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The truth about LOT. Test # 1

The truth about LOT. Test # 1

Hey guys,

This thread is in reference to Bib’s LOT Theory. Ideas have been floating around for quite some time that the LOT theory might be flawed. This thread has been created to test the theory in hopes of shedding some new light being on the whole debate. The idea of the test originated in this thread: Testing LOT Theory. The test is very simple, and takes no longer than 60 seconds.

The Test:
The test requires you to pull your penis with a great deal of tension. In this test, you are noting where you feel the tension. There are typically a few places you can feel it. For the sake of simplicity, we are going to note three places.
1) Your ligaments — you feel a ligament stretch typically at the very base of your penis and up your pubic bone. You can sometimes feel this tension in your abdomen.
2) Your shaft — tension anywhere along your penis.
3) Your inner penis — tension along the inner penis. The inner penis goes into the body and is under the outer penis. Tension on the inner penis is typically felt in the perineum (the area between your anus and your testes). Here is a graphic of the male perineum: perineum.JPG

First, pull straight up at 12:00. Pull as you normally would if you were aiming for growth. Note where you feel the tension.
Then, go down a little bit to 11:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.
Then, go down a little bit to 10:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.
Then, go down a little bit to 9:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.
Then, go down a little bit to 8:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.
Then, go down a little bit to 7:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.
Lastly, go down a little bit to 6:00. Pull with the same amount of force and note where you feel the tension.

Now, after you have noted where you feel the tension at each of point, take your LOT test. If you have never done the LOT test before, then instructions on doing so can be found in the Bib’s LOT theory thread mentioned above. Easier instructions can also be found here: Bib’s LOT Theory 101

If you already know your LOT, then please take it again. LOT can vary a lot (no pun intended ;) ) from day to day. It is very important that you take the LOT test after you do the tension test.

Also, don't just go with the flow. Make a sound judgement based on what you feel and not what everyone else feels. You might be different than everyone else, and if you are then it is imperative that you post the truth, not a fabrication to fit in.

My results
Since I am starting the thread, I will go first.

I will post the clock followed by where I feel tension:
12:00 - Tension along my shaft and in my perineum.
11:00 - Tension along my shaft (particularly the sides) and in my perineum.
10:00 - Tension along my shaft (particularly the sides).
9:00 - Tension along my shaft, and a light tension at the base.
8:00 - Equally divided tension along my shaft and at the base (my ligaments).
7:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
6:00 - Tension on my ligaments.

My current LOT is: between 7:30 and 8:00. Thus, my Loss Of Tugback is pretty coherent with where I feel the tension.

Now, anyone can take part in this test. Try it out if you want and post your results here.


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You’re LOT has varied from day to day?

Here are my results.

12:00 - Tension on my ligaments
11:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
10:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
9:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
8:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
7:00 - Tension on my ligaments.
6:00 - Tension on my ligaments.

My LOT is between 11:00 and 10:00.

Originally Posted by UlcasterDropout
You’re LOT has varied from day to day?

My LOT, no. Others, yes. Maybe it was becaues they weren’t doing right. I don’t know. But a few guys claimed their LOTs vary a lot.


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I received a PM from someone who did the test. Here are his results:

Quote
It seems that feel from 12 - 9 o clock Tension along my shaft. 9-6 I think I feel the ligs, it’s definitely a different feeling.
I think I never felt something at my perineum.
My LOT is 9.


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My LOT has always been very low, so low I could and still can lift the weights while hanging BTC with just a kegel. I hung OTS heavy for over a year with no length gains. It wasn’t until I started hanging SD and BTC that I made any length gains at all. I know making gains hanging low for a low LOTer is contrary to the theory, but it’s what worked for me. I have a feeling that pulling downward helps everyone to some degree, no matter what your LOT is. I have nothing to back this up other than my own experience. Mostly it’s just a gut feeling. But even now I just feel like I’m doing more good hanging low swinging the weights than hanging high with a pulley.


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Modesto had a unique idea. The ligaments connect to the shaft along the tunica. He theorizes that at this connection point there might be a “sweet spot.” Basically, in a nut shell, we might be able to gain better from downward stretching because we are hitting the “sweet spot.” Maybe that is why you have some good gains from downward stretching, even though you might have short ligs.

But here’s the catch: There might be sweet spots in other areas along the shaft. Thus, I think it is best we hit it all. Down, up, left, right, etc.


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I don’t know that the connection point is a “sweet spot.” I think it’s a very strong part of the shaft, which SD and BTC hanging target. It’s really a matter of applying stress to the areas that provide the greatest resistance. The fibers of the susp. lig. invest into the dorsal fibers of the tunica, which are the strongest parts of the tunica. Stretching the ligs thus stretches these tunica fibers and applies stress to the toughest part of the tunica.


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I am feeling the ligs only in all positions

Originally Posted by ModestoMan
I don’t know that the connection point is a “sweet spot.” I think it’s a very strong part of the shaft, which SD and BTC hanging target. It’s really a matter of applying stress to the areas that provide the greatest resistance. The fibers of the susp. lig. invest into the dorsal fibers of the tunica, which are the strongest parts of the tunica. Stretching the ligs thus stretches these tunica fibers and applies stress to the toughest part of the tunica.

I think Target might be a better term. Regardless of what we call it, this SPOT is the enemy, or perhaps the chink in the armor of the enemy.


2003: 6X5 2010: 7X7

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Originally Posted by 5point5
I am feeling the ligs only in all positions

What was your LOT?


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Any more takers on LOT test #1?


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