEL

Back after a long break. New goals, new techniques, happy to be back.

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
How do you know that the tunica is the limiting factor rather than what’s inside it? How do you explain how many guys have BPELs that are nearly an inch (and sometimes more) shorter than their BPFSL?

Tanks for your answers. Scepticism is the enemy for inventors and for innovation in general, but it can also be usefull to test theories.

Now my answers to your questions:

1) How do you know that the tunica is the limiting factor rather than what’s inside it?

I don’t know. That’s why I call it a theory. But it is a FACT that tunica tissue is a very strong and tough tissue. And that is a good thing, otherwise the change of getting injured while having sex is way to big! So, I think the tunica is much tougher then the CC inside the “tube”. If you make the CC bigger, but the tunica is to tough and strong to let the CC grow bigger, then there is a stagnation in gaining.

Compare it with a tube of a bicycle. If you inflate 3 bar air pressure into the inner tube WITHOUT the outer tube surrounding it, the diameter will be for example 3 inch. If you inflate also 3 bar air pressure into the inner tube WITH the outer tube surrounding it, the diameter will only be 2 inch! This is because the toughness of the outer tube prevents the inner tube to “grow” bigger then 2 inch.
This sounds SO logical to me, that I think every kid would understand the principle.

2) How do you explain how many guys have BPELs that are nearly an inch (and sometimes more) shorter than their BPFSL?

That’s also easy to explain. If you inflate a balloon with a little bit of air and stretch the inflated balloon to a length of 10 inch, you will have a tube with a diameter of 0,5 inch. Then you stretch the inflated balloon to a length of 15 inch, you will have a tube with a diameter of 0,2 inch. What does this means? If you have a flaccid penis and you stretch is, the penis is ABLE to decrease in diameter. If you have an erection, then your penis is not ABLE to decrease in diameter, because the CC is full of blood.

So when you are flaccid, the tunica (compare that with the balloon) is able stretch further then it can when you have an erection. If you have an erection, the diameter of the tunica is much bigger then when you are flaccid, so it it very logical that the length is less.

So the theory is not busted.

And about the diabetic thing; I don’t want to have diabetes also. I am just brainstorming and searching for possibilities to make the tunica less strong and eventually thinner—->so that I can grow like a newbie….

More info will be highly appreciated.


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

Originally Posted by flardoen
Concerning Vanloon question on point 3 of OCD’s reply :

I think OCD means that although the rock is much stronger than the water, in time the water will break the rock.
Eigenlijk wil hij dus gewoon zeggen dat je moet blijven volhouden.
For the non Dutch : keep going

That’s a good point. But I want to reach my goals in the next couple of years, not in the year 2060.


GOAL for December 2007: 8 X Red Bull

GOAL for December 2025: 14 X 10

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