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The mystery of base girth gains

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Nothing to be sorry about, buddy.

You explanations are good and full of info but too complicated..too much words and long sentences imho ;)

I try to get the bigger picture of what you are saying cause understanding every single sentence would take some more time to think about ;)

and its not a problem of your english . Its good ;)

Some short notes at the end would maybe help some..

IMHO ;)

Marinera I think the body reacts to the stress put opon it.
If there is a perceived weakness towards some outside force or a simple difference to the circumstances the body is in then it tries to adapt.
If a clamp constricts a certain point at the base of the penis then the body will try to adapt to this in order to maintain its supposed function.
My logic says the body doesnt like the clamp and tries to find an answer to the clamp through toughening the stuff at that area.
This means for example he needs to build stronger and thicker veins to carry all the blood around the clamp.
->The tougher veins are probably more needed behind the clamp in direction of the body then in front of it.
All other stuff that is there is affected in some way too.

Every part of the penis that is further away from the clamp experiences a different impact.
The head for example is more balooned while clamping rather then constricted.

With hanging I think the force and point with the greatest impact is the base where it is attached to the body.
The body maybe tries to avoid this perceived deattachment in thickening the base.

Practicly this could mean that double,multi clamping may be beneficial for girth all over the dick.
Tough few guys did it but I think read several times already about it(I dont know any details but I think kingsnake over at MOS(banned here, but real pics),who gained girth with a very long dick, does double clamps too)
edit: and look what I stumble upon 1 mintue later: Steelfire - Anyone else having trouble with erect clamping? Any advice?

It makes one also think about how clamping under different conditions may help to have a broader possibility of gains.


Last edited by dickerschwanz : 03-31-2012 at .

Thanks for your input, Dickerschwanz. The problem here is that the penis can’t become bigger through becoming thicker. Tunica albuginea is about 1 mm thick, so it can’t really add much to girth becoming thicker; beside that, the thicker, the harder to expand. Corpora cavernosa either can’t add much by themselves: their function is to expand TA - so again, becoming bigger wouldn’t add girth per se. Veins have only the function to carry blood - again they wouldn’t add girth becoming bigger; beside that, you can see veins when they enlarge, the girt gains we are speaking here are something different - a ‘meaty’ girth gain.

That’s why I took the time to explain my thought in details: base girth gains aren’t such a simple things to explain like growing your bicep.

As a side note, multiple clamping has always lead to pretty much the same (or worse) results than single clamps.

Kingsnake is Sayian22? He said he gained about nothing through clamping, on this forum, if my memory isn’t betraying me.

Great thread!

I noticed the greatest base girth growth from swinging weights with a Bib hanger and secondly from heavy tension manual stretching from various angles with a vacADS. I have a suspicion that I may have experienced growth spurts particularly during times where I took cialis and would get semi-erect accidentally while swinging weights or stretching. Sparkyx noticed something similar, I believe.

Marinera, I’m curious about your opinion on the proportion of CC/CS growth in reported base girth gains? I’ve noticed most of my base girth growth seems to be CS growth and ligament thickening (not CC widening). Do you have a view for why this could be?

Uhm. Ligaments, that should be easy: ligs can undergo hypertrophy. CS growth, that seems a bit harder to explain. My proposed mechanism should lead to mostly widening of the penis, due to the enlarged tunica. Is that common to have a CS base growth? I have CS growth but not at all at the base.

Oh, and about ligs: hypertophy due to hanging should be obvious to explain. Are you speaking of ligs growth through clamping?

Originally Posted by marinera
Uhm. Ligaments, that should be easy: ligs can undergo hypertrophy. CS growth, that seems a bit harder to explain. My proposed mechanism should lead to mostly widening of the penis, due to the enlarged tunica. Is that common to have a CS base growth? I have CS growth but not at all at the base.

Yes, I mean that the ligament hypertrophy is the main component in the widening of the base for me.

I am not sure if it is common as I have only recently begun to take note of CS/CC growth distributions. For me, I have experienced CS growth considerably throughout but most prominently at and just below the base. While I have experienced CC growth (from clamping and to a lesser degree jelqing), I have experienced much less at the base.

Edit: About ligs - I was just identifying this as the hypertrophy that has caused a widening of the base for me (as CC growth has not occurred and base has widened and deepened) - it occurred through hanging and swinging weights and seems clear. I was just asking about your thoughts on causes for CS vs. CC growth.

Ok. CC growth, that means tunica growth actually, I suppose - tunica envelops CC, so you can’t notice a wider penis due to bigger CC directly, that’s the circular tunica becoming longer and CC can expand more.

About CS, I can make two hypothesis. First one, is that there could be fluid accumulations. The second, is that, if you Kegel while clamped, you strengthen the BC muscle. This could cause an higher pressure in the CS, leading to a more pronounced protrusion. I’m making this hypothesis basing on this:
The Corpus Spongiosum Penis Pressure and External Penile Muscle Activity in the Goat During Coitus

SIDNEY D. BECKETT,
RAM C. PUROHIT and
TED M. REYNOLDS

needle-tipped catheter was implanted in the corpus spongiosum penis (CSP) of mature male goats to determine the pressure during coitus. Electromyographic (EMG) electrodes were also implanted in the ischiocavernosus (IC) muscles and bulbospongiosus (BS) muscles to monitor their activity. During coitus the mean peak CSP pressure was 1031 mm Hg and this peak occurred during the ejaculatory thrust immediately after the peak corpus cavernosum penis pressure. Anesthesia of the BS muscles significantly reduced the peak CSP pressures of the coital period; however, it did not change the normal, precoital, and postcoital pressures. The EMG activity of the BS muscles was in phase with CSP pressure peaks. “
http://www.biolreprod.org/content/12/2/289

Analogously:
Corpus spongiosum penis pressure and perineal muscle activity during reflexive erections in the rat

M. H. Schmidt,
J. L. Valatx,
K. Sakai,
G. Debilly, and
M. Jouvet
………
Reflexive erectile events were systematically associated with an increase in baseline CSP pressure. Glans erections were associated with dramatic suprasystolic CSP pressure peaks concurrent with BS muscle bursts. Indeed, measures of CSP pressure and BS EMG activity were found to vary significantly with the intensity of glans erection. Flips of the penile body, however, involved small CSP pressure increases and IC bursts. These data demonstrate for the first time that both CSP pressures and perineal muscle activity vary significantly with the intensity of penile erection. “
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/conte…4/R904.abstract

If this is true for humans too, than basically clamping leads to stronger erections, which could cause an expansion in girth due to the higher pressure in CS. What you do think about?

Originally Posted by marinera
If this is true for humans too, than basically clamping leads to stronger erections, which could cause an expansion in girth due to the higher pressure in CS. What you do think about?

Very interesting post. I believe this has occurred with me through flexing the muscle while pumping, and to a lesser degree while clamping, however I can distinguish the difference in my ability to flex the CS from the difference in its size, and the difference in size of the CS near the base is visible when not erect also.

I am suspicious that clamping gains are related to a person’s ability to engorge the CS fully while clamped - i.e. that most of those gains occur in the CS. Hence, it was interesting that swinging weights seems to have built up the CS particularly also, though mostly around the base.

It is an intersting and strange phenomenon. Thanks for reporting that LV, could be interesting to know if the same happened to other hangers.

Perhaps that is why jelqing works.

The ring created by the finger and thumb provides compression like a clamp. Then as the ring moves, expansion follows immediately after the compression.


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That’s a very interesting thought, Kdong.

Originally Posted by kdong
Perhaps that is why jelqing works.

The ring created by the finger and thumb provides compression like a clamp. Then as the ring moves, expansion follows immediately after the compression.


Yes, very interesting.

That is what I was getting at earlier when I mumbled:

Originally Posted by cantlook
… the overall stress on the TA may be greater when moving from a compressed state to a blood filled state than it is from a blood filled state to a clamped or pumped state?

By “pumped or clamped state” I meant beyond normal expansion.

Like squeezing a sponge, you get more or a range of movement/action from flattening it and letting it resume its shape than you would from trying to expand it from its normal shape.


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Marinera you might find reading up on vacuum compression therapy interesting if you haven’t done so already, may be relevant to this discussion.

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