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The Karamojong became impotent (erectile dysf.) cause of ADS - what are the ADSrisks?

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The Karamojong became impotent (erectile dysf.) cause of ADS - what are the ADSrisks?

A few weeks ago i read in some thread about the Karamojong.
I already knew them for their big penises (about 40 cm) but there i heard the first time that they became IMPOTENT (erectile dysfunction).
They couldnt make love anymore.

Does anyone here know more about it?
DId they lose their ability because of wearing an ADS too long (at a single a day)?Or Was the technique they used to fix the weights too harmful? Or were their penises too long too get enough blood in?

Correctly said they were hanging all day but this is also an AllDayStretch…

I dont want to risk anything, i am wearing an ADS 7 hours a day right now….


My goal: from 11.9 cm NBPEL to 18 cm NBPEL (~7 ") ...now or never...!!!! after 5 weeks(and a long break): 12.5 cm NBPEL

The Karamajong pastoralist’s occupy a great part of north eastern Uganda and north western Kenya, in East Africa. They have had a long penis lengthening culture, mainly through hanging device with some weights from there penis and similarly they have elongated ears too through piercing and hanging heavy ornaments from them, I am not sure but I would say that some of them might have incurred injuries though this practice whilst some succeeded.

Since their populations continue growing we could be talking about some small percentage incurring injuries. This people are traditional pastoralist’s living in very harsh semi-arid environments which could equally contribute to there sexual functioning.


You must always remain patient as growth comes with time

I heard this too and questioned it. Most said it was probably from injury. I have seen photos of painful looking noose devices and large weights. I doubt they have all the medical info that people have researched here, tissue death etc. I wonder how much blood is needed to fill 40cm 15 3/4”.


The "average size" is usually over-estimated. Small guys don't take part in surveys and big guys jump at the chance.

Girl claims she had a huge ex? Stick a spider in the bathroom or a mouse in the kitchen and when she comes out screaming ask her how big the spider/mouse was...

does no one know anything?


My goal: from 11.9 cm NBPEL to 18 cm NBPEL (~7 ") ...now or never...!!!! after 5 weeks(and a long break): 12.5 cm NBPEL

A search of the Internet brought up hundreds of sites that talk about the Karamojong people, their warriors, their cattle raids, their language and culture. Not a single one talks about stretching their penises. The only places where this group and penis stretching are mentioned together are on penis enlargement sites (and one “sexual records” site). Perhaps there’s nothing to it. A myth?

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Originally posted by westla90069

A search of the Internet brought up hundreds of sites that talk about the Karamojong people, their warriors, their cattle raids, their language and culture. Not a single one talks about stretching their penises. The only places where this group and penis stretching are mentioned together are on penis enlargement sites (and one “sexual records” site). Perhaps there’s nothing to it. A myth?

Yes, I’ve looked them up also - using several different spellings & several different search engines. I’ve only found the info you’ve found. Makes me suspicious as well. It is possible that they were picked out because of the ear stretching thing, then mythically attributed with such huge dongs. Or, there’s a slim chance it’s true, but how would “mainstream” web sites even refer to it?

I do know one thing: the “record” penis was like 13.5”, therefore you could probably forget such ridiculous stories of 15-18” dongs.

The world recored only shows the biggest guy that was actually willing for a doctor to measure his dick for records. There are bound to be guys much larger out there that haven’t been recorded. They are in the wild, hundreds of miles from any doctors, never mind doctors who are interested in measuring their dicks for scientific records.

Someone is going to have to go to Sudan or Uganda to find these so called men. It is the only way to find out if it is actually true about jelqing and stretching originations. I mean the exercising your dick idea had to come from somewhere. Someone had to have been the forefathers of these exercises. Which is the oldest dating penis enlargment exercise programme in literature or on the web? Where did they get their ideas from? So many questions and no answers. It feels like these exercises just fell out of the sky on us. Someone has to go to Sudan or Uganda and try tracking down these tribesmen with a hired interpreter. And take a camcorder to document any findings for proof.

All the literature I have on it could well be made up. It refers to some children in Sudan being sent to something called the “mehbil”, which is supposedly a gym/steam bath/health club, where an attendant uses jelqing of some kind or rubbing of the penis of the young boys in some way. It says the boy will never be introduced to the harsher phallic culture called “quebdz” which supposedly means “seizing and squeezing of the penis”. The literature refers to somebody called Mr. Bernhard Stern who is said to have documented or commented on the children rubbing their penis “long and energetically to increase it’s size and strengthen it” A mention to a Sir Richard Burton also, who is said to have documented the larger size of african arabs.

I did a search with the key words I mentioned, but haven’t come up with anything other than repeated information which I already have in this panflet. Someone needs to go to Sudan and sort this out once and for all and document tribesmen doing these exercises or discussing it whilst being translated by an interpreter, all on camcorder, in exchange for gifts to the tribesmen, or something of this nature.


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.


Last edited by Gottagrow : 10-31-2003 at .

This is a great idea gottagrow this camcorder tape could be also used in television.
Maybe the TV will start action if we tell them about it…..maybe they send a team out there?

In the net are some pics of these karamojong (the one you will know is the black man with a knot in his giant penis)


My goal: from 11.9 cm NBPEL to 18 cm NBPEL (~7 ") ...now or never...!!!! after 5 weeks(and a long break): 12.5 cm NBPEL

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Originally posted by Gottagrow
It feels like these exercises just fell out of the sky on us.

It sure does. In more than one sense. Thank you, who ever you are…


"Be aware that there are several schools of thought here as well. Some seem to go with the hard and heavy approach. The sessions are brutal. You can hear them talking to their dick: You better grow mofo or I will punish you even harder tomorrow! Others seem to favor a more tender approach. Always listening to what their member is saying while massaging it gently and singing to it with a soft voice. If it is moody and not happy with new behavior, they always listen and are very understanding."

I can smell the spirit of a great adventurer, Gottagrow. It’s like tracing the source of the river Niger by this British adventurer (forgot his name but read this historical novel by T.C. Boyle named “Water Music” - great story btw). Jeez, am I off topic today :o Anyway, imagine us putting together the ancient large dick expedition, packing our containers with measure tapes, infrared detectors to spot the heat emitting monster penises hiding in the depth of the jungle :)


...not buried yet, another 5" ahead!

KPR 0.072 @ Dec. 4, 2003

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Originally posted by RisingUpTo7

In the net are some pics of these karamojong (the one you will know is the black man with a knot in his giant penis)

Nope. Thunder already said the pic is a fake - it was done by Tom Hubbard.

I once saw a TV documentary on these people, years back. It did not talk much about their penis practices, but I do recall seeing several shots of men with weights hanging on their penises. It might have been on some foreign TV station, or in the US, I can’t remember. But I do know there is some film record somewhere.

They probably don’t practice anymore. Some well-meaning humanitarian or missionary has probably pointed out to them that 1) doctors have determined that you can’t make your penis larger without surgery, and 2) that it is a sin.

Still, as far as an expedition, I’m game. Love that kind of thing, even if it is inland. Even have a decent digital video camera. Perhaps they do still hang, or some old guy remembers when they did. Imagine sharing techniques and methods by the campfire. What would they think of my BIB? I can imagine the Discovery Channel ads…


"In an honest Service there is thin Commons, low Wages, and hard labour; in this (Piracy), Plenty and Society, Pleasure and Ease, Liberty and Power; and who would not balance Creditor on this side when all the Hazard that is run for it, at worst, is only a sour Look or two at choaking. No, A merry Life and a short one, shall be my Motto."--Bartholomew Roberts

The Turkana, are people of the same origin as the karamajong but residing in Kenya Whilst the boundaries seperate them from their Uganda Karamajong conterparts, there treditions are very similar.

From the research article below the Karamajong could already have had natural massive genitalia like there neigbours and fellow nilotics thhe Turkana. As this was a way of being recognised and being attractive to the female I believe this people must have devised ways of making there units even bigger to survive in the competitive market place, check the article below.

The Turkana tribe of Northern Kenya has, after a study of 34 racial groups around the world, been shown in a recent American study to be the oldest society of humans so far to be traced by DNA tests. The Turkana do not circumcise and traditionally went around stark naked all their lives. I do not know of any African tribe which went “buck” naked in it’s culture history and which did circumcise. Those that I know of who circumcise at least have rudimentary garments to cover their genitals. What needs to be explored is why? There is a clue: the Turkana consider a man to be naked only if the foreskin is retracted - it is the embarrassing counterpart of having one’s fly undone in public! When the penis is flaccid but the glans covered, a person is not “naked”. If one of the functions of the glans penis is, as I suspect from simian anatomy and sexual behavior, a sexual signaling function, the circumcising tribes would require coverings for the exposed glans - and in anthropology, covered peoples tend to look upon the naked as “backwards” - this notion of “backwardness” is not confined to Eurocentric views, but found among tribal peoples themselves. The element of “cultural pride” then comes into a tribe continuing with the practice of circumcision.

The Turkana, like certain African tribes, are noted for massive genitalia and long foreskins, such that one may suspect sexual selection for these features has taken place in evolution among these very ancient people - why? Because Turkana women widely and openly admire the men with the biggest genitalia and the non-exposure of the glans among naked peoples is facilitated by a longer foreskin. Note that among the Turkana, as with other African tribes of Nilotic origin, the flaccid penis is actually carried at “half-erect” angle in many cases - to separate true sexual excitement from this normal condition in many Turkana males, a long prepuce is helpful. Those without might have been accused of rudeness, shunned by jealous males and subject to other cultural pressures that over a long period of social evolution might have made for selection of longer foreskins to go along with bigger, semi-erect genitalia. These thoughts were as a result of reading Stephen Jay Gould, who points out that in Darwinian terms we must differentiate between wholly natural selection and sexual selection - only by such a means can we hope to answer such obvious questions as: Why do Maasai women have cone-shaped breasts? Why are Nordics large in the hip? Why do Oriental women have generally small breasts? etc - because the problem is that from a strictly Darwinian point of view, there is no “advantage” whatsoever that can be determined from evolving cone-shaped breasts. But then, when we look at an animal such as the African widow bird with it’s absurd long tail it grows to attract females, and we do experiments to show that the females actually do the sexual selection from males with larger and longer tails, then we see an example of sexual selection that accounts for an otherwise useless, even disadvantageous (from a purely physical viewpoint) male widow-bird appendage.

http://www.bluegecko.org/kenya/trib…es-circlist.htm


You must always remain patient as growth comes with time

Oh, and if they still are hanging, and if 7 is right and they are impotent, I imagine the action there could be pretty good…


"In an honest Service there is thin Commons, low Wages, and hard labour; in this (Piracy), Plenty and Society, Pleasure and Ease, Liberty and Power; and who would not balance Creditor on this side when all the Hazard that is run for it, at worst, is only a sour Look or two at choaking. No, A merry Life and a short one, shall be my Motto."--Bartholomew Roberts

Great contribution, mrlongo!


...not buried yet, another 5" ahead!

KPR 0.072 @ Dec. 4, 2003

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