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the physics of soft tissue deformation, and the proof of PE reality

So I am a scientist as well as a dick-grower. I enjoy the science of all things and the simple reality that soft tissue deformation is possible is what really got me back into the mindset to get serious about PE.

I recently found a good read that speaks of ligament stretching and the medical fact that when a ligament is stretched to a certain degree, be that acute (bad) or chronic (good for us) it will be subjected to a medical term/situation known as “plastic deformation”.
I have seen Saiyan and a few others use this term.
It is relative to what we are all on here doing.

My initial reason for searching then stumbling on this particular read, link below, was that I am curious if my gains are mostly ligaments. If so I think they are easier gains that the tunica.
I have now gained about 1/2” in about 3 months with constant stretching and jelqing on my off days.

The soft tissue of the body does indeed react and adjust to outside forces.

I am mostly posting this for the sceptics, as was I. It is my nature to be a skeptic. If I would have read some great stuff like the below link, I would have jumped into the PE pool a damn long time ago but stuck with it when I screwed around with it.

I am still baffled as to why I have picked up as much girth as I have. I can only surmise that my jelqing technique which also involves a modified V-stretch has had much to do with it.

Anyway, my fellow skeptics……………read on………………………………………… …………….TO THE LINK! Then scroll a little ways down and read what it says about ligament stretching being permanent!

There is your science telling you PE is real. As if the rest of us with growing dicks was not enough. :-)

http://books.google.com/books?id=fm…ible%3F&f=false


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

Excellent info. I especially like that plastic deformation can cause permanent lengthening and there’s good explanation of how heat affects pliability.

if i was a cut guy, i would get a hanger, hang, and hang some more, every day, and i would probably grow 3 inches…it’s really that simple if you are cut.

get r’ done

Ivorytower,
That’s some great information. However, I try not to stretch the ligaments that support the penis. Although I would like more length, I don’t want to do it at the expense of the angle of the erection. I have a really nice erect angle, and I would like to keep it. I do stretches like the tug of war, and the wrapping one, like a towel.

But in both instances the force of the stretch is on the penis. one hand at the top, one on the bottom. I could be misinformed, but I have heard some mention that the angle of erection wasn’t so good after stretching out the ligs. Of course they didn’t mind the extra length in exchange. Its always a calculated decision as to what one values more. I hope I am wrong, I would certainly like to use as many methods as possible for pe.

I have really changed my routine, its mostly based on making the erection stronger, and longer. So some prolonged kegels, and extended edging. I rarely do clamping now. I don’t know if that is enough. Any feed back from anyone would be appreciated.

Thanks guys, I thought is a damn fine read.

aegi, I agree with you, but honestly I am not yet convinced it will make a huge difference until you get to some Major stretching such as what happened with Bib.
I have now gained about 1/2” and I still have a higher erection angle. When I am fully hard I am at about 10:30. Thats pretty high.
I say all that to say this, I think most if not all my gains are from ligs.

If I get to 8 then I will have reached my goal. I am already thick enough most women squeeze their eyes tight together when I go in, which is very sexy, I love seeing the reactions and hearing them.
I just want to bottom out more often, thats my goal! lol.


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

One other point I am learning.

If older guys are able to gain more easily I am on the track of thinking it is due to a reduced collagen in the body.
When we are younger we produce more and produce it easier. It is the healing block of skin and ligaments and such.

If we could find a supplement that reduced collagen in the body it might help by making healing slower….or perhaps taking collagen supplements while doing some heavy duty stretching is the best way to go.
Once the break down of tissue starts then by a constant stretch and supplement…..?


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

In which field are you a scientist, IT? Just courius.

Originally Posted by ivorytower
One other point I am learning.

If older guys are able to gain more easily I am on the track of thinking it is due to a reduced collagen in the body.
When we are younger we produce more and produce it easier. It is the healing block of skin and ligaments and such.

If we could find a supplement that reduced collagen in the body it might help by making healing slower….or perhaps taking collagen supplements while doing some heavy duty stretching is the best way to go.
Once the break down of tissue starts then by a constant stretch and supplement…..?

Collagen can be good, but it also can be bad depending on the amount, type and frequency you deposit it. From what I’ve read aging causes a decrease in elastin coupled with a decrease in soluble collagen so these, maybe by decreasing overall eslatcity can increase permanent deformation in older guys.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

marinera, sorry, I am not a real scientist, just in my own mind! lol.
I am in import/export and own a manufacturing company.
Faaar from anything scientific. What I should have said was I love science. lol

alin, well said. I am researching the collagen element to PE. I am almost certain it plays a pivotal role.


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

Originally Posted by aegi
Ivorytower,
That’s some great information. However, I try not to stretch the ligaments that support the penis. Although I would like more length, I don’t want to do it at the expense of the angle of the erection. I have a really nice erect angle, and I would like to keep it. I do stretches like the tug of war, and the wrapping one, like a towel.

But in both instances the force of the stretch is on the penis. One hand at the top, one on the bottom. I could be misinformed, but I have heard some mention that the angle of erection wasn’t so good after stretching out the ligs. Of course they didn’t mind the extra length in exchange. It’s always a calculated decision as to what one values more. I hope I am wrong, I would certainly like to use as many methods as possible for pe.

I have really changed my routine, it’s mostly based on making the erection stronger, and longer. So some prolonged kegels, and extended edging. I rarely do clamping now. I don’t know if that is enough. Any feed back from anyone would be appreciated.

How is that working out for you. Ideally I’m sure everyone would be doing it your way if it was effective.
If someone could link to a thread that discusses lig vs tunica stretches I would appreciate it.

Also, apart from a lower erection angle, is there any other disadvantage to stretching the ligaments.
Something like weak ligaments that result in weak penile structure?

Originally Posted by ivorytower
So I am a scientist as well as a dick-grower. I enjoy the science of all things and the simple reality that soft tissue deformation is possible is what really got me back into the mindset to get serious about PE.

I recently found a good read that speaks of ligament stretching and the medical fact that when a ligament is stretched to a certain degree, be that acute (bad) or chronic (good for us) it will be subjected to a medical term/situation known as “plastic deformation”.
I have seen Saiyan and a few others use this term.
It is relative to what we are all on here doing.

My initial reason for searching then stumbling on this particular read, link below, was that I am curious if my gains are mostly ligaments. If so I think they are easier gains that the tunica.
I have now gained about 1/2” in about 3 months with constant stretching and jelqing on my off days.

The soft tissue of the body does indeed react and adjust to outside forces.

I am mostly posting this for the sceptics, as was I. It is my nature to be a skeptic. If I would have read some great stuff like the below link, I would have jumped into the PE pool a damn long time ago but stuck with it when I screwed around with it.

I am still baffled as to why I have picked up as much girth as I have. I can only surmise that my jelqing technique which also involves a modified V-stretch has had much to do with it.

Anyway, my fellow skeptics……………read on………………………………………… …………….TO THE LINK! Then scroll a little ways down and read what it says about ligament stretching being permanent!

There is your science telling you PE is real. As if the rest of us with growing dicks was not enough. :-)

http://books.google.com/books?id=fm…ible%3F&f=false

excellent link, really takes away a lot of skepticism I have, as I have yet to see gains. So what exactly was your routine like if you don’t mind me asking? Are you saying you worked out the same every day, or you stretched for like 30 minutes on workout days, and jelqed on off days?

Ray32, thanks.
My routine presently took several weeks, as in a little over a month or more, to get where it is now.
Basically it consists of my using a self made, and constantly evolving ADS, as often as I can.
I have been able to wear it for over 12 hours with little breaks. I have it now where I do not get any numbness at all and I would guess about 5 to 7 pounds of constant pull. I am really just guessing at the pull weight.
Anyway, I am using a heavy duty elastic strap pulled down and wrapped around below my knee. It is not even noticeable through the work day.

I will go 4 or 5 days wearing that and then take a day or two off. I went over a month straight with one day a week breaks with the ADS and that is when I really picked up gains. I am preparing to do that again but also incorporate a Bibs hanger in the morning. I think getting a good solid few stretches in the morning and then the ADS to keep a good pull will really see some gains.
I have been reading a lot on hanging and I will start with BTC hangs first. I think it attacks the ligs and tunica best, especially when a round device or just anything placed under your flaccid to give am A stretch to the hang will help.

On my off days I still do jelq. During that month of solid ADS I also jelqed in the morning and evening, and even mid day when I had the time.
Not a large number of jelqs, maybe 100 each time.

Thats it.

Hope it helps.

Attack the soft tissue.slow and steady, I think that is the key and when your body has adjusted either pick up the pace a little or change the routine.
Gains will come.


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

Originally Posted by ivorytower
Ray32, thanks.
My routine presently took several weeks, as in a little over a month or more, to get where it is now.
Basically it consists of my using a self made, and constantly evolving ADS, as often as I can.
I have been able to wear it for over 12 hours with little breaks. I have it now where I do not get any numbness at all and I would guess about 5 to 7 pounds of constant pull. I am really just guessing at the pull weight.
Anyway, I am using a heavy duty elastic strap pulled down and wrapped around below my knee. It is not even noticeable through the work day.

I will go 4 or 5 days wearing that and then take a day or two off. I went over a month straight with one day a week breaks with the ADS and that is when I really picked up gains. I am preparing to do that again but also incorporate a Bibs hanger in the morning. I think getting a good solid few stretches in the morning and then the ADS to keep a good pull will really see some gains.
I have been reading a lot on hanging and I will start with BTC hangs first. I think it attacks the ligs and tunica best, especially when a round device or just anything placed under your flaccid to give am A stretch to the hang will help.

On my off days I still do jelq. During that month of solid ADS I also jelqed in the morning and evening, and even mid day when I had the time.
Not a large number of jelqs, maybe 100 each time.

Thats it.

Hope it helps.

Attack the soft tissue.slow and steady, I think that is the key and when your body has adjusted either pick up the pace a little or change the routine.
Gains will come.

Thanks, do you think if i get the Xsleeve it will be just as affective if I wear it as much as I can. I have yet to use an ADS, and maybe this is the problem.

Not sure since I know little about the xsleeve.
I do think that any ads that permits you to wear it for some extended time and provides a good pull is worth trying, as long as you don’t go numb.

I think that monkeybars vac hanger may be the best.


12/10, Bpel-7", Mseg-6", Beg-6.3"

07/11, Bpel-7.85, Mseg-6.5", Beg-6.9" My routine and pics here

Bruna,

Well, I am suprised sometime how much larger I am with the morning erection, and during sex sometimes. So its proving effective. I was slightly under average, but I would say that I am in average range now. So, its working, but I am not going to be a porn star anytime soon.

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