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The mystery of base girth gains

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Do you find this explanation convincing and/or clear?

I find it clear and convincing.

3945.88%

I find it unclear.

3136.47%

I find it clear but not convincing (explain please)

1517.65%
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Seem like the blackhole of PE theory to me.

As dickerschwanz has correctly observed, there is no mystery:

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
…like Xeno showed here with neat pics: Strain ellipse mechanics adjacent to clamps )

xeno


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Originally Posted by xenolith
As dickerschwanz has correctly observed, there is no mystery:

xeno

Do you feel big enough? Girth is 99% and length 95%…

Originally Posted by xenolith
As dickerschwanz has correctly observed, there is no mystery:

xeno

Well, I also said its probably not the only culprit ;) .
But for clamping its the the most logic explanation.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Well, I also said its probably not the only culprit ;) .
But for clamping its the the most logic explanation.


It applies to any circumferential compression.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I wonder if this effect plays a bigger role in jelqing than we realize. Maybe the pressure exerted at the grip as the hand moves is what causes much of the tunica deformation rather than simply the force of extra blood expanding the penis.

Originally Posted by djrobins

Do you feel big enough?

Sure; always have though; I didn’t start PE to get a bigger penis, I started PE to discover what was possible…haven’t gotten to that answer yet! :rooster:

Originally Posted by djrobins

Girth is 99% and length 95%…

What source is that from?


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

Originally Posted by xenolith
It applies to any circumferential compression.

xeno


Hanging gives no circumferential compression.

I think also you should check better your hypothesis because there is some consistency issue IMO.

Originally Posted by marinera
Hanging gives no circumferential compression.


Of course it does; it’s just restricted to discreet sectors of circumference; same mechanics are operant.

Originally Posted by marinera
…there is some consistency issue IMO.


By all means, point it out.

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

I think I will avoid wasting my time, sorry.

Originally Posted by marinera
Hanging gives no circumferential compression.

I think also you should check better your hypothesis because there is some consistency issue IMO.

Some of us believe the penis gains in all directions. So oddly you may chase length and gain gelirth.

Originally Posted by marinera
I think I will avoid wasting my time, sorry.


How unfortunate. Your prerogative of course, but realize it helps no one when you so choose.

Speaking for myself, apology accepted; can’t speak for the rest of the membership.

If you find yourself with a little more time in the future, I hope you’ll reconsider.

But I still Love you :) ; if you’re a christian, please accept my hope for you to have a very merry christmas!

xeno


originally: 6.5" BPEL x 5.0" EG (ms); currently: 9.825" BPEL x 6.825" EG (ms)

Hidden details: Finding xeno: a penis tale; Some photos: Tiger

Tell me, o monks; what cannot be achieved through efforts. - Siddhartha Gautama

There are some possiblities for base girth gains. Its not a single reason.
I can clearly pull on my inner penis and many hangers clearly feel it.

I own a Bathmate and did stretches with it which clearly pulls on inner tissues and if done for some sets and days leads to soreness that is felt at the inside penis called the infrapubic penis( penis behind the pubic bone).
Depending on the angle you can hit the bulb penis which is where the CS is attached inside or the crus penis where the CC is attached inside. Note that the CC effectivly is splitting into two trapezius like parts.
Now how much you can stretch and pull that inner tissue is questionable. It has many attachment points right to the bones by ligaments/collageosue.
Both structures are also covered by the BC muscle(CS) and IC muscle(CC).

Hitting this tissue is possible and stretching and pulling on it will create a reaction. Hangers reported that they can feel the IC outside the pubic bone. To feel the IC muscle and its contractions I have to dig deeper into my “inner penis”. So pulling that muscle out will surely increase base girth.

The Tunica/bucks fascia could be hit by that too.

From my experiments with bathmate stretches its easier to to hit the bulb of the penis as by trying to hit the crus(CC and IC msucle) the ligaments are taking much of the stretch.
But it appears to me that I can also create inner soreness of the IC/CC portion at the crus penis with the bathmate.. Its a hard to describe feeling as if tunica/fascia/cc/IC seperate in a way.

Some hangers on bibs forum who are very methodical in hitting all angles seem to hit the crus/IC muscle. (RB’s 2009 thread on these forums and his discussion with BIB is a good example)

Anyway these endeavours with the bathmate im not following right now intensly as they create too much discoloration.

You are right it was rude. What I meant is that explaining why I am not convinced will require just too much time, where you can find the issue by yourself I think, reading with a critique eye. By the way, have you ever heard of vac-hanging? People gets girth gains at the base with that. And why people don’t get gains mostly at the base when jelqing? Strange thought, I know.

The post linked has dead links inside, too bad; this makes the post hard to understand, at least for me.

Merry Christmas to you also Xeno, although I would define myself as an agnostic.

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