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The incredible resistance of the public to believe in PE

I completely agree, that the quick results scams have given PE a bad reputation. Like weight loss and physical fitness, it takes both care and commitment to get results safely, there is no free lunch.

Further since it is too controversial topic too many “legitimate” researchers can’t or won’t even approach it, which is a shame but gives us an edge over the non believers.

Originally Posted by sailboatracer

Like weight loss and physical fitness, it takes both care and commitment to get results safely, there is no free lunch.

Indeed, and you only need to take a glance out there and see all the bogus weight-loss scam products, diets, or 5 minute workout etc. If fat-loss was not so well known and common, I think it would also be thought impossible as PE. PE also has all the hype of pills and bullshit creams that cloud the issue of what really works just like how much confusion has been created for simple weight-loss. But just like losing weight, with the right exercise and determination PE is possible.


:flame: "If you build it, they will cum."

Redwood\'s Progress Report/Routines Thread.

we don't want them to believe!

forget trying to convince people! we don’t WANT other guys to compete with us! we’ll be that much bigger relative to them.

Gentlemen,

Here’s a slightly different twist/perspective to comments as posted so far -

I tried PE once a couple of years ago and it didn’t ‘seem’ to work for me. However, I was on one of those other ‘paid’ sites (caveat emptor) and, frankly jelqued myself dang near into oblivion. Failure aside, I really believed PE worked or should work (even for me) so I kept looking.

My point is simply this - I don’t believe we/you will have to worry any time too soon about the population of 8x6-r’s exploding. Why? Persistence or the lack thereof. Most people (IMO) or sooooo into instant gratification that they do not have the staying power, patience, or pain tolerance to stick it out. Many of the exceptions to that (and exceptional people (again IMO)) are ALREADY on this forum and they either are or some day will be in that 8x6+ club.

Thunder’s group is getting to ‘Critical Mass’ - that is, even for the slow gainers or the folks like me that stumbled in the past, the MEANINGFUL information that will constitute one (or, more likely many) breakthrough(s) either already exists buried in the many threads here or that missing information will soon be known - it’s just a matter of time, persistence, and sharing. That’s what’s so cool about this forum.

Still, even if all of the information and techniques for all tissue types were known and scattered throughout these threads, how many people would have the patience and take the time to spend the hundreds of hours reading through dozens of threads (like I and you all have) to find those gems? Only the ones that belong here. In other words, you can’t join unless you are already a member of the club.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


Then - BPEL 5.9, EG 5.2 - Now: BPEL 7.2, EG 5.6 Listen woman, "Don't bitch at me for burning the candle at both ends - just get me some more wax!"

It doesn’t work it’s dangerous


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by MrTips
Still, even if all of the information and techniques for all tissue types were known and scattered throughout these threads, how many people would have the patience and take the time to spend the hundreds of hours reading through dozens of threads (like I and you all have) to find those gems? Only the ones that belong here. In other words, you can’t join unless you are already a member of the club.

Woooah, like total mindfuck dude. (:

Excellent post MrTips.

Personally I can explain the publics overall opinion easily. Most men are to afraid to try PE, their member is important to them and they do not want to risk it, the existing public comments on it’s dangers reinforce this idea over and over again. Because they are to afraid to do it, men also say it’s not possible, because they do not want other men to try it and have success leaving them worse off overall then before. The idea that if I’m to afraid to, ill convince you not to either so we are even. Women are brought up to not express such opinions openly and try to convince themselves size doesn’t matter to make both themselves and fellow man feel better. We here at thunders are the risk takers, we are the pioneers willing to try despite others for above reasons saying not to. However I contribute to the above notions myself but not because I believe them. PE is working so far for me. But why should I tell others about it? One nobody will believe me and I will be made fun of. Also even if they did if everyone had a large penis then people would have to pe just to keep up rather then get ahead, whats the point of that? I believe pe is fine where it is now, done by a select few who have the courage and brains to try something despite the overwhelming critics.

MrTips,

Alms for the poor! Your description of almost jelqing yourself into oblivion sounds a lot like me…What did you do to finally see some gains…Just a tip would be great….Ltr,….


Start 030104 EBPL: 6.25" EG : 5.6" Mid LOT : 7:30 GOAL: 0.25 in any direction...."I'm not picky"- length would be nice "GIVE ME A %&#'N INCH OR GIVE ME DEATH"

Every man that has had a negative comment about his manhood, deserves PE!. And all it’s benefits.

Originally Posted by Russell4
MrTips,

Alms for the poor! Your description of almost jelqing yourself into oblivion sounds a lot like me…What did you do to finally see some gains…Just a tip would be great….Ltr,….

Russ,

I use a combination of three elements (stretch, heat, & pump):

1) I stretch under heat in an Andro stretcher
2) Then I pump following Avocet8’s protocol
3) Then I stretch some more under heat
4) Then I keep stretching but without heat
5) In the evening I stretch one last time with heat
6) Finish the day with a pumping session
7) Wrap the engorged package with a magnetic wrist strap and call it a day

Hope this Helps - if you need more details let me know.

All the Best,

MrTiPS


Then - BPEL 5.9, EG 5.2 - Now: BPEL 7.2, EG 5.6 Listen woman, "Don't bitch at me for burning the candle at both ends - just get me some more wax!"

If someone needs PE he will find it, one way or another.

If the public starts to believe in PE, whats the point of having bigger dick, when everyone else haves em too ….


Looking to be a kiwi.

Originally Posted by MrTips
Thunder’s group is getting to ‘Critical Mass’ - that is, even for the slow gainers or the folks like me that stumbled in the past, the MEANINGFUL information that will constitute one (or, more likely many) breakthrough(s) either already exists buried in the many threads here or that missing information will soon be known - it’s just a matter of time, persistence, and sharing. That’s what’s so cool about this forum.

MrTips,

In my limited experience, yours is one of the most introspective posts I’ve read on this forum.

Though there are many successes here at Thunder’s, we still read about a few who are frustrated at gaining. Wouldn’t it be a great breakthrough if some brilliant soul could distill all the information contained at Thunder’s into the perfect formula that improved the results for everyone? I.E., high LOT — do this, low LOT — do that; apply heat, apply ice; more rest, less rest; etc. Or, are these are the dreams of a newbie?


Move a little closer, Honey.

I've got a big prick for you.

Not to say that I wasn’t sceptical to begin with… I also did a “trial period” to see if natural PE worked before taking it any further. Luckily for me, I gained noticeable size within weeks, so I was sold.

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