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The Newbie Routine should be reconsidered?

Haha damn! Couldn’t you post that for 2 months ago?, then I wouldn’t sit here with my destroyed dick… :)


Last edited by Maroshk : 05-28-2008 at .

LOL.

You know I PE’d for 1-2 years a few years back with no results. 5-7 days a week 1-2hrs a time plus hours of masturbating and my dick didnt grow at all.

I’m hoping this less is more approach works.

I will find out soon. 1 week down already and it feels/looks good.

DB, I have to agree with you on this. I think most guy’s would have better results with a “less is more” mentality to their workout. Starting light and slowly ramping up the routine as you find out how your penis reacts to the stress is the best way to maximize newbie gains. The newbie routine hasn’t been changed because it has been so successful for so many. I just think that many people would be better served starting with a lighter routine. I reached my goals without ever doing more than 100 jelqs or more than 15 minutes of manual stretching.

Have you seen ever seen this thread? This is sort of what you are after I think:

NEW newbie + advanced routine

Originally Posted by J123
You can gain doing PE in many ways. I have gained with gentle way and with hardcore way. I have to say, that the gentle way is much better. You get results safer and gains stay more likely as they are. That is why I feel, that there is need for a new standard routine, that can be used as a newbie routine and in a advanced stage.

Why it is better, than the current newbie routine? Because it takes full advantage about enlarging soft untrained penis and is more gentle routine and so safer.
It is called Linear Routine. <SNIP>

LINEAR ROUTINE for newbies

- Do 5 minutes warm up before and after workout and massage your penis little after you have warmed it.

- Stretching: I don’t recommend doing any stretching within the first week or two.
When you begin stretching do one 30 second pull to each direction (down, up, left, right, forward).
Within the first 2 months add max. 1 stretch (up, down..) per week, but if you feel, that it is not
necessary to add number of stretches, then don’t.

- Jelqing: Start from 10- 20 jelqs. At the beginning add for example 10 jelqs about every 3 workout, but there is no need to go over 50- 60 jelqs within the 2 or 3 weeks.

Beyond 50- 60 jelqs add 10- 20 jelqs in a week if necessary. If you seem to gain with a lower amount, then don’t increase the amount until you feel it is necessary.

Much more at link.

I did something similar to that as my newbie routine. (I didn’t actually find that thread until I was a month or so into a light routine).


Basically, I did the standard newbie routine for one workout. Way to many jelqs. OUCH!

I really lightened things up, doing no more than 90 jelqs a workout and took frequent days off. Like Pringles Can says, a “less is more” approach works well for some guys. I think it is certainly a great way to get conditioned to PE and learn about how your penis responds.


Last edited by sta-kool : 05-28-2008 at .

Originally Posted by sta-kool
Have you seen ever seen this thread? This is sort of what you are after I think:

NEW newbie + advanced routine

Much more at link.

I did something similar to that as my newbie routine. (I didn’t actually find that thread until I was a month or so into a light routine).


Basically, I did the standard newbie routine for one workout. Way to many jelqs. OUCH!

I really lightened things up, doing no more than 90 jelqs a workout and took frequent days off. Like Pringles Can says, a “less is more” approach works well for some guys. I think it is certainly a great way to get conditioned to PE and learn about how your penis responds.

In the link it says once done jelq leave penis alone.

Would it be good or bad or neutral to do 10,20 or 30mins edging post jelq if starting as a newbie?

I will begin this routine but since cutting out porn and masturbation have been doing 20-30mins edging instead. Is this to much stress? Cause I need some sexual outlet? Or best to do edging later on in bed or what? Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by Dark Blight

While I agree with the “everyone needs a personalized routine”-part, I still feel that the newbie-routine should be changed. People need a routine to start off with, to get accustomed with the whole PE-thing. After that they can go ahead and personalize the stuff. Everyone tells you to follow the newbie routine for at least three months, so the newbie routine still is an important part of the whole PE-experience. For this very reason I think that the newbie routine just isn’t something which you should keep in the same form, year after year. PE-knowledge expands and changes every week, so wouldn’t it be nice to reconsider the newbie routine every once in a while?

Yes I do think it needs to be opened up to more interpretation. More of a PE menu that guys can pick from. But the key is don’t over eat.

The hard part is getting people to realize that they shouldn’t hurt themselves. If it hurts , stop.

shunga


July 2007-BPEL 7.0 MidEG 6.0

Current BPEL 8.5 MidEG 6.3 Goal 8 NBPEL / 6.5 EG. Progress Pictures Progress Report My ADS

The original Newbie Routine was good general advice at the time, and it still isn’t bad. However, I agree it’s in need of a revamp.

How would you word Newbie Routine v2.0?

Maroshk: I hope it’s not a very serious injury, although ‘destroyed dick’ doesn’t sound very good. What is your injury?

Kingdong69: Man, that’s what I call determination! But yeah, definitely dick-overload there! 5-7 days a week for 1 or 2 hours is way too much, except for the ‘hours of masturbating’ though!

The ‘less is more’ approach seems to be already working for me. My flaccid hang has improved quite bit. It just hangs so much fuller! Also, I’ve gained a couple of millimeters in my first month (BPEL). :) It’s nothing to sell your right leg for, but it’s a start!

One and a half years ago I tried the Newbie Routine and that gave me zilch!

Pringles Can: While the Newbie Routine has been successful for many, there seems to be quite a significant group within this community who are saying that they’ve done a modified version of the Newbie Routine which gave them results. In most cases, this seems to be a lighter version of the routine.

It’s not the routine that is bad, it’s the staggering amount of jelqs and stretches that needs to be done. I mean, come on! Increasing jelqs to 30 minutes a day?? In my opinion, that’s insane!

My routine (which is heavily based on the Linear Newbie Routine) takes less than 30 minutes to complete. And for me, it’s yielding results.

Sta-kool: Yes, I ran into that routine about a year ago. It is so much better for a newbie dick! I’ve based my routine on the Linear Routine.

Shunga: Totally agree with you here! In fact, a warning message that tells people to stop immediately if they feel any pain would be a great idea. They wouldn’t have to make new vid’s either, just edit the original vid’s with a warning message (black background, big fat red letters) at the beginning of the vid. Or at least mention it in the explanation of the exercise.

Hobby: I wouldn’t call the routine plain out bad. It’s just the amounts that I’m having my doubts about. Yes, it was great advice at the time, but don’t forget that things like the LOT-theory were hot stuff two years ago (if I remember correctly). Now, it’s an abandoned theory.

Because theories and knowledge PE is subject to change, the Newbie Routine should be subject to change too. A reconsideration every once in a while would be a good start. How I would word the Newbie Routine V2.0? Well, I think that J123’s newbie routine would be a good starting point.

The routine needs to be a bit more open. Explaining the routine and everything is fine. A great enhancement would be, for example, a list with tips when people don’t see gains. This gives newbies more hope, and room to experiment for themselves a bit (within save limits). Something like this:

Q: HELP!! I do not seem to be gaining anything!

A: Every penis is different. What might work for others, might not work for you. Don’t be discouraged though! Here are some tips and tricks for you to try!

1: Use heat during your routine!

While a warm up is important, many members of the community attribute their gains to the application of constant heat. A great, constant heat source would be to do your routine in front of an Infrared-lamp. A 100-150 Watt lamp would be more than sufficient. A lamp can be bought for as low at $25, and they’re also great for applying heat to sore limbs, too! Another thing you could try would be to soak a washing cloth in hot water and wrapping the base of the penis with it. Keep the wrap applied for about 20-30 seconds, reapply if necessary. Apply the cloth after each set to keep the penis warm.

2: Use less pressure/force!

Pain during PE is a bad sign. While stretching, your dick shouldn’t be feeling like it’s gonna be ripped off from the body. Same goes for jelqing, you shouldn’t be having the feeling that you are squeezing your dick to death either. So what amount of pressure is enough?

Stretching: When you stretch, you should be feeling a stretch in your ligaments. This should not feel painful. If it does, you are stretching too hard.

Jelqing: Squeezing too hard on your newbie cock is not a wise thing to do. You could easily burst a vein because your dick isn’t used to excessive pressures (yet). In the beginning, the grip should be a little tighter than with masturbating. Feel the glans of your penis as you work your way up the shaft. Does it get engorged and hard? Good! This means that you are building up pressure and thus moving the blood into the shaft. With time, you can increase pressure, but light pressures are usually enough to give results.

3: Change the PE-days!

The 2 on, 1 off routine is recommended. If it isn’t working for you, you could try doing 1 day on, 1 day off instead. However, do NOT increase the amount of days that you do PE. Rest is very important, just like it is with weight lifting.

4: Watch your PI’s!

Explaining the whole PI-thing in the newbie routine would also be a great addition, because they seem to be generally accepted by just about everyone, and they really are good indicators for success or failure.


Last edited by Dark Blight : 05-29-2008 at .

Hehe, damn that 10-minute edition rule. ;) What I would like to add is that the routine should be more open to interpretation, yet still offer a strong base for newbies to build on. Also, it needs to be way more informative.


My Stats:

THEN: BPEL: 5.39 inch || EG Base: 4.33 inch || BPFL: 3.23 inch || EG Mid: 4.1 inch

NOW: BPEL: 5.59 inch || EG Base: 4.33 inch || BPFL: 3.23 inch || EG Mid: 4.1 inch

Now what about those people who have been doing the newbie routine or the heavier routines than linear routine.

Like if my dick is somehow used to more than light pressure then should i continue to apply the same amount of pressure or should I switch to lighter pressure?

And what about fowfers?

Should it be added to routine during resting or sleeping?

I tink it should be,but like other exercises it should also be lighter than usual.Becuase a lot of newbies are worried about their flaccid lengths and this is the best exercise for flaccid gains.

I did it last night but dont know m I doing it right or not cause it gave kinda burning sensation to my dick?So what the senior people say?

Originally Posted by kingdong69
In the link it says once done jelq leave penis alone.

Would it be good or bad or neutral to do 10,20 or 30mins edging post jelq if starting as a newbie?

How could I ever leave my penis alone? He deserves better treatment than that.

I always do at least 10 minutes edging post workout. I think it is really good to get a lot of fresh blood into your penis after a workout and get a hard erection. A number of guys say that is a good way to tell whether you have overdone your workout. Can’t get a good hard-on? You overdid it then, cut back on your workout.

To me it is like mimicking a nocturnal erection — here’s avocet8’s description of what nocturnal erections do (addressed to guys with ED):

Originally Posted by avocet8
One of the reasons that your sexual response was good for so long is that you had a healthy pattern of nocturnal erections, whether you were aware of them occurring or not. Normal men without ED have 4 - 6 erections a night during the REM stage of sleep, each lasting about a half hour. That accumulates to 2 - 3 hrs a night of hard-ons. That’s a lot of erection time. The purpose of having nocturnal erections is purely a “housekeeping” function. Blood pours in, cleans out the gunk and accumulated flotsam in your arteries and veins that occurs while you are flaccid. This newly-oxygenated blood also feeds penile tissue. When nocturnal erections stop, so does the “housekeeping” and the intense oxygenation you used to get during the night.

Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

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I also try to edge up to 30 mins on off days when I get the chance.

IMPORTANT, at least to me — I always use lots of lube, so we are talking about nice gentle strokes and grip.

For what it is worth I usually don’t ejaculate during those sessions, especially the post workout ones. The other ones I will ejaculate now and again — at least once a week, maybe more. I think you definitely need to ejaculate now and again to keep things healthy.

One of the cool things I have learned from PE is that you don’t have to ejaculate to have a really good time edging. I still feel “satisfied” and relaxed afterwards. I may feel more “energetic” after the sessions when I don’t ejaculate.

Some guys seem to find edging way too stressful and it lowers their EQ. For me I think it raises my EQ (as long as I don’t go over 30 minutes). I also think it helps cement gains. So you have to experiment and see what kind of guy you are.


Last edited by sta-kool : 05-29-2008 at .

Hey everybody,if I have been getting good PI’s (and no negative PI’s)for instance for the last three consecutive workouts,should I just try to workout everyday only to take a day off IF I start to see some negative PI’s,or should I take a day off regardless of the positive PI’s.I mean does that mean that I most likely need to do PE everyday?Just a bit confused here.Please help me clarify this information.Thank you.

Well… Negative PI’s are always a bad thing, so taking a day off when you have them is good. However, if I were you I would follow the standard 2 days on, 1 day off routine. PE everyday is really not needed for most newbies to see gains. Most of the time, PE-ing everyday is not recommended as far as I know.

O yeah, one more thing. I would appreciate it if you could keep these kind of questions limited to the newbie forum, open a new topic if you must, thanks! :)


My Stats:

THEN: BPEL: 5.39 inch || EG Base: 4.33 inch || BPFL: 3.23 inch || EG Mid: 4.1 inch

NOW: BPEL: 5.59 inch || EG Base: 4.33 inch || BPFL: 3.23 inch || EG Mid: 4.1 inch

Originally Posted by sta-kool
How could I ever leave my penis alone? He deserves better treatment than that.

I always do at least 10 minutes edging post workout. I think it is really good to get a lot of fresh blood into your penis after a workout and get a hard erection. A number of guys say that is a good way to tell whether you have overdone your workout. Can’t get a good hard-on? You overdid it then, cut back on your workout.

To me it is like mimicking a nocturnal erection — here’s avocet8’s description of what nocturnal erections do (addressed to guys with ED):Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

———————————
I also try to edge up to 30 mins on off days when I get the chance.

IMPORTANT, at least to me — I always use lots of lube, so we are talking about nice gentle strokes and grip.

For what it is worth I usually don’t ejaculate during those sessions, especially the post workout ones. The other ones I will ejaculate now and again — at least once a week, maybe more. I think you definitely need to ejaculate now and again to keep things healthy.

One of the cool things I have learned from PE is that you don’t have to ejaculate to have a really good time edging. I still feel “satisfied” and relaxed afterwards. I may feel more “energetic” after the sessions when I don’t ejaculate.

Some guys seem to find edging way too stressful and it lowers their EQ. For me I think it raises my EQ (as long as I don’t go over 30 minutes). I also think it helps cement gains. So you have to experiment and see what kind of guy you are.

I agree with what yo say. Unfotuantley my mastubation technique is dry, fast and hard which isn’t good. Over 10 years like that. I struggle to get hard with lube. Something I need to fix. Any tips anyone?

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