The Days of Our Jelqs?

Hello, it’s REN again,

I was reading a great post on PEing and body building that was originally written by THERMO? and then posted by UNCUT4BIG? But it got me rethinking days on and off again. Here’s the post:

Different approach to PE and its workouts; READ THIS!!

In this post, there is a great case made for watching diet and over training when trying to get good gains. But then he goes on to say that he works a 6 day on, 1 day off routine and I wondered "why go through all that trouble of explaining what to avoid, how to get more for less, and then go on to use a 6 straight day routine?" He must have a reason, do we typically heal that fast?

Even if he is using a highly consolidated 15-30 minute routine that may change one day to the next and only stretches a few days a week. Why not go every other day? If the workouts are that good, wouldn’t a day off after each one make more sense? I wish he was here to ask.

I wonder why THERMO can cite the body builders who can do only 2, maybe 3, workouts a week and make incredible leaps and bounds in gains but not take the same work logic to the PE routine. Or did he, and others, try it already and it didn’t work?

So, what are the good arguments FOR having MORE days off. Has anyone made good gains on a highly consolidated routine as small as 3 or 4 days a week, with no more work than every other day?

Yeah that’s a great thread, and I agree with girth you need a lot of time off to grow but I feel with length you have to push it because your stretching.

Also thermo was a juice monster so that adds to the equation

When building muscle, it is more of a break it down and build it back bigger kind of thing. And for it to work efficiently, an every other day, or every third day lift schedule is the most efficient to let the muscle rebuild before you break it down again.

PE does not involve muscle tissue and it works more on the principle of stretching and expansion. For the increases to take hold the stretched and expanded tissues must repeatedly be re-stretched and re-expanded for them to take on a new tissue memory of a larger size. This is best accomplished on more of a daily basis with fewer days off. More days off would allow the tissue to return to it’s original memory size.

Yeah, what he said. ^

Might I add though that I think jelqing and other engorgement exercises would be beneficial to do every day, but perhaps intense stretches and hanging should be broken up. This is because you are stretching the ligaments, which of course can be seriously damaged and take very long to heal as such. A damaged lig could screw you up big time, so it’s probably good to give them a break.

When people talk about working out too much I usually take that with a strong grain of salt. I’m not always sure if they really truly, fully understand what they are saying. For example, when I was in my Army basic training, we worked out 2 or 3 times a day (formally) and then did god knows what physical tasks for the rest of the day (drill sergeants are creative and their job is to break you down “to build you up”).

Anyways, in 9 hellish weeks, I gained muscle weight and lost fat even though I was over-trained, under-slept and eating as much CRAP food as I could get my hands on (probably well over 4,000 maybe even 5,000 crappy calories a day). It’s not the preferred method and is definitely not optimal weight training, but it works (for a time).

To me, that means that even though JoeShmoeXXX gets 3 inches in 3 months with a 6-1 or a 5-2 pattern, it still may not be optimal. It may just work “for a time”, for whatever reason, but mainly because he did something that most people don’t do. He jelqed religiously! Or was hanging with uncommon vigor and/or regularity.

The whole comparison between muscles and penis tissues doesn’t bother me at all because I know what tissues are the same and which are not. What processes would be similar and which wouldn’t. In all my time considering PE and working with it’s techniques and theory, I’ve never had the illusion that working out my penis is THAT MUCH like working out a muscle.

I personally think that stretched tissues may recover quicker and expand/stretch faster with the rest. Why wouldn’t it? Will it shrink in that extra day, or will it not properly expand? More or less than if it was being constantly restressed, day after day?

200 of the cutest gymnasts with the most flexible limbs in the world, still couldn’t convince me that they couldn’t have been a lot more efficient with their stretching routines. And spared themselves a lot of physical discomforts and challenges.

Last but not least, I know that we can agree on this: different people with the same workout will get different results for different reasons. But boy ‘o boy it’s fun to watch, play with and think about, isn’t it?